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Police: Teen who hit SUV with eggs slain
AP ^ | 12/3/06

Posted on 12/03/2006 7:54:15 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A 14-year-old boy who was throwing eggs at cars along with two other teenagers was shot and killed by someone who had been in a sport-utility vehicle that was hit, police said.

Danny Crawford was killed by a gunshot wound to his upper body, Franklin County Coroner Brad Lewis said. He died in an alley on the city's west side early Saturday, authorities said.

The teens were throwing eggs at cars when an SUV that was struck chased them, Detective Tim Huston said. The vehicle stopped and several gunshots were fired, he said.

Police were looking for the shooter, who fled in the SUV, Sgt. Dana Norman said. The SUV believed to be involved was found a short time later near where Crawford died.

The other teens were not hurt, police said.


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To: 4butnomorethan30characters
I do enjoy a good debate that doesn't turn into name calling and the such.

Agreed.

The issue I have though, is the yard stick keep moving and moving, and in the general sense, I think our country as a whole has been weakened.

I definately agree with that. We'll end the debate here then. I have to head off to work now, anyway.
181 posted on 12/03/2006 11:18:51 AM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Dead Corpse

Yep, it's all true. Don't do the crime, unless etc. Trouble here, is some people are saying it's quite ok to shoot an unarmed 14 year old to death for throwing an egg at a car. The kid's actions were reckless, and possibly very dangerous, but chasing him down, cornering him, and then shooting him to death is just plain rotten, and the murderer should get the same thing. Anyone who condones this should picture himself in that alley, holding the gun, looking squarely at this kid, and seriously ask themselves if they would have emptied it into him.


183 posted on 12/03/2006 11:20:46 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: alicewonders

"...I believe a 14 year old is old enough to know right from wrong ..."

Knowing it's wrong is a far cry from knowing how seriously wrong it is, and I doubt that he really understood that throwing an egg at a car could have such drastic consequences. We can't know one way or another, we don't (and never will) know him.

"...this kid was heading in the wrong direction and probably would have been a larger problem on society sometime..."

Or not. It's pure speculation. Lots and lots of 14 year olds get into minor scrapes, then grow up to be perfectly responsible adults. Maybe all those who support killing this kid know they were never bad boys or girls at this age; or maybe they're just forgetful. Or hypocrites.


184 posted on 12/03/2006 11:26:38 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: marsh_of_mists
"Just killing everyone on the planet who commits crimes, will eventually lead to no one ever committing a crime".

Leave it to a blue stater to suggest killing everybody in order to not appear discriminatory towards those who actually committ the crimes.

Sounds stupid to me.
185 posted on 12/03/2006 11:32:49 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Is not death also victory in a war against an abomination so vile you could never live with it?)
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To: Youngman442002

"the brain stem hasn't developed in a lot of these "kids"....sad to say..but true..."

all they have is a brain stem, obviously missing the rest


186 posted on 12/03/2006 11:39:25 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: marsh_of_mists

"I suppose it's a deterrent, but the ends don't justify the means."


if you can't control the end (the consequences) you'd BEST control your actions

if the kid hadn't been with a bunch of egg throwers he wouldn't be dead now would he??

And whose choice was that??

Remeber the root cause......


187 posted on 12/03/2006 11:42:53 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Melas

"Too stupid for mere words to express."

Couldn't agree with you more. Pretty asinine, comparing the victimless act of spitting on the side walk to the egging of autos on the Interstate, that has the potential of causing major mayhem.


188 posted on 12/03/2006 11:44:56 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Is not death also victory in a war against an abomination so vile you could never live with it?)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

TANKS for the ping,,,Every few months,around here, Somebody
is killed or badly hurt by kids dropping rocks etc. from
the overpasses,,,One lady was killed by a watermelon,,,
Another was killed as well as a child in the backseat by
a chunk of concrete,,,
Would these kids have switched to rocks when they ran out of eggs...?


189 posted on 12/03/2006 11:53:03 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: jdm

If you are hit with an egg you don't know what has happened until you examine your auto or see the person throwing the egg.
If you see it being thrown you have no excuse for not exercising self restraint because you know that it is only an egg.
On the other hand if you stop your vehicle to find out what happened you discover that your auto was hit with an egg that can easily be washed off.
My post responded to unforseen incidents while driving, such has having a windshield shattered by gravel flying from a dump truck. It's unsettling but it's only a windshield. Nothing about your vehicle is worth the killing of a 14 year old unless that youngster is clearly approaching you with the intent of doing harm to you or someone with you.
It's only a car.


