[Momaw Nadon]

FYI and discussion

[Perdogg]

ping! Are you really in sunny downtown Burbank?

[Momaw Nadon]

Ping!

[cripplecreek]

I think there is intelligent life somewhere but they aren't visiting much these days.

[EveningStar]

bttt

[lowbridge]

What about those folks who have experienced alien beings first-hand? Abduction stories are an entirely separate field of study and one which I won’t address here, although I must confess that it’s intriguing to see photos of scoop marks on the flesh of human subjects, coupled with the claim that these minor disfigurements are due to alien malfeasance. But even aside from the puzzling question of why beings from distant suns would come to Earth to melon-ball the locals, this evidence is, once again, ambiguous. The scoops might be due to aliens, and then again, they could be the consequence of spousal abuse or many other causes.

How did abductee Betty Hill manage to draw an accurate picture of a distant star system years before it was discovered by astronomers?

[carlr]

To believe in UFOs one has to assume as fact a number of sophisticated things.
As examples,the required energy source,supply capacity,consumption ability(propulsion units)to make the long trip possible,pre flight research (to find and identify Earth as a platform for life)and guidance systems to pinpoint us for a visit.
All are hypothetically possible but of course require a much greater level of knowledge and technology than we have.
Assuming an alien life form has this knowledge to make interstellar travel feasible,it is still not realistic to think that they would make stealth visits and then leave with a minimal of contact.
Sorry to any who are true believers but alien visitation is highly implausible.

[Semper Paratus]

If we are being observed by extra-terrestrials it will more likely be by nano-probes not much bigger than molecules.

Our technology is close to this devleopment already.

[My2Cents]

between one and two-thirds of the public thinks that extraterrestrial life exists

What's the margin of error? ;-)

[My2Cents]

to allow their crews to conduct bizarre (and, in most states, illegal) experiments

Not illegal in California.

[SunkenCiv]

"The burden of proof is on those making the claims, not those who find the data dubious."

Actually, if there is a burden of proof, it is on those who, through denial, are accusing lots of people of being liars, fools, cads, etc.

And no one is under any obligation to please the deniers with data or anything else. **** 'em.

Refuting Fermi: No Evidence for Extraterrestrial Life?
National Institute for Discovery Science | John B. Alexander, Ph.D
Posted on 01/02/2005 4:43:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1312384/posts

[muir_redwoods]

Visits by aliens who hit and run and don't attempt to make official and obvious contact make no sense to me. The physics of interstellar travel make the whole thing unlikely.

I have absolutely no doubt that the universe if full of all kinds of life but the lights in the sky could more easily be time machines from our own future than alien space craft, IMHO.

[RightWhale]

I've been looking for hard evidence in the sense of hardware. I have also been watching the sky since Sputnik 1. If something is going on, there ought to be some actual evidence besides mysterious scoops and Moses-like burns, but so far, nothing.

[Frank_Discussion]

Seth is a vindictive little man. He absolutely HATES that Ufology competes with SETI. And I even happen to like SETI, and expect it to bring positive results. Shostak is an irrational loose cannon, and he threatens destruction of his own field of study with his own vitriol.

Jill Tartar needs to b*tch-slap him.