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Posted on 11/03/2005 10:28:48 PM PST by TheMadLurker

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To: Victoria Delsoul; NicknamedBob

Just offering the information. I'm a stickler for fidelity to the text, and therefore I'm rarely happy with a movie made from a book I've liked, but that doesn't mean it's not a good movie -- just that I'm a crank!

I read "The Bridge on the River Kwai" after I saw the movie, or I'm sure it would have ruined it for me :-).


8,821 posted on 12/17/2005 6:39:48 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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To: NicknamedBob
I find it interesting that some of the criticism is the departure from Lewis' overt comparisons to Christianity. I wonder to what extent he made that similarity deliberate.

Good point.

8,822 posted on 12/17/2005 6:39:51 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Good place to be *from* ...


8,823 posted on 12/17/2005 6:40:31 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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To: Tax-chick
Just offering the information.

I appreciated, thanks.

8,824 posted on 12/17/2005 6:42:13 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

It's a matter, (overt expressions of Christian themes), that doesn't play too well with today's audiences. I'm wondering if that is the reason it was muted.


8,825 posted on 12/17/2005 6:44:20 PM PST by NicknamedBob (To all my FRiends on Free Republic, *Merry Christmas*,& to all my Jewish Friends, *Merry Christmas*)
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To: Tax-chick
It's been a long time (decades) since I last read the book, so a number of fine detail changes would have been lost on me.

The reviewer nearly lost all credibility though when, referring to the Passion, he said: but without the troubling arguments about anti-Semitism or the almost unbearable brutality. ("Hit piece coming...")

I admit, there were elements of the movie I didn't much like. As the reviewer noted, Peter seemed a bit too hesitant. I, for one, did not much like the portrayal of the White Witch; she was little like what I'd imagined when reading the book. (She seemed too much 21st century American in some way I can't describe.) I thoroughly disliked the portrayal of her castle.

And yet... the Edmund of the movie was generally more credible than the nasty creature I'd envisioned when reading the book.

There are many minute points on which I disagree with the reviewer. Was it 100% faithful to the book? Not to my memory. And the battle scenes seemed almost to be lifted from LOTR.

But somehow this movie is not (yet) displacing the mental images I'd formed as a boy on first reading the book. Sad experience has taught me generally to avoid movies based on books I have already read. But I was not disappointed at seeing this.

(I keep wondering, though, if somebody wasn't having a wee bit of fun at Sassenach expense: the pennants in the camp had a "lion rampant gules upon a field or" -- upright red lion upon a yellow background -- the flag of Scotland!)

8,826 posted on 12/17/2005 6:45:30 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: NicknamedBob
It's a matter, (overt expressions of Christian themes), that doesn't play too well with today's audiences. Hollywood.

There, fixed it.

8,827 posted on 12/17/2005 6:46:56 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: sionnsar

I thought there were lots of arguments over anti-Semitism in "The Passion," which I have not seen, due to a low tolerance for brutality. It didn't seem to me that Mr. Greydanus was saying that the film was anti-Semitic, just that there were arguments.


8,828 posted on 12/17/2005 6:47:14 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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To: Tax-chick; Victoria Delsoul
Good place to be *from* ...

I don't think was of either tribe - he only converted to Christianity in adulthood.

8,829 posted on 12/17/2005 6:48:43 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: NicknamedBob

You could be right. Religious themes, especially Christianity is poorly received by the intelligentsia and movie critics. Sometimes, it's better to show something a bit subtle and get a good audience.


8,830 posted on 12/17/2005 6:49:18 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: NicknamedBob
At the very least, the film gives a good visual plane upon which to base a subsequent reading of the books.

Interesting. I've not read any books for the first time after seeing the movie on which they're based...

8,831 posted on 12/17/2005 6:49:28 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: sionnsar

In reading the review posted above, that Hollywood influence kept nagging at me.

"... because of Hollywood ..." a voice kept saying...


8,832 posted on 12/17/2005 6:49:49 PM PST by NicknamedBob (To all my FRiends on Free Republic, *Merry Christmas*,& to all my Jewish Friends, *Merry Christmas*)
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To: Tax-chick

People are going to find ways to be sensitive IMO if they want to.
"The Passion" was followed pretty close to what the Bible says.
Was brutal, but is the history anti-Semitic considering Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi? I don't think so.


8,833 posted on 12/17/2005 6:50:02 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Wouldn't just about everyone in Northern Ireland be "culturally" either Catholic or Protestant? Even if you're not a religious believer, a polarized environment promotes taking sides based on *some* distinction.


8,834 posted on 12/17/2005 6:51:07 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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To: Tax-chick
Anyway, the Democrats have said that they investigated the Crucifixion and have determined it was Bush's fault and would be grounds for impeachment. :-)
8,835 posted on 12/17/2005 6:51:13 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Tax-chick

In Ireland, any of the terrorists participating in the killing would not be any form of Christian in fact, they just think they are.


8,836 posted on 12/17/2005 6:52:04 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sionnsar
Was it 100% faithful to the book?

Most films aren't, it is impossible to fit the entire contents of a book into a couple hours of film, plus there are liberties taken to 'sex-up' the film!

8,837 posted on 12/17/2005 6:52:41 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: A CA Guy

No, I don't think the gospels are anti-Semitic, and I didn't get the impression that the film reviewer thought so, either. It's just that there was that big rumble about it. Very tedious, in my opinion.


8,838 posted on 12/17/2005 6:53:11 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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To: A CA Guy

Excellent points. I'm sure that's George Bush's fault, too.


8,839 posted on 12/17/2005 6:53:45 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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To: Kindly Old Doc Tsu; King Prout; sionnsar; NicknamedBob; Irish_Thatcherite; ...

I enjoyed the Narnia movie. I am going to have to reread the book (it's been probably 20 years since I read it) because I couldn't remember if some of the scenes in the movie happened in the book.


8,840 posted on 12/17/2005 6:54:16 PM PST by tuliptree76
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