Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66
For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.
And I wonder if the Boulder authorities are checking into his wearabouts 10 years ago. The prof seems like a ghoul to me.
I got the same sense about the prof. Here's something to think really hard about...
The CU prof's main area of study, and in fact his obsession (apart from the Ramsey case), has been that the media acts irresponsibly and by that action falsely convicts people in the publics eye.
Next thing you know this prof is tied up with some man who makes a fantastic 'confession' outside U.S. jurisdiction and look at the MSM response? Is this all a setup? If not it's a remarkable irony.
This is what worries me. If I could be certain of Karr's guilt, then obviously it wouldn't matter. But so far, all the Boulder authorities seem to have done is allow the matter of Karr to spin wildly out of control. If he's innocent of this particular crime, no matter how weird he obviously is, then this piles yet more tragedy on top of an already deeply tragic botched investigation.
Indeed, a stunning irony -- but not a coincidence. The professor is a real piece of work, he is. Barf!
In a way, and I know it's arguable, but it does provide evidence that he is indeed trying to create material for a book. This whole escapade is just too similar to the whole body of his career research to be "just an irony" alone.
It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, but if he is convicted or even tried in a rather unconvincing trial I would be following the trail back to the DA and to her relationship to the Ramseys. Perhaps they're chummy? Not to imply anything, but it would need to be checked out.
I just want to say my thanks too for all the work you do compiling the thread and links. This mystery gets deeper every day.
That's a good point. Heck, it might lead investigators to other crimes that were never solved.
Yes, it will. All reasonable people hope the murderer of that child is finally brought to justice. But no reasonable person wants to see yet another injustice done in this case.
As I've said before, if Karr is eager to get himself killed for this murder, whether or not he really did it, there's every possibility he will plead guilty. That would take the Boulder authorities off the hook. So right now, I think the odds are better than 60-40 that we may never really know the truth.
If Karr insists on pleading guilty, all the Boulder DA needs to do is file the charges, get a court date, bring the man into court and let him file his guilty plea. Then a sentencing hearing would be set. The judge might order psychiatric tests, but if Karr can convince the shrinks he's sane under the legal definition in Colorado, he fries. Like Timothy McVeigh, he might even instruct his lawyers not to file any appeals other than whatever is mandatory under Colorado law. In essence, he would be committing suicide, and we would never really know if he was or was not guilty.
So, if they do charge him, I hope he at least listens to his lawyers and pleads not guilty. I think after all this, the people of Colorado, the Ramseys, Karr, and the rest of us in the general public deserve to hear the evidence presented in a court.
Come to think of it, instead of trying to find links between Karr and the Ramseys, maybe someone should look for a nexus between the prof and the ramseys. I wonder?
You may be right. I'm no psychologist but I get the funny feeling that this guy is going to WANT to tell his story in court. He wants to convince everyone it really WAS an accident. I don't know, but that's my sense so far. For his sake, I hope he does.
Is anyone watching Nancy Grace?
Who did Karr tell that he entered the Ramsey house at 5pm and that the Ramsey's got home at 10pm? (they just said he said it in front of a room full of people - was this in Thailand? - The reporter made it sound like it was new info because he said Karr was "still" talking openly about it.)
Not outside the realm of possibility, but it assumes the real murderer is out there talking to others. I doubt that very much.
Every hard fact made public about the killing of JonBenet suggests it was done by someone with pretty intimate knowledge of the Ramseys. If not a family member, then someone close to them. If, however, despite the known evidence pointing in the other direction, her killer picked her pretty much at random, then it suggests someone who is a likely sexual serial killer. Her killer had 10 years to do similar killings again and again, yet no comparable killing has taken place anywhere else as far as we know.
In the long history of such crimes, sexual psycopaths are not known to stop at one killing unless something intervenes (such as their death or incarceration for an unrelated crime).
Yes, children have been abducted, raped and killed in the past 10 years. In nearly all of the cases the media has raised to high profile, the killer was eventually caught. And there has never been another case like the Ramsey case, where the child was garrotted in addition to being bludgeoned, accompanied by the other ritualistic things the killer did to that child. Sexual psychopath killers tend to not only kill multiple times, but also tend to repeat their rituals, even if they change the weapon of choice.
The idea that a sexual psychopath would have killed one child 10 years ago and not had the driving need to kill again is ludicrous. Karr has been free and able to go wherever he wished these past 10 years. To the best of anyone's knowledge, so far, he has not even remotely been connected with any child murder anywhere until now.
So if Karr did kill JonBenet, then he very well may be a unique murderer in the annals of sexual psychopath murderers.
CNN breaking news:
JMK made unsolicited statements to one of the LE escorts while being transferred in LA. I'm wondering what he said...
For everyone's sake, I hope that if he's charged, the case goes to trial.
>>>She also has stated that... "He was with me that night or "he" was in Atlanta, GA with his parents." (this is what she said when she initially was approached at her home and was hiding behind a door being asked questions by the media. The lady on CourtTV says that she replayed the media tape over and this is what Lara said initially.)>>>
Wait a minute, before she said she never missed a Christmas. The local family (his father's side) said he never missed a Christmas. What if he did the ole sleepover switcharoo where you tell one that you are with the other and vice versa. But that doesn't explain the kids in the supposed picture in 1996
That's a fascinating analysis. What are the odds that he had any intimate knowledge of the Ramsey family based on what we know so far? I'm figuring the odds and they look low.
I have now heard two different news bureaus report that the DNA has been badly contaminated. However, I do believe they can separate it.
One media stated directly that the contaminated sample is the one under her nails. They said that it was contaminated by a scalpel used in a previous test. I believe there are at least 3 different samples.
A reporter on scene on Paula Zahn's show, CNN, just said that they know that there was a Christmas party at the Ramseys on Dec. 23, 1996, and that Karr has said he went to a Christmas party at the Ramseys and met JonBenet and gained her trust.
And that on the day of the murder, he let himself in the house by way of a storm window that he had earlier left unlocked, and that he spent 5 hours in the house while the family was gone to the Christmas party away from the house.
I'm not saying this is correct about a Dec. 23 Christmas party at the Ramseys...I'm saying that CNN has reported on the air that they KNOW such an event occurred, and it was at this event that Karr claims to have first met JonBenet and first been in the house and left a window unlocked to get back in later.
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