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Linux growth 'to outstrip Windows by a factor of 3' (Oracle Estimate)
Builder.com ^ | 30 March 2006 | Matthew Overington

Posted on 03/31/2006 2:02:29 PM PST by N3WBI3

Over the next five years, Oracle is predicting annual growth of 12 percent for the open source OS

Linux adoptions are to grow in the next three to five years at nearly triple the rate of Windows, according to Oracle.

In an interview at the LinuxWorld conference in Sydney, the database company suggested Linux deployments had grown beyond an adoption phase, and were now becoming ubiquitous in small and large businesses alike.

Monica Kumar, director of Oracle's Linux programme office, pointed to the open source operating system becoming mainstream as "businesses are looking to Linux as a way to save money," and quotes a projected annual growth rate of 11.7 percent over the next five years. The software heavyweight claims analysts project Windows' growth over the same period as being 3.6 percent per year.

"We don't come across many big companies these days that don't have a Linux strategy, which is in contrast to the market three years ago," says Kumar.

It's not just enterprise customers leading the charge, though. "Small [companies] are now betting their businesses on Linux".

Kumar points to market awareness and a growing number of Linux-savvy developers in developing countries to drive the uptake, and suggests open standards are a huge driver.

"Linux is mainstream. There are a lot of questions that we used to get maybe two years ago where people used to say: 'Is Linux really ready for the enterprise? Can you give me some proof points? Who's deploying it? ...I need to prove the ROI or TCO to my CIO about Linux'. It's been two years and I don't get that question anymore."

She also goes on to point out a shift in adoption drivers: from the developers at the front line to the CIOs.

"We're now seeing adoption driven from the CIOs, instead of from the individual developers, and it's allowing Linux to pick up momentum."

The company has recently released a free version of its flagship database product in an attempt to woo developers towards Oracle technologies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: capitalism; gebait; linux; opensource; oracle
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1 posted on 03/31/2006 2:02:31 PM PST by N3WBI3
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2 posted on 03/31/2006 2:03:11 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

To be fair, isn't measuring rate of growth sort of misleading when it comes comparing large bases to smaller bases?

In other words, a county with 1,000 people would grow by 10% if only 100 additional people moved in, while a county with 100,000 would only grow by .1% is an addtional 100 people migrated to the area.

I'm not saying that the disparity of the install bases of Windows and Linux is as great as my example but I would assume that Windows is much larger.


3 posted on 03/31/2006 2:19:27 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: N3WBI3
Good news, thanks. I moved from developing proprietary Unix systems to Linux about six years ago, focusing on the big server end. It's nice to know I won't be lacking for work for a while.
4 posted on 03/31/2006 2:38:12 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The biggest Lie of all: that we are the Master of Knowledge.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Except that Linux is not that much smaller a server base than windows. While its true Windows has a lager base on the server its not by more than 2 times. Linux is anywhere between 15 and 25% of the market, I think windows floats around 40%. Most market share is decided by revenue which of course will mess up the numbers because for every purchased copy of Linux running on a server there are tens dozens of free ones out there.

Whats significant here is the 5th straight year of double digit revenue growth for Linux and a continuing healthy growth in deployments
5 posted on 03/31/2006 2:42:36 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

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6 posted on 03/31/2006 2:56:54 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: N3WBI3
(Oracle Estimate)

To be honest, unless that's the oracle from The Matrix, I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

7 posted on 03/31/2006 3:26:30 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: ThePythonicCow; N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Salo

Anyone looked at DesktopBSD....looks like Linux to , me.

Something must be different, but how different is it...?

Runs KDE.


8 posted on 03/31/2006 4:12:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: JeffAtlanta
To be fair, isn't measuring rate of growth sort of misleading when it comes comparing large bases to smaller bases?

Absolutely. Measurements like that are meaningless in light of the ubiquity of MS-Windows. 

The point of the article is valid though, in that you're seeing a lot more companies that were leery of Linux becoming adopters, starting with back-end processing. At my company, they are investing heavily in Linux, and interestingly enough, it's largely on the MS side of the house. They are using VMWare and running multiple instances of Windows on them for those services that are currently residing on single-tasked boxes. Linux runs directly on the hardware, then MS-Windows runs above it. It makes management of MS-Windows much easier.


We'll be doing essentially the same thing on the Unix side of the house when we start a big datacenter move in a couple of months.

9 posted on 03/31/2006 4:44:37 PM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: N3WBI3
Except that Linux is not that much smaller a server base than windows. While its true Windows has a lager base on the server its not by more than 2 times. Linux is anywhere between 15 and 25% of the market, I think windows floats around 40%. Most market share is decided by revenue which of course will mess up the numbers because for every purchased copy of Linux running on a server there are tens dozens of free ones out there.

