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Microsoft, Linux and Patents
AP Lawrence ^ | 04/05/2006 | AP Lawrence?

Posted on 04/05/2006 8:39:22 AM PDT by luthers_inkwell

At http://www.no-lobbyists-as-such.com/florian-mueller-blog/ballmer-linux/ we're reminded that Microsoft wants Linux dead. Ballmer is once again making noise about patents.

Unfortunately, Microsoft likely does have patents it could use against Linux. IBM can probably be replied upon to fight back on the side of Linux with its own patents - supposedly they've called Microsoft patent bluffs in the past just by pointing out that they also have stacks of patents and idle lawyers ready to look for violations by Windows code. However, Microsoft might now be willing to risk the battle.

Microsoft is not in a happy place right now. Vista is delayed, and both Apple and Linux are gnawing at its toes. The increasing interest in virtualization and particularly in package/OS bundling like VMware Player is a bumpy road for Microsoft because of OS licensing. Microsoft doesn't want its OS sales pirated, but it doesn't want to miss out on that market either. Linux apps can be shipped with a free OS; Microsoft apps cannot.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
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To: DemosCrash

Hardly. He may believe what he wants to believe...that's fine.

But I won't remain silent when he disrupts threads, completely uninvited, starts labeling people as commuists, calling them whackos, etc., then claims that we're ramming things down his throat.

Most of the time, he enters Linux threads where things are going peacefully, and people are talking, and even disagreeing respectfully about various points of the conversatiion. And then, he starts lying about everything and everyone, misrepresenting peoples position and making up "facts".

I'm not a GE stalker. It's just that he happens to hang out on all the Linux threads where I like to post, and for someone who claims that he's sick of people pushing Linux on him, he sure doesn't miss too many of them (and most of the time, he finds them before I do...it's gotten so ridiculous, that some posters now brag about being "INB4GE" -- in before Golden Eagle).


141 posted on 04/06/2006 5:42:18 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Golden Eagle

Yep.

I've asked on many occasions for you to present one lie that I have posted here on this forum.

I have not gotten an answer.

When you make accusations without proof, and in fact, stubbornly REFUSE to provide proof while repeating the accusations, that's called harrassment. You've done it a zillion times. I can document these (in addition to what is already on the lie list) if you want.


142 posted on 04/06/2006 5:49:55 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Petronski

Yep. It says '99 because that's when you joined! How hard was that?


143 posted on 04/06/2006 5:52:47 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH

You should resend to Golden Eagle.


144 posted on 04/06/2006 5:53:44 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

Grab a stick and join us in beating that dead horse.

I've been trying to get him to cite one post of mine for over a month. He won't do it.


145 posted on 04/06/2006 5:54:22 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Golden Eagle

"I don't have much problem with those who simply use it for practical purposes,"

Another lie. Why do you think I use it, GE?

You HATE Linux. That's why you attack me for doing nothing more than using it.


146 posted on 04/06/2006 5:59:37 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH

More lies of course, since you claimed you never posted on the latest linux lie threads when that's about all you have posted on.


147 posted on 04/06/2006 6:06:43 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: FLAMING DEATH

I haven't attacked you, I've simply defended myself from your attacks. They started when you swooped in to defend that leftist Richard Stallman, and started quoting off his website like that would somehow disprove he was a leftist LOL.

Having been smoked in those discussions, now you try to claim he is a radical leftist but still attack me constantly in his defense, how funny is that? Terribly, whether you realize it or not.


148 posted on 04/06/2006 6:19:11 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Poor feeble minded thing. I already wrote it out for you, typing very slowly that what you said was HYPOCRISY, not a lie.

You were confused because you didn't read. Be more careful next time.


149 posted on 04/06/2006 6:31:19 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Golden Eagle

Never claimed I didn't post there. Just told you I didn't lie.

You know I didn't either, or you'd cite the specific post where I did.

I've been trying to get you to do this for nearly a month now.


150 posted on 04/06/2006 6:33:56 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH

I linked to those threads, to my replies to your BS. You just want to play games and talk in circles now, since you've already been smoked in your direct defense of Stallman like you tried when you first started posting on these threads in defense of free software for the chinese and iranians.


151 posted on 04/06/2006 7:03:51 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Quoting from a website is defending it?

Then why do you defend communism.org so often?

BTW, I remember the posts to which you were referring. We were discussing terms of the GPL.

Discussing the particulars of the GPL is not defending Stallman. Another one for the lie list.

"Having been smoked in those discussions, now you try to claim he is a radical leftist but still attack me constantly in his defense, how funny is that? Terribly, whether you realize it or not."

Easy to say, hard to prove. Find a quote where I defended Stallman. You can't, you never could, you never will. Character assasination is easier than fact finding, I guess.


152 posted on 04/06/2006 7:21:50 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: luthers_inkwell
LI,

Dont get discouraged it was a really interesting post and as much noise as he makes on a thread there still is some signal out there. Part of what makes the OSS, Tech, and Applie ping list work is that the members find some great stories and either post them or forward them to the people who run the ping lists..
153 posted on 04/06/2006 7:23:30 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle

Not talking in circles. Asking you for specific proof about what you accuse me of.

You keep dodging, saying you linked to the thread, that the whole thread was a lie, etc. You won't address one specific comment I have made because you know you are dead wrong. It's hilarious, though. As long as you keep stalling (not Stallman, don't get hysterical) it proves that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Again, present one specific post that proves I defended Stallman, said IBM was deploying Linux, said Google was making an OS, etc. Just one.


154 posted on 04/06/2006 7:28:10 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: luthers_inkwell

Sorry this happened to your first (good) post, but I figure it will happen again if you post on the tech threads, especially if it's anything positive about Linux.

"Okay, I've made my point, I can stop now" are words you'll never hear GE utter. Ever.

There are times when we can chat without him...he took a month long hiatus earlier this year (right after Christmas) and it was positively nice around here. People still disagreed, but no one got hateful. "Reasoned, reasonable debate" was the best way to describe it. I really enjoyed the discussions here and learning about Linux during that time.

Please hang in there, at least until his next absence.


155 posted on 04/06/2006 7:38:00 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH

You tried defending Stallman and free software for US adversaries now you're reduced to insults and childish games.

You're welcome to go back to claiming everyone from OBL on down can't get free copies of linux if they want, but already showed you weren't man enough to actually discuss the facts for long, so I don't expect it.


156 posted on 04/06/2006 7:42:18 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

"You tried defending Stallman and free software for US adversaries..."

Specific post? Got one yet? Didn't think so.

"You're welcome to go back to claiming everyone from OBL on down can't get free copies of linux if they want..."

And exactly where is my post that proves this? Oh, you don't have one? Didn't think so.


157 posted on 04/06/2006 8:01:47 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Golden Eagle

You're the only one getting smoked in these discussions.


158 posted on 04/06/2006 8:04:01 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

More lies. Here you are right here, swooping in to defend free copies of US DoD software for anyone including potential US adversaries.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1530486/posts

When that didn't work you resorted to insults and talking in endless circles, just as we see here.


159 posted on 04/06/2006 8:21:26 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Here you are right here, swooping in to defend free copies of US DoD software for anyone including potential US adversaries.

Which post?

160 posted on 04/06/2006 8:28:58 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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