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Linux growth 'to outstrip Windows by a factor of 3' (Oracle Estimate)
Builder.com ^ | 30 March 2006 | Matthew Overington

Posted on 03/31/2006 2:02:29 PM PST by N3WBI3

Over the next five years, Oracle is predicting annual growth of 12 percent for the open source OS

Linux adoptions are to grow in the next three to five years at nearly triple the rate of Windows, according to Oracle.

In an interview at the LinuxWorld conference in Sydney, the database company suggested Linux deployments had grown beyond an adoption phase, and were now becoming ubiquitous in small and large businesses alike.

Monica Kumar, director of Oracle's Linux programme office, pointed to the open source operating system becoming mainstream as "businesses are looking to Linux as a way to save money," and quotes a projected annual growth rate of 11.7 percent over the next five years. The software heavyweight claims analysts project Windows' growth over the same period as being 3.6 percent per year.

"We don't come across many big companies these days that don't have a Linux strategy, which is in contrast to the market three years ago," says Kumar.

It's not just enterprise customers leading the charge, though. "Small [companies] are now betting their businesses on Linux".

Kumar points to market awareness and a growing number of Linux-savvy developers in developing countries to drive the uptake, and suggests open standards are a huge driver.

"Linux is mainstream. There are a lot of questions that we used to get maybe two years ago where people used to say: 'Is Linux really ready for the enterprise? Can you give me some proof points? Who's deploying it? ...I need to prove the ROI or TCO to my CIO about Linux'. It's been two years and I don't get that question anymore."

She also goes on to point out a shift in adoption drivers: from the developers at the front line to the CIOs.

"We're now seeing adoption driven from the CIOs, instead of from the individual developers, and it's allowing Linux to pick up momentum."

The company has recently released a free version of its flagship database product in an attempt to woo developers towards Oracle technologies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: capitalism; gebait; linux; opensource; oracle
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To: Golden Eagle; JeffAtlanta
For GE:

Trying to pad your stats with virtual servers is lame, that's still just one actual Linux server from the hardware standpoint.

Which is why my grandadddy always said there are lies, damn lies, and statistics... Fact is the discussion was about *deployments* not hardware sold, you're the one who is trying to bring in meaningless numbers about hardware into a discussion about deployments. Do you think Oracle cares if you purchase a server running Linux or if you buy a big box with no OS and put ESX on it to host a Linux system?

But hey, I'm all for fairness The original question was this: Is the Linux Growth superiority to MS translate into any significance when existing deployment share is taken into account..

Just for the sake of argument Ill give you 70% and Ill take 21 for Linux...

Year 1
Total | 1000
MS% | 70%
Linux % | 21%
|
MS Total | 700
Linux Tot | 210
Other Tot | 90

| MS % Gro | 4%
Linux % Gro | 12%
Other Grow* | 2%
| Year Two | MS Tot | 725.2
Linux Tot | 235.2
Other Tot | 91.8

| MS # Grow | 25.2
Linux # Grow | 25.2

Other Grow | 1.8

|
New Market Share |
MS | 68.9%
Linux | 22.4%
Other | 8.7%

So the answer to the question even with your twisting of the facts is yes, Even with existing market shares taken into account the growth numbers given would mean the increase in shipments between Linux and MS will be equal, thats pretty significant..

For Jeff:

I hope this answered your question.

21 posted on 04/01/2006 10:14:50 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: zeugma
Zeg,

Look at the IBM P-Series on AIX5.2 we brought one to play around with and the HMC is *really* nice..
22 posted on 04/01/2006 10:16:13 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: zeugma
Zeg,

ESX is not, linux! I know the install uses anaconda and looks remarkably like the RHEL setup but other than a Linux Console which is itself a virtual process the kernel is not related to Linux...
23 posted on 04/01/2006 10:19:31 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

I'm really a dunce when it comes to understanding operating systems. Of course my laptop has windows, but I've been seriously thinking of changing to Linux. Is it a difficult process or does it just come down to removing windows and installing Linux. Can I do it myself or should I have a professional do it?


24 posted on 04/01/2006 10:22:11 AM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: N3WBI3
MS 68.9%

Yep, exactly like I said, ~70%.

25 posted on 04/01/2006 10:30:38 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: abigailsmybaby
abigail,

The first thing I would say is don't leap before you look. While Ill be the first to say I rarely see a desktop Linux wont work out of the box on laptops can be another issue. Here is what I suggest you do..

If you know how to burn CD's try different Live distributions like the ones found Here to see which ones support all your hardware and which ones you like working with. It may be you don't Like Linux and by going the live CD route you still have your windows box..

26 posted on 04/01/2006 10:56:51 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle

Wow the content of that whole post went right over your head...


