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Speech Differences in Wisconsin Being Studied (Yah-Hey!)
JSOnline via AP ^ | September 4, 2006 | John Hartzell

Posted on 09/04/2006 1:56:37 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

MILWAUKEE, WI (AP) -- Jennifer Delahanty said it seemed normal to her as she grew up in Eau Claire to hear sayings such as, "Do you want to come with?" and "Come here once."

"You're not aware the way you talk is different," said the University of Wisconsin-Madison graduate student in German social linguistics. "But when I came to Madison and had contact with students from other parts of the country, I realized that it was."

Delahanty, who is both researcher and subject in a study of Wisconsin speech that got under way this year, said those sentence structures are more common in German than English.

It's just one of many peculiarities in spoken English in the state that are part of the Wisconsin Englishes Project study headed by Thomas Purnell, a UW-Madison assistant professor of linguistics, and Joe Salmons, director of the school's Center for the Study of Upper Midwestern Cultures.

Although there is a common belief that American speech patterns are becoming more homogeneous due to the impact of television, Salmons said, studies have shown that regional U.S. dialects are thriving and evolving.

"People make a conscious decision on who to hang out with, dress like and talk like," he said.

Salmons said he grew up in North Carolina and his wife was from Wisconsin, and the differences in speech between the two regions was much in evidence at their wedding reception.

"It was not quite as different as speaking Swahili and Japanese, but our families had some problem understanding one another," he said.

Two rather distinct linguistic patterns are used in Wisconsin.

One is called the northern cities shift, which is spoken by many from as far east as Upstate New York. In Wisconsin, it is spoken primarily by people in about the southeastern third of the state in an area bordered by Lake Michigan on the east, Manitowoc or Green Bay on the north, to as far west as the Madison area, Purnell said.

It is typified by changing the vowel in bad, bat, pad, pat to sound more like bed, bet, ped and pet, Salmons said.

The other pattern in Wisconsin is called the low-back merger, which has moved into the western counties, after starting in Pennsylvania and migrating along a narrow band as far as California then heading back eastward, the researchers say.

That speech pattern is typified by such words as cot and caught being pronounced the same, as well as Don and Dawn, rot and wrought, sot and sought and not and naught, Salmons said, although how they are pronounced varies.

With those two linguistic patterns headed toward one another, Wisconsin could become a battleground in which state residents speak one or the other or a hybrid evolves, Purnell said.

"Wisconsinites have a very strong pride element about their sports teams, such as the Green Bay Packers and the Wisconsin Badgers. People get worked up. We also cloak our identity in how we speak," he said.

Some people in America's Dairyland pronounce milk as melk.

Purnell believes that is part of the northern cities shift.

But Erica Benson, a University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire assistant English professor who also is a researcher in the project, said it exists in some parts of the state where the shift has not been seen and it may just be a relic of longtime dialects used in those regions.

The state is also split when it comes to describing carbonated soft drinks as soda or pop. Soda generally is used in eastern Wisconsin but pop is more common west of Madison, Salmons said.

Another unusual aspect of Wisconsinites' vocabulary is using the term bubbler to describe what people in most of the country call a drinking fountain or water fountain, Salmons said.

That stems from marketing here years ago of a drinking fountain with a bubbling valve, Salmons said.

Purnell said there is even disagreement within the state on whether the term applies only to a drinking fountain in which the water constantly bubbles or also applies to one in which the stream of water can be turned off and on.

Purnell and Salmons said more study of spoken language has been done in other parts of the country compared to the Midwest, which prompted them to seek a grant of $2,000 from the Wisconsin Humanities Council that they received to start their study earlier this year.

Forums were held in Milwaukee, Madison and Eau Claire this spring to talk about the subject which drew 180 people, with many staying for an hour or more beyond the scheduled end, Salmons said.

"People love to talk about language," Benson said.

The researchers are now preparing to apply for a federal grant to expand their study.

"We increasingly rely on automatic speech recognition devices in our society to interpret what is said," Salmons said. "But it's a moving object. It's a real challenge."


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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..

If you'd like to be on or off this Upper Midwest (WI, IA, MN, MI, and anyone else) list, largely rural issues, please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


21 posted on 09/04/2006 5:28:05 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yea-der-hey-what-say-you-and-me-go-down-tu-da-bar-and-trow-a-few beeers-in-our-heads BUMP . . and so?


