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Just a little FYI to people looking to upgrade too Vista, stay away from nVidia videocards for now, there drivers suck.
1 posted on 02/14/2007 12:59:06 PM PST by aft_lizard
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Linux, the other OS.


2 posted on 02/14/2007 1:00:52 PM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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Does Vista have the new microsoft portable document program?


3 posted on 02/14/2007 1:03:28 PM PST by Perdogg (Happy 2007.11)
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I just updated my nVidia drivers last week for my XP Pro SP2 system and wound up rolling back based on everything that suddenly wouldn't work. Can only imaging how it'd work with Vista.

Those Mac commercials are lookin' real good.


4 posted on 02/14/2007 1:05:34 PM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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I have n'Vidia card and Vista Ultimate works just fine. What I don't like about Vista is the Defrag. You can't see it work so you don't know if it's working and after hours the only thing that happens is it goes back to START DEFRAGMENTER.

That's what really SUCKS. There are also a few other things it doesn't like, such as Norton's Ghost and Norton's Anti-Virus unless it's the 2007 version.
5 posted on 02/14/2007 1:06:13 PM PST by BMC1 (11/7/06 THE DAY WE LOST THE WAR. TERRORISTS AND THE TERRORIST LOVING DEMONCRATS ARE NOW IN CONTROL.)
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it sure as heck beats a Mac.

Lesseehere...you've got a popular video card from a major manufacturer, and you have to "turn down the eye candy" and stop playing graphics-intensive games and turn the computer off frequently and suffer long load times...that sure as heck beats a Mac how exactly?

A maxed-out Mac Mini with big flat-panel is about $2500. And it works. Methinks it's time.

7 posted on 02/14/2007 1:07:07 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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With Vista, M$ changed their driver architecture. Older drivers may work, but not work well, or not at all. If you haven't downloaded specific drivers from nVidia, then that's your problem. If you have, then you're correct in that they didn't get it right.

As for Vista's new security model, you may want to go read some more about that.

10 posted on 02/14/2007 1:10:38 PM PST by AFreeBird (This space for rent. Inquire within)
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Did the pod people show up yet?


11 posted on 02/14/2007 1:11:23 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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It is sad that you have to buy the most powerful computer loaded with tons of memory and high power graphics card just to run the operating system. I can understand having to upgrade computers to run the latest high-powered applications, but not just to run the operating system. Nothing but bloatware.


14 posted on 02/14/2007 1:13:34 PM PST by Always Right
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I have an NVIDIA adapter and it worked flawlessly with Vista, even with the eyecandy to the max using the Aero(spelling) theme. Now I'm getting the "Your Copy of Windows Is Not Genuine"(it really isn't) and they took my eyecandy away :(. I was just taking it for a spin anyway.
18 posted on 02/14/2007 1:18:10 PM PST by KoRn
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Not anymore I have boot from cold and wait the long loading time for it to boot, because Vistas load time is not as quick as XP's. Meh I shouldnt complain its a free computer and it sure as heck beats a Mac.

After everything you've said and you say it still beats a Mac. Ha ha ha. Come back to the real world.
20 posted on 02/14/2007 1:20:44 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aft_lizard

Here's another little FYI:

No need to upgrade to Vista right now.


21 posted on 02/14/2007 1:21:00 PM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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really like Vista, it is very nice looking and has some neat gadgets and some appreciated security upgrades.

Yessss ... kissss the nice worm thing that crawled in your ear and extended its tendrils onto your spinal cord, your gut, and your heart.

What elsssse can you do.

24 posted on 02/14/2007 1:23:58 PM PST by bvw
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and it sure as heck beats a Mac

You're trippin, dude.

26 posted on 02/14/2007 1:25:56 PM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Swordmaker; HAL9000; Echo Talon

Another Vista thread.


30 posted on 02/14/2007 1:34:24 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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Its not NVidia's fault. Every time Microsoft rejiggers Windows, new drivers have to be written for various pieces of hardware to work together correctly. People should wait til Vista's Service 1 Pack is released. The situation should be much better by then.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

33 posted on 02/14/2007 1:36:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Maybe you should do a little more research before you start calling names. For one, you should read this article very thoroughly, as the author is quite expert in his subject:

A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection

If you don't get it by reading the Executive Summary, you should scroll down to the Indirect Disabling of Functionality part, then read the Elimination of Unified Drivers part and the Denial-of-Service via Driver/Device Revocation part. Yes, nVidia probably does have problems getting completely functional drivers for every version/release/upgrade/service pack of Vista, but that is not really nVidia's fault, as you can read in the article. There probably isn't going to be any hardware company that is going to get it right, because the OS software won't let them get it right. Read the part about Increased Hardware Costs and security/DRM having to be approved by "Hollywood and other content owners", rather than technicians and security experts.

Gutmann states that "This document looks purely at the cost of the technical portions of Vista's content protection" not the "political issues". He also states "Vista's content protection must be able to violate the laws of physics, something that's unlikely to happen..."

Go ahead and scream and kick and cry about everything except the OS... all you do is exhibit your abject ignorance to all and sundry. You can try to blame the hardware/driver suppliers all you want, but in the end it is technically impossible for them to provide reliable, quality products for this OS. Some may have a system that actually works, because their particular build/release of Vista just happened to get installed on marginally compatible hardware with marginally functional drivers/firmware, but that won't last long. As soon as the first "update" is loaded without the user's knowledge, things start to break.

You can drink all the MS koolaid you want, but technically this OS version is not going to work, and it may put some hardware manufacturers out of business through no fault of their own because they tried to "comply" with the OS requirements.

Have fun with your anti-nVidia rants. Have fun with all the problems you are going to have with Vista. And believe me, it will be Vista that is the problem, not the hardware/drivers/applications. I can't wait to hear your rant about how some hardware/application "blew up" your computer, or shut down/deleted your application, or outputs a fuzzy image or krappy sound... or no sound or video at all. And when Vista shuts down your hardware, applications and deletes your files. I'm sure it will always be everything else's fault but Vista's. Good luck, you're going to need it.

Yup, class action lawsuits against the hardware manufacturer because they cannot possibly comply with the OS/MS requirements. I agree, nVidia labeled some video cards as Vista ready/compliant, when they should never have even released a piece of hardware for the OS.

It would also help your credibility (such as it is) if you'd learn to spell and use reasonably understandable grammar and punctuation, so people could try to understand what you are writing. As it is, you come off as an illiterate who probably has trouble finding the on/off switch on the computer, so no wonder you have problems having drank the MS koolaid. Examples: learn the difference between to/too, their/there, just for a start.

51 posted on 02/14/2007 5:53:38 PM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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Just a little FYI to people looking to upgrade too Vista, stay away from nVidia videocards for now, there drivers suck.

I'm using Onboard Nvidia GeForce 6150 Video without issue...
Although I do like ATI better(for video quality reasons), I will be switching to them when I get a dedicated video card, Along with an ATI TV tuner card... To use with Vista's Media Center ;)

63 posted on 02/15/2007 7:23:51 AM PST by Echo Talon
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Vistas load time is not as quick as XP's

XP's load time is quick?

64 posted on 02/15/2007 7:25:23 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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There is a myriad of driver support problems with Vista. Both ATI and Nvidia had open letters explaining that they were given little or no support by MS in the development phase. Many other hardware companies said the same thing, and from I've seen in the field I tend to believe it.

The wise move for now is to wait. Driver support should be up to snuff in about six months.


67 posted on 02/15/2007 7:58:34 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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Maybe this has already been said, but the more I hear of vista, the more I think: hasta la vista


87 posted on 02/15/2007 1:10:26 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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