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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part III)
Fox ^ | 5-8-06

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: stlnative

You're welcome.


5,521 posted on 05/17/2006 9:15:37 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Wolfstar
I have been longing for that harmonica ever since he pulled it out back during the Hollywood cut. I don't think they're allowed to use musical instruments though. :(

But, Carrie and Bo did get to play guitars at some point during a group song or something during the finale. so, maybe there is a chance.

5,522 posted on 05/17/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Thanks for the PING. I just adore him. I pray that he holds true to who he is because the rock 'n roll business can be BRUTAL to a relationship. I know, I had a boyfriend that was in the business. He had these LA models throwing themselves at him all the time. Thankfully, I wasn't too insecure about it.

Though that was the LAST musician I dated! Looking back now, MAN have I changed! Whew!


5,523 posted on 05/17/2006 9:15:50 PM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: Senator Goldwater
They do on tour, which is another reason to see them in person if you can.

I'd love to. Unfortunately, most of the time I've been at work when the tour has come into town.

5,524 posted on 05/17/2006 9:16:18 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Netizen

Cool gif -- herewith STOLEN! :)


5,525 posted on 05/17/2006 9:16:29 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: Senator Goldwater
That shot of Daddy McPhee was from last night after his daughter sang Over the Rainbow, not when Elliot was eliminated. Surely you weren't attempting to pass it off as such.

Did I say I was? No.

McLightenUp!

5,526 posted on 05/17/2006 9:17:21 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("the good and honest souls here will prevail" -- MOgirl)
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To: Netizen
But, Carrie and Bo did get to play guitars at some point during a group song or something during the finale. so, maybe there is a chance.

I hope we get to see him play the harmonic one last time on AI.

I haven't voted in four years since the first season. I'll vote for Taylor next week for sure.

5,527 posted on 05/17/2006 9:18:35 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar
"Even if Katharine wins, she won't have a recording career of consequence, because her ultimate goal is to become a movie actress"

But as Randy has said about Rueben, you need only connect with ten percent of your average AI audience to attain platinum status, given the ferocity of the pimp quotient they dole out.

Which means you almost have to try to fail to lay an egg with this type of head start.

5,528 posted on 05/17/2006 9:18:38 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: silent_jonny
"Did I say I was? No"

The implication is clear. Don't waste my time with childish doublespeak.

I have nothing further to discuss with you if your ability to converse honestly is this suspect.

5,529 posted on 05/17/2006 9:20:22 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Wolfstar

He had a hard go of it. The trip home tanked him and I suspected he was going to look ratty as a result. His blood sugar was out of whack and it showed. That Ford commercial was shot on Sunday which is supposed to be their day off. (Greedy whores at AI have to make every buck that they can). With the short time available it makes sense that some of the performances were not as good as they could be which sort of sucks for the fans at home. Why do we get an inferior product so AI can squeeze more money from a sponsor?

My wife and Monster In Law were in tears for him tonight but I see it a bit differently. I am sorry that he didn't win but I was rather humbled by how he handled his business tonight in being grateful for the chance he was given and in how he left. He sang a good Moody's Mood For Love and the Ray Charles tune he really smoked as well. When it was not about competing but rather just performing for the pleasure of it we saw so much more of him than last night.

Happy to keep you updated. When he comes home next month I'll even get you an autograph if I can get 3 minutes alone with him. You have been a great supporter and advocate for him.


5,530 posted on 05/17/2006 9:21:44 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Wolfstar
I don't think they're allowed to use musical instruments though. :(

Yeah, just wishful thinking :-/ But someone provided a mp3 link of Taylor performing Jailhouse Rock in Alabama last week and whoa! I knew he could play harmonica, but I didn't realize he is THAT good.

He's just an all around better singer/performer/musician than McPhee. She's not even in the same orbit.

5,531 posted on 05/17/2006 9:25:14 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("the good and honest souls here will prevail" -- MOgirl)
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To: Wolfstar

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/former-american-idol-contestants-making-their-mark-on-broadway-1008441.php

Former 'American Idol' contestants making their mark on Broadway

UPI News Service, 05/16/2006

Castoff contestants from Fox TV's "American Idol" talent competition are becoming golden cast members for Broadway's musicals.


An "Idol" runner-up in 2004, Diana DeGarmo, 19, turned into one of Broadway's top marquee draws when she made her Broadway debut in a supporting role in "Hairspray," The Los Angeles Times said.

"Hairspray" producer Margo Lion said "American Idol" contestants have helped Broadway up its "hip factor" and attract a younger generation of theatergoers.

Disney's "Tarzan" has 2003 "Idol" semifinalist Josh Strickland in the title role while Frenchie Davis, who was kicked off the TV show because she once worked for adult Web site, has found success in "Rent."

