Posted on 01/25/2007 12:26:48 AM PST by Swordmaker
CNET editors' review
Rating: Very good 7.8 out of 10
The good: Windows Vista Ultimate does improve some features within Windows XP; fewer system crashes than Windows XP; Windows Vista offers better built-in support options.
The bad: Windows Vista Ultimate does not put Search on the desktop (it's buried within applications, within the Start Menu); optimized only for the Microsoft Windows ecosystem (for example, RSS feeds from Internet Explorer 7 get preferential treatment); there's simply too much and not all of it is implemented properly; no new software yet written exclusively for Windows Vista; and there are too many editions of Windows Vista.
The bottom line: Windows Vista is essentially warmed-over Windows XP. If you're currently happy with Windows XP SP2, we see no compelling reason to upgrade. On the other hand, if you need a new computer right now, Windows Vista is stable enough for everyday use.
There are six major editions of Windows Vista; we're reviewing four. We chose not to review Windows Vista Enterprise (available only to volume license customers) and Windows Vista Starter (available only outside the United States). Windows Vista Ultimate includes everything, and this is the edition getting the most promotion from Microsoft. It is not the edition most people will find packaged on their shiny new PCs or will end up with after an upgrade of existing hardware. See our feature comparison chart to know which edition is right for your specific needs, and check the following individual reviews for more details:
Windows Vista Business
Windows Vista Home Premium
Windows Vista Basic
Setup and installation
The Windows Vista DVD disc includes an ISO image of the entire code, so whether you buy the Basic edition or the Ultimate edition, the code remains the same; only the product key unlocks your specific set of features. This means users who opt for the lesser editions can always upgrade (assuming they have the proper hardware) by securing a new product key online. However, all features--even if you paid for them--are dependent on specific hardware configurations being present; if you don't have the proper graphics hardware, for example, you'll simply never see the Aero graphic effects on that old Dell computer in your basement.
Hardware requirements for Windows Vista should not be taken lightly. In a controversial move to garner positive reviews, Microsoft sent hundreds of bloggers (not including CNET) free copies of Windows Vista Ultimate; Microsoft did not send boxed copies, rather the software giant sent top-of-the-line Acer Ferrari laptops with the operating system preinstalled. So even Microsoft seems to admit that the best performance is only available on top-of-the-line machines manufactured within the last year or so.
That said, many people will still want to upgrade their current Windows XP SP2. This will keep all your current data and applications, importing them directly into the new operating system. To see which edition(s) of Windows Vista your current computer can handle, visit the CNET Vista Readiness Advisor to find specific hardware recommendations so you don't buy the wrong edition. Most people will find either Windows Vista Basic or Windows Vista Home Premium to be their best choice. While Windows Vista does make a backup of your previous operating system before installing, it is always recommended that you backup your current Windows XP system yourself, just in case.
Rather than upgrade, we recommend you perform a clean installation. With a clean installation, you keep all your current on the Windows XP drive and install only the data and applications you want to run on Windows Vista. A clean install can be accomplished by buying a new PC with Windows Vista already installed, partitioning an existing Windows XP machine to dual-boot into Windows Vista, or adding a new hard drive to an existing Windows XP machine.
Our clean installations took anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour, depending on the hardware in the system. It's pretty much an automated process, with the installer first copying the ISO image onto the new hard drive or partition then expanding that image. Once again, we experienced an uncomfortably long plateau at "Expanding: 27 percent"; as with previous builds, we waited between two and five minutes before the expansion continued. About halfway through, the installer reboots and continues the installation in Windows Vista.
During the installation, Windows Vista will load the drivers included within the installation image, but it will also download additional drivers from a much larger database at Microsoft. This assumes, however, that one has an always-on Internet connection; dial-up users may find that upon completion of the installation process some drivers are missing.
Once fully installed, Windows Vista first asks for your country or region, then time and currency, and, finally, the desired keyboard layout. Next, you'll choose a username, a user icon, and a password. Then select your desktop wallpaper and security settings: Automatic, Install Important Updates Only, or Ask Me Later. After reviewing the computer's time and date settings, there's one more message: "Please wait while Windows checks your computer's performance." Here, Microsoft grades your computer on a five-point scale, with the overall rating based on your system's lowest score (in our case, that was for the video card).
