Posted on 03/08/2006 5:49:56 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
Michael Dell, chairman of Dell Inc. believes in offering Linux on the desktop, server, and workstation. What he doesn't believe in, for now, is giving Linux full support on the desktop. In an exclusive interview, Dell explained his company's Linux desktop strategy to DesktopLinux.com's Steven J. Vaughan Nichols.
"People are always asking us to support Linux on the desktop, but the question is: 'Which Linux are you talking about?'," Dell asked.
(Excerpt) Read more at desktoplinux.com ...
This has been explained to you enough times before. Anyone in the world can use and build a Linux system. The Chinese put out Red Flag, which is based on freely available RH Enterprise source packages and Asianux.
Torvalds did a complete 180 in less than a week on whether he will use Stallman's new license, if you call that standing up to Stallman no wonder you let him walk all over you too. Sorry to be so harsh but you are so weak in your defenses of these people I have no time to sugar coat it for you. Either you allow these leftists to continue to dominate open source, or you move to products that don't use their license. So far you seem totally content with Stallman/GPL exactly as is, so you should expect some harsh criticism.
I just explained this to you a few weeks ago. Stallman's following is small (the FSF), the FSF is NOT the same thing as the OSS community as a whole--but a small section of it, the GPL v.3 is highly political, and Torvalds rejected the then-current draft handed to him.
Your "180 degree turn" wasn't a turn at all. Linus simply said he wouldn't rule out the new license--assuming major revisions were done.
Finally, what's with your obsession with China and Communism?
"Finally, what's with your obsession with China and Communism?"
Good luck getting an answer. He's only interested in flinging accusations at others, even if he has to lie about what they are actually saying, as I've proven numerous times on this and other threads. I've asked him to point to specific posts to prove his accusations toward me, but he ignores me, because he knows he can't back up his totally baseless, intentionally dishonest lies.
Getting him to defend his own illogical and ignorant points of view is impossible; he'll obfuscate and toss red herrings until the cows come home, because that's all he can do.
He wants to accuse everyone else, but heaven forbid if he should be accountable for any of his own points of view. He even denies his own words if you push him far enough, choosing to call you a liar instead of owning up to what he himself has said. He's the textbook definition of an angry liberal - his debate style is "listen to me and shut he hell up, and don't dare question anything I say".
He's a pathological liar and is worthy of nothing more than belittling, insults and his own personal kryptonite - the truth.
From now on, I'm telling it like it is. He's a hateful, repugnant human being and deserves to have his own verbal defecations repeatedly thrown up in his face. I don't care how much he wrings his hands and sobs about namecalling, trying to get us all to feel sorry for him while he continues to spew his lies and dishonesty. If he can't take it, he can leave.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, he's a real poopy head.
Yes, we know, we've heard it before, them getting operating systems is only okay if American businesses make money off of it.
So you don't have a problem with the "copyleftists" who want to "make all proprietary software obsolete"?
They don't really bother me because I know they won't succeed. The GPL3 draft is showing the rift between the ideologues and the rest of the world. They will marginalize themselves.
Torvalds did a complete 180 in less than a week on whether he will use Stallman's new license,
You need to keep reading. He says the draft as it stands now is unacceptable. He has never changed that position. But he, unlike you, recognizes that it is a draft and will change, so he can't rule out agreeing with the final version -- whatever that may be.
Sorry to be so harsh but you are so weak in your defenses
That's fine. It's easy to destroy your arguments since you don't do the most basic of research, as with Linus' positions.
He can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
Ah, the truth finally comes out, you see no problem with Communist China or giving them advanced technology free of charge. Well since you've been hiding from reality, living your own life free of concern, oblivious to the dangers of the real world, I'll tell. It's a brutal, totalitarian government run by one party, the communist party, that kills babies before they are born just because they are female, that tortures and kills people simply for practicing their religions, such as Christianity, jails those that attempt free speech, takes property away from farmers and forces them to work like slaves, denies everyone the right to vote, and offers no chance at reform. That's what's wrong, among other things, since you've obviously lived such a sheltered life you have no idea about the ways of the world. Will this stop you from asking foolish naive questions, or continuing to support free technology transfers to these barbarians, or other barbarians across the globe? I highly doubt it. Because you obviously believe there is no danger in transfering technology to them, completely for free, that they should be given the same rights we have, to do with whatever they chose, no matter how evil it may be, and you could care less as long as you get some free stuff too.
It's a brutal, totalitarian government run by one party, the communist party, that kills babies before they are born just because they are female, that tortures and kills people simply for practicing their religions, such as Christianity, jails those that attempt free speech, takes property away from farmers and forces them to work like slaves, denies everyone the right to vote, and offers no chance at reform.
And you have no problem with them getting operating systems as long as US businesses make money off it. Free is somehow evil though.
This of course is a complete lie, as I've made it clear for years I don't want any technology going to communist China, just as none went to the USSR nor to Cuba to this day.
Free is somehow evil though.
