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If there were life on Mars wouldn't it pass gas?
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | April 30, 2005 | AP Wire

Posted on 04/30/2005 6:34:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58

WASHINGTON -- For years, scientists searching for life on other worlds have concentrated on finding water. No creature on Earth, from whales to bacteria, can live without it.

But now they are also pursuing another line of evidence -- swamp gas.

Formally known as methane or natural gas, this common compound of carbon and hydrogen is produced by decaying vegetation, in coalmines, rice paddies and cows' stomachs, and by myriad of tiny microbes called methanogens. Even the world's trillions of termites pump out little puffs of methane when they consume wood.

The recent discovery of trace amounts of methane on Mars stirred hopes that it might be another signal that microbial life exists -- or once existed -- on the Red Planet.

"We have clear evidence that there is a source of methane on Mars," said Michael Mumma, an astrobiologist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "We're going to test this as a search for other evidence (of life)."

The space agency and its European counterpart have scheduled an international "Methane-on-Mars" workshop next month. They want to figure out how to follow this tantalizing hint that the seemingly dead planet might still be biologically active.

Interest in methane is high because this gas, a fragile compound of one atom of carbon and four atoms of hydrogen, is easily destroyed by the intense ultra-violet radiation raking the Martian surface.

Because methane's lifetime is short, scientists figure it must have been created within the last 300 years, implying that life may still exist -- or very recently existed -- on Mars.

"The presence of significant methane on Mars requires recent release from sub-surface reservoirs," said Mumma, who discussed his findings at an astrobiology conference in Boulder, Colo., this month.

There is a major problem, however. Although most of the methane on Earth is generated biologically, a significant amount -- perhaps as much as 20 percent -- comes from non-biological chemical reactions. Volcanoes, the hot springs of Yellowstone National Park, and hot-water vents at the bottom of the oceans all produce quantities of methane.

Furthermore, huge amounts of non-biological methane are found on gaseous planets like Jupiter and Saturn. Frozen lakes of methane were detected this year on Saturn's moon, Titan. Comets are full of it.

Since living creatures are not the only way to generate swamp gas, scientists can't be sure how the Martian methane originated.

"We don't have a conclusion about its origin," Mumma admitted.

"Many different lines of evidence are going to be needed to convince people that it's biological," said Stephen Mojzsis, a geologist at the University of Colorado in Boulder.

Because of this uncertainty, Norman Pace, a University of Colorado molecular biologist, warned researchers at the conference not to take the traces of methane on Mars as proof of life.

"This is not the smoking gun," he said.

Jonathan Telling, a geologist at the University of Toronto, said scientists might be able to distinguish between biological and non-biological methane on Mars by testing the carbon and hydrogen atoms in the gas. Each of these elements comes in a lighter and heavier form. On Earth, the lighter forms are generated by living organisms, the heavier ones by inorganic chemistry. Presumably the same thing could happen on Mars.

Tullis Onstott, a geoscientist at Princeton University, Princeton, N.J., has developed a device to measure the heavier and lighter forms of carbon and hydrogen in Martian methane. He wants to put his instrument on a future Mars rover, hoping to determine whether the gas is biological or non-biological in origin.

The Martian methane was detected in 2003 and 2004 by three separate observatories -- ground telescopes in Hawaii and Chile and a European space satellite. It was coming from at least five different locations.

The amounts were tiny -- from 10 to 200 parts of methane per billion parts of atmosphere -- compared to an average of 1,500 parts per billion on Earth. But that was enough to set off a new wave of excitement among those seeking extraterrestrial life.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: mars

1 posted on 04/30/2005 6:34:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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2 posted on 04/30/2005 6:36:54 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Even IF they find methane on Mars there is absolutely NO proof that it isn't just residual residue from Michael Moore's time on Earth...


3 posted on 04/30/2005 7:40:27 PM PDT by politicket (We now live in a society where "tolerance" is celebrated at the expense of moral correctness.)
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To: politicket; Graybeard58

Oops....I meant to respond to the poster of the thread...


4 posted on 04/30/2005 7:41:34 PM PDT by politicket (We now live in a society where "tolerance" is celebrated at the expense of moral correctness.)
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To: KevinDavis
Ping!

5 posted on 05/01/2005 2:35:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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6 posted on 05/01/2005 2:43:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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7 posted on 05/01/2005 2:51:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: Aurelius; bedolido; Berosus; blam; Do not dub me shapka broham; EveningStar; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ..
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8 posted on 05/01/2005 2:56:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: Graybeard58

Hoagland says there is life there now and that is good enough for me.


9 posted on 05/01/2005 3:21:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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10 posted on 05/01/2005 3:38:20 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Graybeard58

Does Titan's methane origin come from decaying matter? The pundits say no. Scientist may have to rethink hydrocarbons.


11 posted on 05/01/2005 3:45:56 PM PDT by demlosers (Rumsfeld: "We don't have an exit strategy, we have a victory strategy.'')
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To: RightWhale

Sure he isn't just passing gas? [/snicker]


12 posted on 05/01/2005 3:56:44 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (DUmmies in mourning. World is a better place.)
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To: Graybeard58

It's Gas, Jim, but not as we know it...


13 posted on 05/01/2005 4:13:40 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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