22 posted on 09/04/2006 5:30:36 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

I had someone from Arizona tell me that I had a Michigan accent the first time we spoke on the phone. I couldn't detect any accent on her end.


23 posted on 09/04/2006 5:30:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: MotleyGirl70

"Bubbler"??! News to me. That's a water fountain to us folks up here.


24 posted on 09/04/2006 5:36:08 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: cripplecreek
A Michigan accent?
There's no such thing, eh?
25 posted on 09/04/2006 5:37:05 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; GOP_Party_Animal

When I was at Marquette in the 80's, my Jersey accent was a source a much humor at my expense!

I lost my accent over those 4 years. In a way, I'm glad since my accent was so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

The one word that I'm surprised is NOT in the article is "roof". Why in the world do cheesheads pronouce it "ruff"?

And ya der hey, I had a brat and a brew der at the Brewers game with a guy from Cudahey. He asked me to come with.


26 posted on 09/04/2006 5:44:38 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: muawiyah
Wisconsonians can be picked out of a crowd

I guess. I happened to be in Madison during the Bush/Gore presidential debates. In the student union, I overheard a guy talking to his mom on the phone about the debate. I am (almost) ashamed to say that my first thought was, 'people who talk like that shouldn't even have the franchise.' I'm used to dealing with internationals with all types of accents. My late mother-in-law was from the UP in Michigan, so it's not like I haven't heard some strange midwest speech before, but this took the cake. I ended up standing to the side and listening to this guy because I'd never heard anything like that accent before.

My apologies in advance for offending anyone from Wisconsin.

27 posted on 09/04/2006 5:58:23 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: leilani

Pillbugs. They love to live in my compost piles. They're completely harmless and do a good job of turning the soil, so having them in your compost is a Good Thing, Martha! ;)


28 posted on 09/04/2006 6:01:38 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: radiohead
Look, Wisconsonians own and operate Madison, which is right up there with Ithaca (the City of Hate).

They have no ethics you know. Right as I was starting college they STOLE, yes STOLE, our world renowned, award winning Chemistry department.

No ethics. They have not gotten better.

29 posted on 09/04/2006 6:02:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ChadGore

I'll go with, but only if yer buyin' da two-tree beers! I'm broke. ;)


30 posted on 09/04/2006 6:03:43 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
lol

Can ya buy first round? Lef-ma-wallut-in-da-car

31 posted on 09/04/2006 6:08:25 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: radiohead

"My apologies in advance for offending anyone from Wisconsin."

The ONLY thing that saved you in my eyes is your tagline, LOL!


32 posted on 09/04/2006 6:13:24 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Ahhhh Jeeez!


33 posted on 09/04/2006 6:18:40 PM PDT by relictele
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To: MotleyGirl70

I know bubblers.... Let's go by her house. But maybe she went ooouuut. In so?

I was actually from Trivers, nort of Chiboygan.



34 posted on 09/04/2006 6:43:24 PM PDT by phantomworker (A camel is a horse designed by committee. Sofa king crazy.)
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To: SJackson

I saved this link. It is so funny.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1580034/posts


35 posted on 09/04/2006 6:44:55 PM PDT by phantomworker (A camel is a horse designed by committee. Sofa king crazy.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I had a German teacher in high school the gave a test there was a list of words to translate to German from English. No one in the class knew the English word. The word was cuke. Ya all know it?
36 posted on 09/04/2006 6:59:34 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I did use spell check!)
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To: ThomasThomas

Hello. Cucumber?


37 posted on 09/04/2006 7:02:21 PM PDT by phantomworker (A camel is a horse designed by committee. Sofa king crazy.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

http://www3.uwm.edu/Dept/FLL/linguistics/dialect/staticmaps/q_51.html

http://www3.uwm.edu/Dept/FLL/linguistics/dialect/maps.html

have fun :)


38 posted on 09/04/2006 7:03:10 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: phantomworker

That's what is told us.

Nobody in the class in Poway CA heard if before.


39 posted on 09/04/2006 7:06:35 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I did use spell check!)
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To: ThomasThomas

The teacher should have known better.


40 posted on 09/04/2006 7:10:34 PM PDT by phantomworker (A camel is a horse designed by committee. Sofa king crazy.)
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