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14.05.2005 | Diana

Posted on 05/14/2005 5:31:41 AM PDT by diana6

Hi all, I really appreciate participating in your forum and will start my posting with new information from the United States, I also would like to have your comments on the declared phenomenon:

As a result of war on terrorism Islam becomes the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society. Millions of people read Koran (Quran) in the Internet and visited Islamic sites.

Islam Attracts Converts by the Thousand, Drawn Before and After Attacks By JODI WILGOREN Source: The New York Times: October 22, 2001, Monday

http://www.therevival.co.uk/revivalissues/september11_and_conversions.htm http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times, May 31, 1996, p.3

Famous people are affected too:

Singer "Cat Stevens" Oh, baby, baby it's a wild world Hear his story as told him

http://english.islamway.com/bindex.php?section=article&id=146 http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/singerUnid/E94AFB9F1279780B482569BA0007D998

The fact Now Americans and Western are converting by thousands to Islam (in US a rate of 100,000 a year), I don't think most of it is in the prisons like Mohammad Ali, but there is a great amount of conversion to Islam in American prisons and outside.


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To: diana6
Famous people are affected too:

Singer "Cat Stevens" Oh, baby, baby it's a wild world Hear his story as told him

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I've got your "Cat Stevens" right here..


61 posted on 05/14/2005 11:58:32 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: diana6
What exactly was the point of posting this? Do you want to jump in and respond sometime?

Hi all, I really appreciate participating in your forum ...

Do you want a definition of that particular word?

As a result of war on terrorism Islam becomes the fastest-growing religion in America...

Would you mind presenting us with some verifiable stats showing that Islam has, annually, more converts than say Roman Catholicism? Baptists? How do you plan on proving to us that there is ANY correlation between the US-led WOT and the alleged "growth" of Islam in the Untied States?

Lucy, you got some 'splainin to do.

62 posted on 05/14/2005 12:00:28 PM PDT by grellis (STILL the Queen of the Dorks)
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To: diana6
Go away troll... kitty doesn't like you.

63 posted on 05/14/2005 12:35:52 PM PDT by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: diana6

64 posted on 05/14/2005 12:37:40 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: diana6
Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times,

Rodman. Heh.

65 posted on 05/14/2005 12:56:33 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: Zacs Mom

Cutest...kitty picture...ever!


66 posted on 05/14/2005 1:45:22 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: diana6

Snack time.

67 posted on 05/14/2005 9:15:06 PM PDT by rdl6989 (If it drives the left into fits, its a good thing.)
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To: Rightly Biased

Those look like the guys getting into my bird feeders.


68 posted on 05/14/2005 9:15:48 PM PDT by rdl6989 (If it drives the left into fits, its a good thing.)
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To: diana6

From what I've heard from different friends of mine who have converted to Islam, there are a few main reasons for most conversions.

1. Islam is a religious lifestyle, not just a quick Sunday morning church visit and a label. Although some Christians do pray before each meal and spend much time with their Bible, etc.many don't in the USA. Islam is something that can't be shunted into a few spare hours. You pray five times a day. Your dress code is affected; even your food choices are explained in the Qur'an. Many converts like it because they feel actively involved and as if they are truly religious.

2. For women, it is a big and welcome change from the "in your face" sexuality of western culture. Women are not required by the Qur'an to veil. They are required to dress modestly and it is *recommended* that they cover their hair. However, most do veil and some go farther with niquab (the face screen) or other traditional clothes. Women dressed like this consider themselves marked as religious women, not easy dates. They don't get hit on. No one gawks at their bodies. They are clearly off limits sexually and many that I personally know say it is liberating not to have to conform to western standards of sexy dress, makeup and spending so much time and money on appearance. You buy a five-dollar hijab, put your hair in a ponytail and cover, wear long skirt and a tunic shirt -you're set.

3. Islam is also growing because many people are not satisfied with Christianity. They feel it is too liberal, too fluid and changes for the culture. Islam on the other hand is more rigid and does not as a whole allow much for modern changes and the whims of society. Many like it because they feel other religions have loose standards.

That's what I got from the new Muslimah's group at Yahoo, Islamway women's board and a few other friends of mine. Stats taken by many college groups say that women convert 4 times more often then men.


69 posted on 05/16/2005 5:41:20 AM PDT by diana6
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To: cyborg; fortunecookie
Delicious, crunchy, zotty goodness!





70 posted on 05/16/2005 5:49:45 AM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: diana6
For women, it is a big and welcome change from the "in your face" sexuality of western culture

Islam on the other hand is more rigid and does not as a whole allow much for modern changes and the whims of society

If you're truly as gullible/naive as you sound, please don't breed !

