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Thread Number Two
Gibson's messages spark new controversy
By INDERIA SAUNDERS, Guardian Staff Reporter
inderia@nasguard.com
Telephone messages left by the former Immigration Minister, Shane Gibson, on the voicemail of the late Playboy playmate Anna Nicole Smith caused a minor stir Monday when they surfaced in the international media.
On the heels of his resignation after photos of Smith and himself appeared in the local and international media, Gibson has once again captured headlines in the international media after December phone messages by Gibson left on Smith's California voicemail materialized on the web site www.TMZ.com yesterday.
The web site alleged that the link to the phone messages, which is provided on the site, shows how Gibson called Smith seven times from 15 to 17 December and left six messages for her to return his calls.
According to TMZ.com, one call was left at 9:05 Pacific standard time on Smith's voicemail, which would have made it 12:05 am in the Bahamas.
The Guardian was able to access the website and listened to the messages. All they showed was that the calls were made and that Mr Gibson identified himself, indicated the local time in Nassau and asked Ms Smith to call him back. There was no suggestion in any of the messages of anything of a sexual, or improper nature. The messages were all very brief.
There was some speculation that the website obtained the messages from the Royal Bahamas Police Force (RBPF) yesterday, but this seemed unlikely as the messages were left on a machine at Smith's California address. However, Chief Superintendent Hulan Hanna said that as the official spokesperson for the police department, he had not spoken to any persons regarding the matter, and no other officer had been authorized to do so.
"Whatever assertions being made have absolutely nothing to do with the Royal Bahamas Police Force," Mr Hanna said. "Consistent with the way investigations are conducted in this jurisdiction the Royal Bahamas Police Force will not conduct public inquiry into this or any other investigations."
He added that even though no one in particular had been making demands, he wanted the public and all persons concerned to know that while in other jurisdictions law enforcement may be more liberal about investigations local jurisprudence did not allow such leverage.
"We understand that the media has a need to know because of the role the media plays in the dissemination of news and information and where we can help we will do that," Mr Hanna said. "However, the Police have remained faithful to the law and to the conventions that govern investigations in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas."
He mentioned that he could not speculate on how the web site obtained the phone messages, explaining that in the world of policing there was no room for speculating, only "black and white".
The release of Anna Nicole Smith's autopsy results will now have to wait another two weeks as new evidence in the case may change the medical examiner's earlier conclusion.
According to media reports, Broward County Medical Examiner Joshua Perper has reportedly said that he has to evaluate new evidence "which might change" his earlier unreported conclusion of what caused Smith's death.
Reports also indicate that Smith's computer will be included in the evidence that Perper will review before making a decision. Florida police have reportedly said they are seeking additional information in the case, however, they may need a court order to obtain this information.
http://www.thenassauguardian.net/national_local/316507202326810.php
I can't find that pic again darn it. I grabbed it because he did look like a maniac, kind of the Jack Nicholson, "Heeeere's Johnny"
I was searching Millstein and the baby this morning to see if anything was going on in the Bahamas. I think I was in Google blogs??
I was just trying again, didn't find it but found this page which is a really good history on ANS up to the present minus things we've come up with. But a good overall synopsis anyway.
http://tvhottie.com/?p=24
I do recall the story about Virgie going to see her in the hospital and that ANS didn't remember even seeing her there, but for the life of me, I don't remember when that was.
I ran across a website the other day that mentioned the liposection and Virgie visiting her. It also has some GREAT photos that I don't think we've seen before. Here it is.
Crap, the tv has been taken control of. But...I can see if it's on in the bedroom. Thanks!
Okay, that makes sense.
HK$ has not proven in a court of law, US or the Bahamas that he is who he says he is. He has not provided bona fide documentation, probated in a court of law permitting him to hold US citizen Dannielyn hostage, in a foreign country, without supervision and in the absence of an appointed guardian/caretaker.
At this point in time, the only certified next-of-kin is Vergie Arthur. What the hell is her attorney doing?
>>>I'm lost.....they need Dannilynns DNA....not HKSs' DNA. Opri totally confuses me..>>>
I *think* the purpose behind this is that they want to get that 'presumed' father thing off the table. If they can PROVE that HKS isn't Dannielynn's father, than he loses rights and custody of the baby. Why it's easier to get that done legally, than just to push for a DNA test on the baby I don't know.
But heck, I don't understand half of why this is all taking so long. Remember, this goes back to flipping October of last year!!
But at least Larry can have solace in the fact that she was a celebrity. If she weren't, he probably wouldn't have any idea in the world where she took his daughter. She would be anoynomous.
My position is as chief chair-warmer:)
The Ca DNA request PRECEEDED the birth certifcate. The birth certificate does not annul the request.
I will be adding these into the FR Anna Day to Day timeline as my time allows me to.
Thank you for the post.
tyvm
Gee, Anna died just before that DNA event happened, too. It's all so amazing!!
Howard: "The Director"
When he winds up in Alcatraz, I'm gonna have a sign made up and send it to him!!
Thank you fatima
Post #1515 was in response to Southerngl's "Thread Nanny" reference.
Since my tagline is facetiously OTN - I excerpted the post, adding (what I believed) lighthearted homilies and accolades. We went 25k posts on Thread #1 with no snarky. It seemed to me that some of us might be so frustrated we were dinging each other.
Apparently, my post was considered angry, self-centered and infantile.
I certainly apologize if I have been obnoxious or churlish on this thread. My cup runneth over with respect for so many of you who have researched, collected, collated and been so collegial.