True, but they weren't really specific in their statements that they were talking mostly about the server side of things. I wouldn't be particularly suprised if that were the case though. 

10 posted on 03/31/2006 4:46:26 PM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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What varietty of Linux is running?


11 posted on 03/31/2006 5:13:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: N3WBI3
Server, desktop, or embedded?

Shrink-wrapped purchases, vendor packages, or Internet nodes estimated with web-bots?

The proliferation of Linux in the embedded space (such as most of the routers on the shelves at Best Buy) means that in a few years most people will have Linux in their homes and not even know it.

12 posted on 03/31/2006 5:13:59 PM PST by impatient
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What you see when you look at a desktop PC running BSD or Linux is the desktop aka windowing software, which for most folks is either KDE or Gnome. The underlying operating system kernel can be either BSD or Linux, and the command line tools beloved by us old hackers will be a rich variety of stuff, including quite a few important tools such as the GNU C compiler (gcc) and the emacs editor.

The end user of a GUI desktop will not know whether it's a Linux or BSD kernel. With a little experience, they will notice whether it is KDE or Gnome.

The word "Linux" has also come to mean the combination of a Linux kernel plus the GNU (and many others) tools and either KDE or Gnome desktop software. Which is fine; only purists refuse to recognize the way that words morph meaning over time.

If your hardware is supported and if you aren't pushing some of the security and stability features more often seen on the BSD side, then you won't see much difference.

Linux kernels cover a wider variety of hardware, and are evolving at a faster (much faster in recent times) rate. So for special hardware like embeddeds (e.g. Tivo and Linksys routers) and 512 processor monsters (e.g. SGI Altix), Linux is the only way to go. BSD just doesn't evolve fast enough to cover these new hardware platforms. But for web servers, BSD provides a rock solid, secure platform that is hard to beat without alot of custom work.

The other key difference between BSD and Linux is their source license. The BSD license has fewer strings attached - you don't have to provide others with the source code for your changes when you release product using such licensed software. This has led to Linux remaining a single code base, covering an extremely wide range of systems, from wrist watches to the worlds largest supercomputers, while BSD has tended to fracture into a few competing variants covering a narrower range of platforms.

13 posted on 03/31/2006 5:53:14 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The biggest Lie of all: that we are the Master of Knowledge.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Thanks for the reply!


14 posted on 03/31/2006 6:38:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's a kernel specific to VMWare. I'm not really sure what kind of mods they make, but since they are distributing it, they have to make any kernel mods publicly available. From what I've seen, it is highly tuned for its job as basically a supervising process.
15 posted on 03/31/2006 6:51:44 PM PST by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: N3WBI3

Yes, please put me on the ping list.


16 posted on 03/31/2006 7:27:08 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: N3WBI3
Linux is anywhere between 15 and 25% of the market, I think windows floats around 40%.

Typical BS from you. Windows ships on ~70% of all new servers purchased, and has for years.

17 posted on 04/01/2006 8:02:17 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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Windows dominated all others with 69.4 percent of the OS server market.

I am assuming you get that from this:

Shipments do not equal Deployments:

Example: I purchased One large server w/out an OS and put ESX on it. That one server now runs several Dozen Linux server. Depending on what version of Linux I would run none of those would be counted as 'shipments'. So one Server I purchased which runs upwards of 30 Linux servers would count for *zero*. We have already seen this week that CentOS is being used by ISP's, those were boxes purchased without Operating systems (or with windows) and wiped to have Cent on them again not counting towards 'shipments'..

Even if this article was not two years old: Long story short if Windows ships with 70% of sold server operating systems they are likely far beneath that in actual deployments..

So keep post two sentence sound bites from articles that are nearly two years old, without any actual understanding of enterprise architecture (which you display almost daily) your statements are even more meaningless than your sources..

18 posted on 04/01/2006 9:34:06 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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Well, it's shaking up Redmond.

MSFT To Embrace Open Source

Gates Gives Blessing To Hiring Of Stallman

Steve Out, Dick In

19 posted on 04/01/2006 9:44:15 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: N3WBI3

Trying to pad your stats with virtual servers is lame, that's still just one actual Linux server from the hardware standpoint. Windows being preloaded on ~70% of server shipments is consistent to this day as well, if you think you have stats that prove otherwise then let's see them. Give us a link this time, instead of just more hot air.


20 posted on 04/01/2006 9:50:47 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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