Tamyra Gray, who appeared on "Idol's" first season, was in the 2004 musical "Bombay Dreams," the Times noted.

"'American Idol' has absolutely become a big deal here in terms of finding new talent," New York casting director Bernard Telsey said.

Telsey, who is responsible for the Broadway stints of DeGarmo, Strickland and Davis, called "American Idol" a "televised open call."

Other "Idol" contestants making their mark in the entertainment field include 2004 finalist Amy Adams, who is touring in "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat" and 2005 contestant Jennifer Hudson, who landed a role in the big screen production of the Broadway hit, "Dreamgirls."


5,532 posted on 05/17/2006 9:25:39 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: stlnative

Thanks for those pics!


5,533 posted on 05/17/2006 9:26:04 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("the good and honest souls here will prevail" -- MOgirl)
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To: SirLinksalot

Taylor's people are rapid DI users so it's really hard to say what the truth is. Verizon has reported call spikes of up to 120 million on voting nights and I suspect that SBC is the same. Here in Richmond people in the city and close in burbs could not get through, they got dead air, fast busy signals or recordings of disconnected numbers which is indicative of serious network congestion. If 100 people here used DI for two hours they would skew the DI numbers pretty badly.

That being said, compare the DI numbers with the actuals and you can make a case that text voting plays an even larger role than previously thought.


5,534 posted on 05/17/2006 9:26:53 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: SirLinksalot
calendarlive.com

http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-et-idol16may16,0,473201.story?coll=cl-tvent

STAGE

'Idol'-ized

Broadway fortunes get a boost when "American Idol" exes join casts.

By Greg Braxton
Times Staff Writer

May 16, 2006

She was already a big star, adored by millions. But when it was announced that she would make her Broadway debut this spring, the anticipatory buzz went through the roof.

Ads with her name splashed in large, bold type popped up all over New York City. A mad scramble for tickets erupted. Fans squealed the moment she stepped on stage. Crowds mobbed her at the stage door, clamoring for autographs and pictures. And producers of the show rejoiced in their financial good fortune.

But all this fuss isn't over movie star Julia Roberts and her theatrical debut in "Three Days of Rain." One of the hottest marquee draws on Broadway this year is Diana DeGarmo, who is appearing in a supporting role in the musical "Hairspray."

Diana who?

If you have to ask, you're probably not one of the 31 million viewers who tune in to or TiVo "American Idol" every Tuesday and Wednesday, making the singing contest not only television's top-rated show but also a cultural phenomenon.

"Idol" has spawned numerous imitators. Its far-reaching influence has drawn in seasoned entertainers, such as Rod Stewart and Barry Manilow, seeking to reinvigorate their careers — as well as boost their own record sales. Then there's the record deals — not only for the winners but also for the losers; "Idol" concert tours; movie roles; trivia games; perfume; shower radios; and Pez dispensers.

And now class is trying to cash in on flash.

"Theater of the 21st century needs to appeal to a younger generation," says "Hairspray" producer Margo Lion. " 'American Idol' has certainly brought in audiences — people are dying to see these performers. It brings in a hip factor, just like Disney brought in family audiences."

Of course, success isn't always guaranteed. Last week, 2003 finalist Josh Strickland made his Broadway bow in the title role of Disney's "Tarzan," which opened to very mixed reviews. Strickland's debut on the Great White Way followed triumphs by earlier "Idol" castoffs DeGarmo, Frenchie Davis and Tamyra Gray. Davis, who was bounced from the series in 2003 following revelations that she had once worked for an adult website, landed a role in "Rent," with a featured solo in the musical's anthem "Seasons of Love." First season also-ran Gray appeared in the musical "Bombay Dreams" in 2004.

" 'American Idol' has absolutely become a big deal here in terms of finding new talent," says New York casting director Bernard Telsey, who placed DeGarmo, Strickland and Davis in Broadway shows. "Watching this show has become another way to locate incredibly talented people — it's like a televised open call. I watch it, and certain people on our staff have to watch it. Our inside joke is we root for our favorites to lose so that they can become available to us."

No longer can acerbic judge Simon Cowell's criticism of being "too Broadway" be considered a slap in the face. MTV's "Total Request Live" may have closed its doors to these "Idol" wannabes, but the Great White Way is laying out the welcome mat — and with good reason.

After losing a singing showdown to Fantasia Barrino last year, DeGarmo, who had performed in theater in Georgia ("but nothing really huge," she says), appeared in "West Side Story" in San Jose. Last February, the 19-year-old DeGarmo joined the cast of the 2003 Tony Award-winning "Hairspray," playing not the leading role in the '60s-era musical based on the 1988 John Waters film, but the smaller part of Penny Pingleton, a perky and slightly clueless teen. Just before DeGarmo signed on, "Hairspray's" net receipts were about $465,000, reported Variety. Her first week in the show, box-office figures jumped to $530,000, then $673,000, topping $855,000 for the second week in April.