71 posted on 05/16/2005 5:55:24 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Petronski

LOL


72 posted on 05/16/2005 5:56:37 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

Most Islamic societies aren't theocratic. I find it interesting that the three largest Islamic countries have had women heads of state (Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh), while the same can't be said of the three largest Christian countries.

Women in Christianity and Islam (see the difference):
http://www.jamiat.org.za/isinfo/wchristian.html

This is a very great site which explains all reasons (philosophical, social, economical and etc.) of Hijab. To some it maybe a different view.
http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/qa00000513.aspx

The so-called freedom of western women and child

http://magickalmusings.net/motherhood/abuse.php


http://www.beconvinced.com


73 posted on 05/16/2005 6:11:07 AM PDT by diana6
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To: diana6

I have to disagree with you respectfully. I'll take my chances in America being a religious Roman Catholic.


74 posted on 05/16/2005 6:14:00 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: diana6
Reality check:

Militant Islam

Educate yourself.

75 posted on 05/16/2005 6:47:43 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Petronski; cyborg
The New York Times: October 22, 2001, Monday, just weeks after 9/11 (aren't the folks at the Times special?) and sHillary from 1996? That's the best she could do? Yeah, relevant.
76 posted on 05/16/2005 8:43:05 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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I cant accept your crap.Some post shows a complete and dangerous lack of comprehension. Islam is a religion, not a terrorist group. The media classifies Muslims as "terrorists," "highjackers" and "kidnappers." So why would anyone even look at Islam? Why are so many priests and preachers going to Islam?

David Karesh was a Christian, shall we ban all Christian momentous?
When you compare all of Islam to these terrorists, you essentially say every Sunday clothed bible reading Christian is a Branch Dividian fundamentalist. The linking of such actions to Islam or the Qur’an is incorrect. Rather, such inhumane actions clearly contradict the teachings of Islam - just as the bombing at Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh and the killings that occurred at Abraham Mosque, Hebron - Philistine by Dr. Baruch Goldstein clearly contradict the teachings of Christianity and Judaism, respectively.


77 posted on 05/17/2005 1:52:18 AM PDT by diana6
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To: diana6

I really don’t like misunderstanding of my intentions in this post .It is not an assault on Christianity or any other religion. It is indispensable for me to look for the truth and study comparative religion because if I would like to know whether a religion is true or false, I should not depend on my emotions, feelings, or traditions. Rather, I should depend on my reason and intellect. When God sent the prophets, He supported them with miracles and evidences, which proved that they were truly prophets, send by God and that the religion they came with was true.

We cay say there are so many sects, cults, religions, philosophies, and movements in the world, all of which claim to be the right way or the only true path to God. How can one determine which one is correct or if, in fact, all are correct? The method by which the answer can be found is to clear away the superficial differences in the teachings of the various claimants to the ultimate truth, and identify the central object of worship to which they call, directly or indirectly. Can we either claim that all men are Gods or that specific men were God or that nature is God or that God is a figment of man's imagination.
It may be argued that all religions teach good things so why should it matter which one we follow. I made some searching and I couldn’t find a sharp answer but I found something interesting stated in the Koran:
Creation-worship is the greatest sin that man can commit because it contradicts the very purpose of his creation. Man was created to worship Allah alone, consequently, the worship of creation, which is the essence of idolatry, is the only unforgivable sin. One who dies in this state of idolatry has sealed his fate in the next life. This is not an opinion, but a revealed fact stated by Allah in his final revelation to man

"Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whom so ever He wishes"(Soorah An- Nisaa 4:48 and 116)

Buddha was a reformer who introduced a number of humanistic principles to the religion of India. He did not claim to be God nor did he suggest to his followers that he be an object of worship. Yet, today most Buddhists who are to be found outside of India have taken him to be God and prostrate to idols made in their perception of his likeness.

God revealed a holy book to Jesus called the Injeel, some parts of which may be still available in the teachings of God to Jesus in the New Testament. But this does not mean that the Bible we have today because it is not the original scriptures that were revealed by God. They underwent alterations, additions, and omissions. This was also said by the Committee charged with revising The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version). This Committee consisted of thirty-two scholars who served as members of the Committee. They secured the review and counsel of an Advisory Board of fifty representatives of the co-operating denominations. The Committee said in the Preface to The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version), p. iv, “Sometimes it is evident that the text has suffered in transmission, but none of the versions provides a satisfactory restoration. Here we can only follow the best judgment of competent scholars as to the most probable reconstruction of the original text.
The Committee also said in the Preface, p. vii, Notes are added which indicate significant variations, additions, or omissions in the ancient authorities (Mt 9.34; Mk 3.16; 7.4; Lk 24.32, 51, etc.).