27 posted on 04/01/2006 10:57:29 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
ESX is not, linux! I know the install uses anaconda and looks remarkably like the RHEL setup but other than a Linux Console which is itself a virtual process the kernel is not related to Linux...

That's not what the marketing droids said at a couple of seminars I've been to. 

I'll have to look at their site, but I'm pretty darn sure that under ESX, Linux runs on the metal, which drives the VMs. 

28 posted on 04/01/2006 11:09:56 AM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: N3WBI3

Thank you very much. I'll do that.


29 posted on 04/01/2006 11:29:21 AM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: N3WBI3

Nah, I just see right through your BS about virtual servers all being Linux, ziggy already admitted many if not most of his virtual servers are running Windows.

~70% of all new servers ship with Windows, and have for years. Your claim of 40% was just another laughable linux lie we knew to expect when you created the thread.


30 posted on 04/01/2006 2:01:01 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Do you not unstained the difference between a deployment and a sale of hardware running an OS? What do you think matters more to oracle.

Your claim of 40%

I said nothing about server shipped with, as I said you are trying to through around meaningless numbers to confuse the situation...

I also said 'think' as in I was not sure.

I also showed you that even if there were zero virtual machines in the world and every box ran *only* what it was shipped with and no servers were sold without an operating system *STILL* the 12-3.6 difference in sales growth means this year the number of new Linux sales versus new windows sales will be equal *and* Linux will gain market share while MS will lose it..

You sat there with a confused look on your face and *still* tried to talk about numbers with no bearing on the conversation.

31 posted on 04/01/2006 2:15:34 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: zeugma
I'm pretty darn sure that under ESX, Linux runs on the metal

My opinion is this is more Linux BS, it never seems to end.

32 posted on 04/01/2006 2:16:40 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma

One of the other engineers in my shop is ESX certified Im going off of what he has told me. That it uses linux for a console but the kernel of the ESX system is not Linux..


33 posted on 04/01/2006 2:26:51 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
It's pretty funny watching you celebrate how linux is cannibalizing Unix profits, since you don't even realize it's leaving M$ with a larger percentage share of overall server software dollars. You somehow think you're damaging Microsoft, when you're actually damaging the *nix market's total dollars instead.

It's why we see reports like this - while unit growth in 2006 should match the growth seen in 2005, revenue growth is only expected to be an anemic 1% compared to 4% last year.

Who's losing all that money? Not Microsoft.

34 posted on 04/01/2006 3:08:40 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3
One of the other engineers in my shop is ESX certified Im going off of what he has told me. That it uses linux for a console but the kernel of the ESX system is not Linux..

I'll buy that. We'd be better off trusting him than a marketing droid. I'll be looking into it all more in the future anyway, as we're going to be using a heck of a lot of it in our shop. 

35 posted on 04/01/2006 3:23:42 PM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: abigailsmybaby
Thank you very much. I'll do that.

I'll second N3WBI3's suggestion of trying out one of the "live" cds. There are many of them out there that are really good. If you run into something weird, feel free to post into one of these tech threads. There are several folks who do unix here, and we don't bite (much).

The biggest problem you will likely run into is wireless networking, If your laptop has built in wireless. You could get lucky and have drivers for the wireless built in. The laptop I got with my last laptop upgrade at work happens to have the Intel 2200BG chipset on the wireless, and it worked like magic. I was pretty stoked, as I've had to mess with "ndiswrappers" which is a workaround that uses windows drivers for many chipsets that aren't supported far more often than I'd like.

If your wireless isn't supported out of the box and you want to go ahead with it anyway, send me a freepmail, and I'll try to help.

36 posted on 04/01/2006 3:48:36 PM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: Golden Eagle
When you actually have something to contribute to the thread, let me know.

Rather than garbage up the thread with your usual crap and bilge, why don't you take the time to explain to us why it was that you became a flaming troll after May of 03?

I'm sure everyone else would be interested as well. 

37 posted on 04/01/2006 3:59:12 PM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Ping to #37.


38 posted on 04/01/2006 4:01:17 PM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: zeugma

Yeah, I'd like to know that too. He's a fascinating study, that's for sure.


39 posted on 04/01/2006 7:36:10 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (And now for something completely different: www.donaldlancow.com)
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To: Golden Eagle; N3WBI3; zeugma; JeffAtlanta; Tribune7; FLAMING DEATH
^^^^^^^^^^Yep, exactly like I said, ~70%.^^^^^^^^^^^^

GE, why do you constantly lie?

Report: Windows Server to own 60% market share by 2008

compared to just 29 percent for Linux.(by 2008)

In other words, that means they don't have 70% now. Unless you want to base your argument that their share is shrinking.

40 posted on 04/01/2006 7:44:23 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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