Windows Vista includes new musical tones written by veteran musican Robert Fripp. Compared to the familiar start-up tones of Windows XP, Windows Vista's are lighter, almost spritely. The sounds for User Account Control and Log Off are also perkier than those found in similar security warnings within Windows XP.
New on the Windows Vista desktop is a Welcome Center which contains links to frequently asked questions such as, "How do you configure your printer?" and "How do you connect to your Internet service?" There is also room for some sales opportunities, either with manufacturer specials or online offers from Microsoft, such as the Windows Live OneCare service. Frankly, we think it is better for you to look beyond the Windows ecosystem for e-mail, Internet browsers, and security applications.
After closing the Welcome Center, you'll notice to the far right there is a shaded sidebar populated with three example Gadgets ("widgets" to everyone else), tiny desktop applets that display content, such as RSS feeds. In one Gadget, a slide show of images from the sample photo library display; in the next, the current time; finally, there's a Gadget for subscribed RSS feeds. We downloaded and installed Firefox 2, made Firefox our default browser, and quickly set up a few RSS feed subscriptions. Guess what? The Windows Vista Gadget was unresponsive to our efforts, displaying only the default MSN feeds from Microsoft. You have to use Internet Explorer 7 or choose a Firefox-friendly Gadget instead. By clicking the + symbol atop the sidebar, you'll see a panel of available Gadgets, with a link out to the Web to find even more. The Gadgets are not fixed to the sidebar; they can be dragged across the desktop. And even the sidebar itself can be disabled to allow for a full desktop view. An icon located within the taskbar will restore the sidebar at any time.
The familiar Start menu features some cosmetic changes for Windows Vista. Aside from the distinctive rounded icon, the Start menu now includes a built-in Search function. We would have preferred to have access to Search directly from the desktop rather than digging down a level or two. The All Programs list now displays as an expandable/collapsible directory tree, something Windows should have offered years ago. The new Start menu is divided in half, with access to documents, pictures, music, games, recent items, My Computer, network, Control Panel, default programs, and Help along the right-hand side.
Also new within Start is an Instant Off button. This button caches all your open files and processes, allowing you to turn off your laptop or desktop quickly without all the "cleaning up files" messages you see in previous versions. We like the feature, but on our Acer Travelmate 8200, Instant Off and closing the lid to hibernate sometimes produced limbo states where the laptop simply wouldn't wake up again, forcing us to reboot.
In Windows Vista, files become unmoored from the traditional directory tree structure--kind of. The more ambitious plan of including a whole new file system was scrapped early on; instead, Windows Vista relies on metatags, which are keywords linked to files to make them searchable. With metatags, you can create virtual file folders based on a variety of search terms. Say you're doing a report on mountains, any file that is keyword-enabled to include "mountains" will be grouped into a virtual folder without physically dragging that file to a new location. The downside is that older files (say you upgraded your system from Windows XP or imported data from an earlier version of Windows) will have to be retroactively metataged in order to be searched. Also different is the file path displayed within Windows Explorer. Gone are the backslashes, replaced with arrows that offer drop-down menus of alternative folders. We liked this efficient feature.
Finally, there's a compatibility wizard buried deep within Windows Vista. Most Windows XP applications we loaded performed just fine. Operating under the hood, Windows Vista convinces native Windows XP applications that they're running on Windows XP. Should you need to run an older application, say from Windows 95, the compatibility wizard allows you to tweak the display resolution and emulate Windows 95 for that program. For example, we were able to run a Windows 95-optimized game demo on our Windows Vista test system.
Features
There are too many individual features within Windows Vista Ultimate Edition to call out--seriously. However, our gut feeling is that most of the significant bells and whistles are designed for the Enterprise-level customers, not the home user. Having a large number of features should not be confused with actually providing significant value to all users across the board. We would have preferred fewer features executed extremely well rather than an uneven mix of this and that, a one-size-fits-all operating system. And we disagree with Microsoft's seemingly arbitrary division of features within individual editions.