When Davis first joined "Rent" in the spring of 2003, there was a noticeable boost in the box office, according to producer Jeffrey Seller.

"I really didn't know who she was, but my staff said we needed to get her," he recalls. "I didn't think an 'Idol' contestant would sell tickets. But lo and behold, for her first four months, we saw a rise in sales of about 20%. Frenchie had an immediate impact. People wanted to see her sing 'Seasons of Love.' "

But the theatrical tentacles of "American Idol" stretch far beyond New York's Times Square.

Amy Adams, a finalist from the 2004 season, is making her theatrical debut in a touring production of "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat," which opens July 11 at the Orange County Performing Arts Center. Jennifer Hudson, an "Idol" finalist last year, is in the upcoming film of the Broadway hit "Dreamgirls." "Rent" continues to audition "Idol" contestants. A production of "Ain't Misbehavin' " with former "Idols" is in the works. And producers of "The Color Purple" have also shown interest in contestants.

"The show is a very legitimate venue for talent," Seller says. "The whole thing may be totally insipid, but in a culture where it seems that football and basketball are our most important competitions, it's very heartening when the highest-rated show in America is a competition of singers. It's a good thing for the culture, and I can't help but think it's a great thing for those of us who work in the world of live performance."

The road to Broadway has become so lucrative that key "American Idol" honchos are advising contestants to explore a range of opportunities. "Many of these kids come in with tunnel vision, saying they want a hit record, and I'm telling them now there are more ways to have a wonderful career," says Debra Byrd, "Idol's" vocal coach and vocal arranger, who has guided each of the show's contestants since the series started in 2001.

Byrd says she's already positioning one of this season's three remaining finalists, Katharine McPhee, as a Broadway prospect. "She's got real potential," says Byrd, adding that after first hearing McPhee sing, she told the contestant that she sounded "like a gifted theater singer."

DeGarmo admits that her "Idol" past can provoke tension at times: "A lot of people in the industry don't think you can back it up. I've really enjoyed the challenge of having to prove myself. There comes a point where you have to stand on your own two feet rather than use that show as a crutch. I'm glad I didn't win 'American Idol.' It wasn't meant for me to win. And I think I've paid my dues. If anyone wants to challenge me on that, tell them to bring it on."

Despite her theatrical success, she isn't abandoning her pop star dreams: "My next thing is winning a Grammy."

DeGarmo ended her run in "Hairspray" this week to embark on a national tour of "Brooklyn: The Musical," in which she'll play the title role. On Sept. 8, she'll return to "Hairspray."

For Davis, being on Broadway "was always the ultimate goal. I was a theater major in college. My goal was not to be a pop star. I went on every audition I could, and I just saw 'American Idol' as just another audition."

Making her debut in "Rent," she says, was "an amazing experience. There are no words to describe how amazing it is to be part of this show. I've enjoyed my life and being on Broadway."

But don't ask her too much about "American Idol." She doesn't watch it — and she really doesn't like to look back.

"It comes up a lot. That may be how people define me, so I don't talk about it. I want them to see there's so much more to me," she says. "I've moved on."




5,535 posted on 05/17/2006 9:27:27 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: Wolfstar

Listen to Simon's comments at the very end of Taylor's audition http://www.soulpatrolshirts.com/media/change_idol.mp3


5,536 posted on 05/17/2006 9:28:10 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

I remember his wife, or her mother, telling this story at the very beginning of American Idol, when Chris was asked to go to Hollywood. He is such an awesome person and I pray he has the best luck in the world.


5,537 posted on 05/17/2006 9:28:37 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: silent_jonny
Here is Taylor, but is that a couple of FReeper Ladies hanging out in the hot tub with him?

5,538 posted on 05/17/2006 9:29:17 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Senator Goldwater
That would explain your misuse of the Daddy McPhee screen cap.

It's the most recent screencap available.

So...

McSTFU!

5,539 posted on 05/17/2006 9:31:32 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("the good and honest souls here will prevail" -- MOgirl)
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To: Shelayne

This is part of the reason I kind of hope he either goes solo, or with his current band. He aready knows the character of those guys. I'd think it would be awfully hard to be surrounded continuoulsy with a new group of guys with questionable character. I imagine there would be a lot of pressure from them to go steppin out, since they'd be doing it also. Reminds me of the movie Rock Star.


5,540 posted on 05/17/2006 9:32:45 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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