I believe him. Not.
For some reason this guy never has seemed honest to me...
If this is true it harms the ministry, even though, they like all of us are humans and all have sinned and fallen short. By dang, this is not good for the cause. Reminds me of a minister we had once, that admited an affair he was having. He preached then at the end of the service went all through the confessions.... I was only about 10, but it scared me to death.....
Sounds like the public confession of former evangelist Jimmy Swaggert. He went to motels with prostitutes but he never had sex just looked at them naked. Yeah, right! (sarc)
Let us not forget that we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.Pray for Haggard and his family and his congregation. But we really need to butt out and let the Pastor solve this between the people he needs to solve it with ie: His congregation, his wife, his kids, and mostly with his God. At this point he does not sound very repentent. And hopefully it comes, but it's really none of our business.
Sure. He ordered it more than once, and didn't use it. Yeah...I believe him...no question.
Got a massage, too. A prostate massage, perhaps?
This guy's toast.
If the gay stuff is true, to claim that that means gay marriage should be legal would be like claiming meth should be legal just because he was buying it. Or prostitution.
I'm not a very good person because of my sins.
But for crying out loud!
Gay sex and meth?
How does this even happen?
yep, this is just going to get worse
Mercy. "I bought it for myself but never used it," Haggard told reporters gathered outside his home. "I was tempted, but I never used it."
I don't know where the truth is in this sorry mess, but that sounds so much like Bill Clinton it makes me very, very uncomfortable.
The funny part is that a well known side effect of meth is that it will cause, uh.., shrinkage. It will shrivel up your manhood ...
[seinfeld] ...like a frightened turtle [/seinfeld].
"I did'nt inhale".
Maybe. He told the leadership of his church after his initial denials that some of what was said was true. And after the first lie detector test, his accuser failed some questions. It's too early, yet, to know, but I would not discount the possibility that what he is saying is true. Well, some of it. I have a hard time believing he bought meth more than once and didn't use it. I think it could be possible that because Jones is also homosexual that he considered trying that too, but didn't. Maybe compromised with a massage. And this is God's way of saving this man. I don't know, but until we know more, I won't assume the worst. Yet.
I became an Evangelical Christian 25 Years Ago. At that time, I was given great advice from an elderly lady in the church, and I have followed this advice all along. She told me, "Don't look at other Christians as your example, always and only look at Jesus." I have followed it and have never been disappointed.
"The Rev. Ted Haggard admitted Friday he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a gay prostitute who claims he was paid for drug-fueled trysts by the former head of the National Association of Evangelicals."
It's really too bad. I wish him and his family peace and Gods' grace to get through this. They are going to need it.
..I am thankful that a tragic story like this was held back-- so not to effect the upcoming election </sarcasm>
Willingly, as in when there is no other way out. So, he's still being paid, too.
"He admits it's himself on the tape ordering "more" meth like the last time, but says that he keeps ordering it and not using it, and that Jones just gave him a massage.
I believe him. Not."
A very common behavior that goes with the addict/alcoholic is lying.
I expect he is lying. Likely to himself, his family, the media, his followers, etc.
Expect an announcement he will go to a rehab clinic.