Common to all editions of Windows Vista are ad hoc backup and recovery, instant Search, Internet Explorer 7 browser, Windows Media Player 11, Windows Mail e-mail client, Windows Calendar, Windows Photo Gallery, performance tuning and self-diagnostics, Internet protocol IPv6 and IPv4 support, Windows ReadyDrive, a maximum of 4GB RAM support on 32-bit editions (up to 128GB RAM on some 64-bit editions), Windows Sync Center for mobile devices, Windows Mobility Center for presentations on the road, User Account Control security protection, Windows Security Center, Windows Defender antispyware, Windows Firewall, Windows Meeting Space for ad hoc wireless meetings, Remote Desktop for working from home, XPS document support for PDF-like files, improved peer-to-peer networking, improved VPN support, and improved power management. Included within certain editions (and thus also included within the Ultimate edition) are Windows Media Center, Windows Tablet PC, Windows Movie Maker, Windows DVD Maker, Parental Controls, Windows SideShow for remote gadgets, domain join for Windows Small Business Server, Group Policy support, Client-side file caching, Roaming User Profiles for remote server access, Windows Fax and Scan, Windows ShadowCopy to create file backups, Windows Rights Management Services to protect documents, Windows BitLocker hard drive encryption, integrated smart card management, and various Windows Ultimate Extras to be named later. Despite many feature changes within Windows Vista, Microsoft has held onto its original marketing promise of providing users with Clear, Confident, and Connected solutions.
For Clear, Microsoft cites its new Aero graphics. Aero is part of the Windows Presentation Foundation, a subgroup of the .Net Foundation Framework, an underlying foundation for developers to build new applications. One applet is the New York Times Times Reader, the first of many products written exclusively for Windows Vista but hardly a compelling reason by itself to upgrade. Though video playback and, yes, even the tiny icons on Windows Vista are now crisp and colorful with Aero, unless you watch YouTube videos all day, you won't really need Aero, nor will you miss the tiny preview windows enabled on your desktop display. Aero is necessary to create Microsoft's new, Adobe PDF-like file format called XPS (Extensible Page System); however, any Windows XP SP2 machine can view XPS-created pages with downloads of the .Net 3 Framework Foundation and the Internet Explorer 7 browser.
For Confident, Microsoft touts new security enhancements within Windows Vista. You shouldn't encounter User Account Control (UAC) except when changing system configurations or installing new software, and even then, wouldn't you--in this age of downloadable spyware--prefer to know when an executable file is about to run? While UAC notifies you of pending system changes, it doesn't require a password. The Mac operating system does something similar but requires a password--that's security. Microsoft's more controversial method to lock down the system kernel is only available in the 64-bit editions of Windows Vista; most home users will not run these editions. Another celebrated security feature works only within Windows Mail, which most people are unlikely to use. And finally, the jury is still out on whether Internet Explorer 7 is more secure than, say, Firefox 2. Windows Vista also includes a built-in but limited two-way firewall and free Windows Defender antispyware, which ranked poor in competitive testing done by Download.com.
For Connected, Microsoft points to the new peer-to-peer possibilities, some of which are the result of its acquisition of Groove several years ago. From within Windows Explorer (there are separate Explorers within Windows Vista, one each for documents, photos, and music) you can move any file into a Public Folder and then mark the file or folder for sharing on a network. Within the Business and Ultimate editions you can further mark individual files for remote access.
Performance
Upon installation, Windows Vista rates each system's overall hardware performance, with the final score reflecting your system's lowest individual score. This is handy. For example, if you suspect that everything's running a little slow, you might find that your hard drive is returning the lowest score. Windows Vista will then recommend a faster hard drive or a drive with larger compatibility. Mostly, though, the video card will be the sore spot for most users. There's also an event log viewer to show, for example, after a specific software install your system performance started to degrade, and that uninstalling the software may restore your overall performance.
Under the hood, Microsoft has moved device drivers for DVD burners and printers out of the system kernel; Microsoft says that a majority of system crashes can be traced to improperly installed third-party device drivers. Thus Windows Vista hopes to vanquish the dreaded Blue Screen of Death common to earlier releases of Windows. Indeed, after testing several early builds, we found Windows Vista to be remarkably stable and robust.
Support
Along with the performance monitors, Microsoft has improved the Help section considerably. There is a static FAQ, but it also links to Microsoft online and allows outreach to other users for help, either via a forum or direct PC-to-PC help. Of these, we really like a feature available on some, not all, FAQs that allows you to automate the solution by executing a script. This method doesn't teach you how to do it in the future, but it will accomplish the task at hand. For example, if you choose to update a device driver, Windows Vista will darken the desktop; highlight and open the Start menu, the Control Panel, and the Device Manager; then pause to ask you what device you want to update. It's like having a technician at your desktop, walking you though the process. There's an increasing reliance on user-generated support forums, which leads us to believe that Microsoft is shying away from its own live technical support. At press time, Microsoft's final support policy was unavailable.