190 posted on 12/03/2006 12:42:05 PM PST by em2vn
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Was anybody driving the SUV? ;o)


191 posted on 12/03/2006 12:52:19 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
They need to find the driver of that SUV and I mean right now.

And immediately put him in charge of combat operations in Iraq.

192 posted on 12/03/2006 12:54:50 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: jim35; Plains Drifter
Let’s look at the post that began the brouhaha, post 17:

In California to throw any object at a moving vehicle is a felony.

Just reporting the facts as they exist.

Where would the bleeding hearts be if the SUV driver had swerved his vehicle because he was surprised and ran over and killed another innocent child.

Rational question to ask in today’s world. However, it could confuse and anger those who lead with their hearts, and not their heads. Not sure if that includes you, but it undoubably includes JV, based on her hysteria.

That young adult's actions had consequences.

Feel free to elaborate, but this also seems straight forward and rational for all but Leftists and other irrational people.

Maybe he'd still be around today if his parents would have raised him to respect the law and other people's property.

Again, blood in the water for those whose hearts override their minds. JV is there, where are you?

No sorrow here.

Now THERE’S a capper if there ever was one. I suspect it was that statement that sent you and JV completely around the bend.

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So we’re not sorry that a (most likely) gang banger is dead.

And for THAT you stand on the overpass and drop a verbal rock on me as I drive by?!!!

You and JV obviously let your hearts override any reading comprehension abilities and common sense you might have.

I had no desire to exchange any words with JV. Her posts are those of an idiot.

You were reduced to misrepresenting my position, just as JV misrepresented Plains Drifters', either purposely or by accident. Without this false portral, your posts also look like those of a raving idiot.

193 posted on 12/03/2006 1:07:44 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters
"I again repeat my request that the shooter be sent immediately to target practice."

I think he should. I think he should be put before a firing squad, where the squad practices shooting out his knees. He's a worthless murderer.

194 posted on 12/03/2006 1:07:55 PM PST by spunkets
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To: jim35
You weren't there. Neither was I. Your excusing the kids criminal actions is on shaky moral grounds.

"Oh... it was just youthful hijinks..."

And if it had ended in this kid victim dying from his "prank"... would you still be singing the same tune?

A crime is a crime. Rightfully, the victim of said crime, at the point of the offense, is a 1000 times more likely to punish said criminal more effectively than the legal system ever could.

I'd say getting shot at is a pretty damn good deterrent for criminal mischief and vandalism... Don't you?

195 posted on 12/03/2006 1:28:36 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: em2vn
My sister almost lost an eye when she was 6 because of a thrown egg out a car window by a bunch of neighborhood punks.

The "it's only an egg" crap doesn't wash... What next? It was only a little B&E. Only a little sexual assault? Only a little grand theft auto? After all, no one is losing their life over it right?

And people wonder why crime doesn't go away.

196 posted on 12/03/2006 1:32:06 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; Dead Corpse; JillValentine
"Rational question to ask in today’s world."

The "rational questions" were posed to diminish the heinousness of the act of running down a 14 y/o and murdering him. He was murdered! His life was taken in a vicious way w/o just cause! It's that simple. The questions were posed as they were to imply just cause existed and the murder was understandable.

Re: That young adult's actions had consequences.

" Feel free to elaborate, but this also seems straight forward and rational for all but Leftists and other irrational people."

What is rational is to note and realize that a murder was committed here. That there was no just cause for the action, not in the slightest. The responsibility for the murder belongs entirely to the murderer, not the victim. The consequences of throwing an egg at a car do not include being murdered. Do you understand that?

"So we’re not sorry that a (most likely) gang banger is dead."

It doesn't look like it understand it at all, because all you've done is attempt to demean the murdered 14 y/o victim. I note your distinct failure to comprehend the viciousness of the adult's behavior in chasing the kid down and killing him. It was completely unjustified!

197 posted on 12/03/2006 1:41:14 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

You forgot to ping Jim35


198 posted on 12/03/2006 1:43:45 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: Dead Corpse
" A crime is a crime. Rightfully, the victim of said crime, at the point of the offense, is a 1000 times more likely to punish said criminal more effectively than the legal system ever could. I'd say getting shot at is a pretty damn good deterrent for criminal mischief and vandalism... Don't you?

A crime is a crime? Your sense of justice and responsibility comes from a cesspool.

200 posted on 12/03/2006 1:46:31 PM PST by spunkets
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