Free technology for China (and Iran, Cuba etc) is definitely wrong, contrary to the history and principles of this country, and in perfect lockstep with liberal, socialistic, and communistic thinking.
BS. You've shown that technology going to China is completely OK if there's money involved time and time again. Your posting history proves it.
Ah, the truth finally comes out, China can get all the technology it wants if they pay us money for it. Your posting history shows this basic theme. Which is it, no tech or selling tech? The evidence you show clearly points to the latter.
This would make you by definition a hypocrite.
Well since you've been hiding from reality, living your own life free of concern, oblivious to the dangers of the real world, I'll tell.
It's you who's been hiding from reality. How many of us have explained to you over the last umpteenth months on countless threads the reasons why when open-source means anyone can access and improve on it freely, it means anybody?
I'll tell. It's because OSS is in your eyes the root of all evil, while MS and other proprietary companies have to be good--even as these companies sit in a position to sell out technical secrets that can easily affect, disrupt, or destroy our entire electronic infrastructure.
It's a brutal, totalitarian government run by one party, the communist party, that kills babies before they are born just because they are female, that tortures and kills people simply for practicing their religions, such as Christianity, jails those that attempt free speech, takes property away from farmers and forces them to work like slaves, denies everyone the right to vote, and offers no chance at reform.
That's fine. But why did MS and other proprietary companies push to make (and later, keep) Communist China a Most-Favored-Nation status nation if these atrocities happen?
That's what's wrong, among other things, since you've obviously lived such a sheltered life you have no idea about the ways of the world.
It seems we're more aware of the world than you are--every time you bring up these talking points, it's almost too funny how we always seem to poke big holes in them.
I may be just a college student, but I tell you, my life hasn't been sheltered in the least. It's not as bad as some people I know have had it, but pampered (which is what you imply) isn't the case. After all, I grew up in your typical middle-class household in suburbia in the Midwest.
Will this stop you from asking foolish naive questions, or continuing to support free technology transfers to these barbarians, or other barbarians across the globe? I highly doubt it.
Will this stop you from resulting to lowbrow emotional appeals to get us to drop our support for Linux and OSS? I highly doubt it.
Because you obviously believe there is no danger in transfering technology to them, completely for free, that they should be given the same rights we have, to do with whatever they chose, no matter how evil it may be, and you could care less as long as you get some free stuff too.
Because we believe that by making software open-source, other individuals and groups can use their talents to give us all a better product. We may not agree with who's producing or what's being done with OSS. However, with open-source software, we also get the ability to choose. If I don't like software being produced by the ChiComms, I don't have to use it--I can either live without it or find an alternative.
This choice is the beauty of open-source. On the other hand, this is all lost upon you simply because we're not getting paid directly by the Chinese for it.
You have mail.
More lies from you, a never ending stream.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1432278/posts
"Choice" huh, spoken like a true liberal. But you can save your breath, since you still obviously support giving technology to the Chinese and Iranians and ever other potentially hostile government on earth, completely free of charge, or you would be on my side of the argument. You're a total sellout, with no remose, shame, or concern.
Personal choice is generally associated with Conservatism, with the primary major objection being Abortion.
Of course, you sir are just too ignorant to listen to us. We've explained why everyone benefits, and how it's not just giving our best software to the Chinese. They're using tools everyone else (and in the past, even MS) has been able to us for the past three or four decades.
Obviously the government doesn't see any concern, or the OSS would have made the government's "forbidden to export" list--then it wouldn't be released OSS.
Part of it too is that you don't seem to want to deny that Microsoft was doing more or less the same thing several years ago. You might have some more credibility if you actually denounced MS for dumping their software to the Communist Party in China.
Since your posts are the usual bloviating, please do not post to me any more on this thread.
It's clear you have nothing else to say. Therefore, and in case you missed my latest comment, do not post to me any more on this thread.
Clinton ended most all export control laws on software, if you weren't a total liberal stooge or actually knew anything about these subjects or my posting history you might know that.
You might have some more credibility if you actually denounced MS for dumping their software to the Communist Party in China.
I just gave you the link to a thread I created on this website lamblasting Bill Gates for his ties to China. Of course you either refused to look at it, or refuse to now admit it, although either one proves what a fraud you are.
It's clear you have nothing else to say. Therefore, and in case you missed my latest comment,
Plug your ears and eyes and go run and hide now, maybe one day you'll be man enough to admit when you're wrong. Maybe.
So, explain to me how this justifies making up statements and attributing them to me?
You need to understand a fundamental...no one listens to you because you are, at the very core of your being, a liar. And, it's all out in the open for all to see...the way you won't provide proof of your accusations toward me, and the way you deny your own words.
You have no credibility because you've shown time and again that you'll say anything to try to prove your point, facts be damned.
HA HA! The foul mouth wannabee finally shows up to fling a few more insults, since he doesn't even know the terminology well enough to make a valid argument. He should go study Stallman's Manifesto some more, maybe one day he'll even know the difference between his license and his faq next time he goes around touting them as the gospel.
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