Conclusion
Perhaps we're spoiled, but after more than five years of development, there's a definite "Is that all?" feeling about Windows Vista. Like cramming an info-dump into a book report the night before it's due, there certainly are a lot of individual features within the operating system, but the real value lies in their execution--how the user experiences (or doesn't experience) these--and like the info-dump, we came away shaking our heads, disappointed. Compared with Mac OS X 10.4, Windows Vista feels clunky and not very intuitive, almost as though it's still based on DOS (or at least the internal logic that made up DOS). Despite the addition of a system-wide, built-in Search, and various efforts to break away from staidly old directory trees, you still need to drill down one level to even access Search. And there are far too many dependencies on Microsoft products; this is not a very objective operating system, as preference is always given to Microsoft products (of which there are many), from MSN Search to RSS feeds only from Internet Explorer. But is Windows Vista a bad operating system? No. It's just a disappointment for PC users who hoped that Microsoft would deliver something truly exciting to finally leapfrog ahead of Apple. They failed. But stick around; this is just Windows Vista 1.0. Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is due out sometime before the end of the year. Windows Vista SP1 promises to fix what's known to be wrong within Windows Vista and should offer a few concrete reasons to switch.
Hilarious. You came running to help some other guy's claim that Microsoft had "lifted" what is considered free code, very similar to what you were doing here. You're all for free software when it's foreign hackers or the Chinese government getting it, but if it's someone you don't like such as Microsoft you act like something is wrong. It's like N3WBI3 and his "open source" ping list, just don't dare try to use it like open source LMAO, since he then freaks out and all the hypocritical skeletons come tumbling out of the closet. Same here with you.
Hysterical, you mean like when you lied, repeatedly for months and tried to claim Russian hackers wrote software that was in use by the US DoD as part of your defense of the criminal Russian hackers, that you only admitted months later and tried to claim was some sort of trick? It's still unknown if you posted those lies from DoD computers, which is something you've never completely denied. Either way, I know better than believe a word you say, you're an admitted liar, and you've admitted to making up lies in defense of foreign criminals, still here today trying to make excuses for them.
Hysterical, you mean like when you lied, knowingly and repeatedly for months trying to claim Russian hackers wrote software that was in use by the US DoD as part of your defense of the criminal Russian hackers, that you only admitted months later and tried to claim was some sort of a trick? It's still unknown if you posted those lies from DoD computers, which is something you've never completely denied. Either way, I know better than believe a word you say, you're an admitted liar, and you've admitted to making up lies in defense of foreign criminals, as we see still here today trying to make excuses for them.
I defended Microsoft against claims that was copyright infringement or in any way inappropriate, contrary to your willful distortion of my posts. I demanded evidence that Microsoft did not credit BSD, and none showed, so the claim was considered false. Just like I demanded evidence from you that the OS X hackers did it for financial gain, and again none showed, so the claim was considered false.
Hysterical that you have neither proven nor retracted your claim that I falsely "recited" the law. You instead prefer to go off on a rant and leave your lie standing.
It's your problem, but if that were my system, I'd be getting to the bottom of it. Re-boots are definitely a good prescription for Windows based machines, but forced re-boots that often indicates a problem that I wouldn't necessarily be hanging on the OS.
#35: Accusing me of inconsistent views, "Like usual, he's all over the place." in reference to me having said AMD's chips have far better technology than Intel's.
#109: Claiming I said "most of OSX was "free software""
#111: Claiming I "falsely recite the law"
#116: Your yet again taking my defense of Microsoft out of context in order to make it look like I claimed Microsoft had done something wrong in using BSD code in Windows.
Prove or retract the above statements, or let your libel stand for all to see just like the last time I proved a list of your lies about me.
And then quit stalking me, and quit constantly ruining threads with your libel and taking my comments out of context. Almost every thread remains civil until you show up. I don't believe that such actions are appreciated on this forum.
Is there a part of this you don't understand?
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"If you talk about someone ping them!"
More than half the threads to which I posted to recently have nothing to do with technology, let alone are started by me posting to you.