Yes - my profession is creative writing; but not prevarication - tee hee.
13th March
Custody Battle Into Smith’s Baby Set For This Week
By Quincy Parker
The weeklong reprieve from the unstinting coverage of the Anna Nicole Smith saga on the front pages of the local dailies is likely to end this week, with two court battles set to play out in Supreme Court and Bahamian authorities watching developments in Florida they say may have some bearing on local proceedings.
Anna Nicole Smith
When Ms. Smith died suddenly and under circumstances that are still the subject of speculation on February 8, she left behind a legal and law enforcement morass: a police investigation that spanned three states, a legal quagmire in Florida that turned into what many described as a circus, multifarious legal battles in The Bahamas and an infestation of paparazzi to cover it all.
One higher-up, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Journal that Bahamian authorities are watching with great interest to hear what the two pieces of evidence are that are delaying the release of the cause of death and the results of the Broward County Medical Examiner’s autopsy.
"If both deaths had happened in Florida," the source said, "there would have been an arrest by now."
The source was referring to reports that the new evidence may have something to do with the narcotic methadone, which reportedly played a part in the death of Ms. Smith’s son Daniel Wayne on September 10, and which many suspect was in the late pin-up’s system when she died in Florida.
In the face of persistent reports that local police were continuing to question Ms. Smith’s paramour lawyer Howard K. Stern about the incidents, the Journal spoke with Wayne Munroe, who briefly represented Mr. Stern last year.
Mr. Munroe was quick to point out that he is not Mr. Stern’s lawyer – that’s Anthony McKinney, who could not be reached – but went on to detail for the Journal the extent of Mr. Stern’s dealings with the local police, as far as he knew.
"As far as I’m aware, after he made the burglary complaint they interviewed him at the station; they then interviewed him by CDU, then CDU came up to the house and it was well televised with the crime scene folk and they interviewed them again about the burglary," he said.
While he is not Mr. Stern’s attorney, Mr. Munroe is the lawyer for the Smith estate, of which Mr. Stern is the executor.
He said that he was not aware of Mr. Stern being questioned by Seminole police when they were in The Bahamas two weeks ago conducting investigations into Ms. Smith’s death.
On Wednesday, lawyers for the parties involved will battle for custody of Ms. Smith’s six-month-old daughter.
Those parties include Virgie Arthur, Ms. Smith’s estranged mother; Mr. Stern, Ms. Smith’s live-in lawyer; and Richard Milstein, court-appointed attorney for the baby.
Also joined in that battle is Larry Birkhead, the California photographer who is Ms. Smith’s ex-lover and claims to be Dannielynn’s father. Mr. Birkhead’s aim is to get a paternity test to confirm whether he is the child’s father.
The hearing is set to take place before Supreme Court Justice Stephen Isaacs.
Typically in a ‘writ action,’ which the paternity matter is, both sides of a dispute file their pleadings with the court (asking for whatever relief they want from the court), then the sides proceed to dispute resolution, which insiders say has no chance of success as things now stand.
The matter is now at the case management stage, during which stage the court makes orders as to discovery, filing of documents that have not yet been filed, answering of interrogatories, and other preparatory steps for trial.
Mr. Munroe explained again the matter of a DNA or paternity test; he did not think it possible under Bahamian jurisprudence for anyone to compel Mr. Stern to take a DNA or paternity test.
"If somebody wishes to discharge a burden, they can ask themselves to be tested," he said.
He told the Journal that Mr. Birkhead would have to do a paternity or DNA test on himself, and then ask the court to compare that with a sample of the baby’s DNA.
"And that’s very possible," Mr. Munroe said. "In our declaration filed as long ago as November I said that was possible here."
Asked whether it is possible in Bahamian law for anyone to compel Mr. Stern to do a DNA test, Mr. Munroe said, "I don’t see how they can. If he is not (the girl’s father) he has no further interest. What interest has he in who is (the father, if he isn’t)?
"There’s an interesting English case, where the English Court of Appeal ruled quite positively that someone in the position of Howard couldn’t be compelled for a very simple reason – he’s the presumed father. Unless somebody else can displace him its in the interest of the child to have a father."
In a separate matter, Senior Justice Anita Allen has set aside an entire day on Friday to hear the matters arising from the dispute over the ownership of the Horizons estate on the Eastern Road, where Ms. Smith lived with Mr. Stern from August 2006 until she died in Florida in February.
There are at least three interlocutory applications involved in that matter: one seeking to force South Carolina developer G. Ben Thompson – another reported ex-lover, and the source of the $950,000 that bought the house – to post a security for costs, as he has no assets within the jurisdiction; one to have Mr. Thompson’s application for a declaration that he is the owner of the house, and – in the alternative – one to have all the applications regarding ownership of the house consolidated.
The Journal understands that there may be other applications as well, but even before Justice Allen hears the applications, she is going to have to determine whether the actions survive.
Mr. Thompson’s lawyer, Godfrey ‘Pro’ Pinder, wants the judge to decide that any actions filed on Mr. Smith’s behalf – like her application for a declaration that she owns the house – died with her, and should therefore be thrown out.
Those involved hope for a swift resolution, but realistically speaking do not wish to suggest a timeframe.
Neither case is ready for trial yet, and until then, there is no saying how much more complicated the matters could become.
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=11898
>>Gosh, I love Opri!
He's FOS.<<
I love Opri , now, but I sure couldn't stand her during the Michael Jackson mess!!
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