Posted on 02/15/2006 6:06:44 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
Survey: Research has found that administrators are more productive when working with Linux servers rather than those running Windows, but not everyone agrees with the results
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you should try PClinuxOS aka pclos. maybe you will not be filled with such anger.
Must I school you again? http://howto.homelinux.net/swf/yum.html The only difference in this flash between updating and installing is I would click the update tab and the hit an update button...
I saw a Red Hat system - supposedly the best - take six hours to complete up2date.
Funny I freshly installed an XP Pro system the other day and it took about as long.. You're leaving out little factors like (what release was it?, what was the network speed?, what was the disk configuration?) these and any number of other things can make *ANY* system take a long time to update.
HAHAHAHAHAAAA! You want me to go to some hacker website for my security updates? LMAO, what kind of an idiot would do that? And you wanting users to do something exactly that stupid shows how little you really understand about how to properly secure a system.
Apples and Oranges, this Linux system already had everything loaded on it, and was only behind a couple of months on patches, and it still took 6 hours to get everything. P4 2.6 GHz system with a 1.5 Mhz download capacity, but up2date wallowed along at 45k the whole time.
If the O/S install media included SP4, like they all do now, only 1 as well. But if I'm a couple of months behind on patches, it only takes about 15 minutes to get up to date, while I personally witnessed this Red Hat box take 6 hours.
Take for example the Creative Labs Audigy and X-Fi series sound cards. There are Windows 2000 and XP drivers, but NO available Linux drivers (at least from Creative's web site).
And every time we've compared the 2 on Netcraft, Microsoft has had a longer uptime than Red Hat, so your point is?
Y'all are talking one desktop OS vs. another.
Try putting Microsoft in DataCom next to AIX, HP-UX or Solaris and see what you get.
Windows gets creamed every time.
No, I wasn't. I was talking about the parent companies, as in www.microsoft.com verses www.redhat.com, where microsoft.com has had a longer uptime every time we've checked on Netcraft. So let's check www.sun.com. 53 days:
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.sun.com
hp.com, 47 days:
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.hp.com
ibm.com, unknown, which usually means very recently:
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.ibm.com
microsoft.com, 119 days, as typical, the longest of anyone.
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.microsoft.com
I'll save you the trouble of checking apache.org. 4 days ago:
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.apache.org
LOL! This test of yours is on the external web servers only? One server for each?
Got some stats on the payroll servers?
Ha!
LOL!
Ah, well.
Linux as a whole I'm not all that impressed with. It's fine on the workstation and all, just like Windows... but not really worthy of being in the Server Room. *BSD stuff comes fairly close, but not quite.
SCO, IRIX and DGUX give me a rash.
But let me be crystal clear again on this point: Windows *anything* has no place in DataCom.
Does what we need, perfectly well. We used to have DEC, HP, Sun, IBM, SGI and even Cray running everything. Now we just have a few of that, with only Sun and IBM left at all. We would have never dumped all those boxes if they worked as well for us as what replaced them. And for the same amount of admin money, we can have more people that are easier to get along with.
You're all set.
Exactly why we chose those two. But, they're too difficult for most to use. I've been doing this since I was entering octal in on front panel switches, and the quicker I can point and click to get everything to work the better off I am. Computers should be for our aid, to make things easier, first and formost. Everything else is just the pain the A that comes along with it. You have to really need those three or four 9's to put yourself through that much torture. And few places do.
I started with flip dials and pixie lights, but I know what you mean.
the quicker I can point and click
Now you are talking like a standard issue user, which is fine. That's my customer.
Your wording indicates that you had some choice in the matter, which suggests a managerial role of some sort. In that case, allow me to congratulate you.
I've had to mediate between IBM and Sun before, from a Sys Admin level, and I can say that you have made an outstanding decision.
^^^^^^^^^take six hours to complete up2date.^^^^^^^^^^^
A one stop shop even with that much time still takes less time than a windows box.(assuming your number of 6 hours is accurate)
What applications do you run? 12 separate apps + OS you said?
Make your list of all the websites you're gonna have to go to to get it all updated. How long's that gonna take?
Yup, I did it in one place.
Linux is easier.
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