Unfortunately, I try to make him do one or the other. I do need to learn to give up on any hope of an honest exchange earlier though.
I shall repeat the mantra: "Stop feeding the troll. Stop feeding the troll. ..." It's hard when you're personally attacked though. He even got a FReeper to believe his libel once.
If you're happy with the current version of OSx why should you upgrade to the new version? Why is one company (MS) held to a higher standard? I think we ALL know why, and the numbers tell the tale...
LMAO, if you think anyone of a right mind believes your endless lies on behalf of the criminal Russian hackers that cracked OSX to run on a Dell, you're even more crazy than previously thought. Your repeated putdowns of Republicans, Christians, Conservatives, President Bush and his family aren't working in your favor either.
All they have to do is see this thread and how you refuse to put up or shut up, how you evade responsibility for your own posts.
I'm done with this unless any future post shows proof for your accusations or retractions. You may interpret a non-response on my part to mean that you provided neither, instead choosing further meaningless rants, and are therefore not worth a response.
If I'm happy with whatever software I'm running, the vendors are going to have to come up with some new software that I must have to make me switch.
Vista may have some new functions, but I don't percieve an immediate need for them.
I'll update when I buy a new computer.
LOL, I just counted at least seven links I put up compared to zippo for you pal. You got a couple of Linux hounds to post something on your behalf but even their support is running thin these days. Sure some people like free software, but only liberal scum take it to the point of endlessly defending criminal foreign hackers like yourself. You've called your lying quote "fun" though, so no one is surprised you're still posting BS in their defense.
Retailers bring out the freebies for Vista's launch
When Microsoft releases a new operating system, there are typically a number of special promotions from retailers to entice consumers to part with their money. The January 30 launch of Windows Vista is no exception and retailers from Best Buy to Staples are looking to provide added value with items that are either free instantly or free after mail-in rebate with the purchase of Vista. Here's a listing of some of the deals that can be had starting tomorrow:
Best Buy: Purchase Windows Vista Home Premium or higher and receive H&R Block TaxCut Premium Federal + State, Kingston 512MB PC3200 or 512MB PC2700 DDR Memory and Microsoft Live OneCare free instantly.
Circuit City: Purchase Windows Vista Home or Premium and receive a D-Link Wireless G Router, Norton Internet Security 2007, TaxCut Premium Federal + State, SpySweeper, Windows Live OneCare and a Lexmark X2480 All-in-One Printer free after mail-in rebate.
Office Depot: Purchase Windows Vista and receive AquaZone, Professor Teaches Office 2007, Hoyle Casino, Norton Antivirus 2007 Professor Teaches Vista and Spyware Doctor free after mail-in rebate.
OfficeMax: Purchase Windows Vista Home Premium or higher and receive a 512MB SanDisk Cruzer or Professor Teaches Windows Vista for 99c each.
Staples: Purchase Windows Vista Home Premium or higher and receive a 1GB PNY USB Flash Drive free instantly. McAfee PC Protection Plus 2007, CA Anti-Virus 2007, My Home and Business Attorney and Norton Confidential 2007 are also available free after mail-in rebate with the purchase of Windows Vista.
In addition, both Best Buy and Circuit City will have the Gateway MT3705 14.1" notebook for $599 with no rebates. The 5.2 pound notebook features a 1.6GHz Intel Pentium Dual-Core T2060 processor, 1GB of RAM, a dual-layer DVD burner, 100GB 4200 RPM hard drive, ATI Radeon Express 200M chipset, 4-in-1 media reader, 3 USB 2.0 ports and built-in 802.11g wireless.
Thanks for the updates.. That's ok, I haven't had the time to mess around with EasyBCD or Vista myself, but just the same it's good to know there is a workaround.
On a side note, I can't help but drool at your cpu and mem specs as I'm still running an old xp1700+ Tbred with only 512Kb of ram... it's time to upgrade!
Ahh... I only have 1GB of ram and 128MB of that is being used/robbed by the onboard GeForce 6150 graphics.... Its an ok system for now, but I need to get more memory and a better video card when money becomes available... ;) Btw, I had this CPU overclocked over 3GHZ I never found the limits of this cpu and motherboard yet... i'm not going to push it... I throttled it back to 2.75GHZ(2.2GHZ was default) default voltage all is good.... Need to get 2GB of ram ASAP... probably this week...
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