My question is do we believe in the information declared in the following sites or not:

THE REAL STORY OF MARY
http://geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/3001/storyofmary.htm

THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS
http://sultan.org/articles/Jesus.html

Who Was Jesus According to Jesus?
http://www.islaminfo.com

IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD?
http://www.jamaat.net/bible/Bible1-3.html

Women in Christianity and Islam
http://www.jamiat.org.za/isinfo/wchristian.html

The Bible - A Closer Look!
http://www.todayislam.com/bible.htm

The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus: a comparison
http://www.soundvision.com/Info/Jesus/inIslam.asp

Christ in Islam
http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-20479/Christ.htm

Mary & Jesus in Quran
http://www.islamworld.net/

Is Jesus the Same as God?
http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-20479/Samegod.htm

None of the Bible’s Writers Believed That Jesus is God
http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10-1.htm

Jesus Will Descend at the End of Time
http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=77

http://www.jamaat.net/letters.htm


The so-called freedom of western women and child

http://magickalmusings.net/motherhood/abuse.php





Islam The Fastest Growing Religion in the World ...Discover Why?
http://www.whyislam.org/discoverwhy.htm

Why are so many women converting to Islam ?
http://geocities.com/Athens/Agora/4229/women.html

Converters to Islam from All religions
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/xfsection/
Veiws of Non-Muslim Scientists about Islam
http://www.islamicmedicine.org/nonmuslim.htm


78 posted on 05/18/2005 1:03:46 AM PDT by diana6
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To: diana6

see islam is a great thing ..... islam like the sweet if you test it one time , you will never ever leave it ..... dont get the bad picture of islam ..... you can visit this site :
www.beconvinced.com

there are four parts inside that site ........ you will find the complete picture of islam ..... just choose and read








Quran
Surah No 36 ( chaptar 36 )
Title: Ya-Sin


1. Ya Sin.
2. By the wise Quran,
3. Lo! thou art of those sent
4. On a straight path,
5. A revelation of the Mighty, the Merciful,
6. That thou mayst warn a folk whose fathers were not warned, so they are heedless.
7. Already hath the word proved true of most of them, for they believe not.
8. Lo! we have put on their necks carcans reaching unto the chins, so that they are made stiff necked.
9. And We have set a bar before them and a bar behind them, and (thus) have covered them so that they see not.
10. Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not, it is alike for them, for they believe not.
11. Thou warnest only him who followeth the Reminder and feareth the Beneficent in secret. To him bear tidings of forgiveness and a rich reward.
12. Lo! We it is Who bring the dead to life. We record that which they send before (them), and their footprints. And all things We have kept in a clear register.


79 posted on 05/21/2005 3:13:03 AM PDT by diana6
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To: diana6


Some post shows a complete and dangerous lack of comprehension. Islam is a religion, not a terrorist group. The media classifies Muslims as "terrorists," "highjackers" and "kidnappers." So why would anyone even look at Islam? Why are so many priests and preachers going to Islam?

David Karesh was a Christian, shall we ban all Christian momentous?
When you compare all of Islam to these terrorists, you essentially say every Sunday clothed bible reading Christian is a Branch Dividian fundamentalist. The linking of such actions to Islam or the Qur’an is incorrect. Rather, such inhumane actions clearly contradict the teachings of Islam - just as the bombing at Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh and the killings that occurred at Abraham Mosque, Hebron - Philistine by Dr. Baruch Goldstein clearly contradict the teachings of Christianity and Judaism, respectively.

So I don't outbid on Islam .Islam a brilliant religion by itself and doesn't need me or any preaching or missionary work. i wrote in this community not to convince people to be converted to Islam because this is completely their choice and believe which I respect very much, i have participated to correct the picture and reputation which have been intentionally ravaged by west media.



I personally believe that all the hate comes from the media. some americans are so ignorant and gullible that they allow the media to decieve them. Its always "a sucide bomber killed this many" and "violent palestinian boys throw rocks" but if we look at the bigger picture its a rock against a tank, apache helicopters, grenades and the list goes on. From this view it is quite simple to see the injustice.
things like 9/11 happen daily in palestine only like 10X more inhuman all due to american funds..


Why Is Islam Often Misunderstood?

Islam is frequently misunderstood and may even seem exotic in some parts of today's world. Perhaps this is because religion no longer dominates everyday life in Western society; whereas, for Muslims, Islam is life. Muslims make no artificial division between the secular and the sacred.

For quite some time Islam was thought of as some "Eastern" religion, but with the increasing number of Muslims living in the West, Islam is gradually being perceived as a global faith. Muslims are not thought of as strangers with unusual practices, but are being welcomed as part of the mosaic of life in the West. In many cases, Islam is not just viewed as an acceptable religion, but as a desired way of living.

Whoever kills a soul, unless for a soul, or for corruption done in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one, it is as if he had saved mankind entirely [Qur'an 5:32]


80 posted on 05/24/2005 5:18:15 AM PDT by diana6
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