Posted on 04/26/2005 7:27:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz
Well, they went and did it.
The Republicans look like they will wimp out, not exercise the so-called Nuclear Option, and Harry Reid will PERMIT two judges to be approved and disapprove four others. Does anyone think for a second the Democrats won't "go nuclear" in a heartbeat if the roles were reversed?
This seals the deal for me. I am a Republican no more. It seems it does not matter if I vote Republican anyways, all I get is more liberalism. I am a man without a political party. I am a conservative without a home.
Between Bushes enthusiastic embrace of illegal immigration, and our party's inability to get even moderately conservative judges approved, what's the freakin' point of voting Republican any more? What's the point of voting? I will get liberalism no matter how I vote. My main issue is guns, and it appears the Democrats have learned their lesson on that one, so it appears I will be safe on the firearms front. Everything else the Republicans stand for, they stand for in word only. They do not seem to want to act. Therefore, I do not seem to want to vote Republican any more.
This is my Opus -- not from Free Republic, but from the Republican party. Even when they have the majority, they surrender.
The Republican Party is the France of politics.
No offense taken. I am proud to stand with President Bush and be supportive of his policies and administration during this war against terrorists, which is not to imply that you yourself are lax or uncaring about the fate of our nation if you happen to have an honest policy disagreement with him.
Personally, I was much more hopeful of a more conservative President, and ESPECIALLY a more effective and perhaps more conservative Republican party.
No one likes a quitter. :^}
Conservative Party. I like that. I like it alot.
Depends on the race. I vote in the GOP primaries because I wasn the GOP to represent conservative values. Then in the general election, depending on the closeness of the race, may vote 3rd party (or NOT for the GOP, if there is no candidate that reflects my sense of reasonable compromise) to pressure the Republican party to go more conservative. That is, unless the flaming liberal commie has a chance to win, in which case I hold my nose and vote (R).
Conservatives who want a conservative GOP should register (R) and vote in the GOP primaries.
Doug, still got the "No 'nads" song?
All of our decisions in life should be substantially based on facts or possibly a moral basis.
Do unto others as they would have done to you.
It's like borrowing money from someone that doesn't really have it and never paying it back.
It's like cheating a dear friend.
Honesty and loyality are the crue essential that we must first have and try to practice before we clean up the mess in DC that calls inself politics.
I left because of Lott. The religeous nutcases reinforced my decision.
Welcome to the Libertarian party.
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What's Wrong With This Picture?
Homosexuals Attack Christians; Marvin Olasky Attacks Christians
Dear Friends of the Constitutional Republic,
It was, to put it mildly, an ugly scene when in early October of last year, in Philadelphia, "Repent America" Director Michael Marcavage and some of his fellow Christians tried to peacefully preach the Gospel at a homosexual block party known as "Outfest."
When the Christians arrived, they were surrounded by angry homosexuals who blocked their Christian signs. Loud, shrill whistles were blown in the ears of the Christians. Vile language was screamed at the Christians.
Eleven Christians from "Repent America," including Marcavage, were arrested. All of them, after spending 21 hours in jail, were each charged with three felonies and five misdemeanors. The felony charges included: criminal conspiracy; ethnic intimidation (preaching the Gospel and singing "Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord); and riot. The misdemeanors charges were: reckless endangerment of another person (hate crime enabler, predicate act); possessing instruments of crime (the use of a megaphone to preach); disorderly conduct and failure to disperse; and obstructing a highway.
If all these Christians had been convicted --- which, thank God, they were not --- each would have faced, respectively, up to 47 years in prison and a $90,000 fine.
Now, you would think that if a Christian journalist was writing about all this, in a supposedly Christian publication, the story here is obvious. The "hate crime" here was by the homosexuals against the Christians.
But, no, when "World" magazine editor-in-chief Marvin Olasky wrote about this in his column in "World" magazine, he attacked the Christians!
In his column, headlined "How to hurt evangelism/In-your-face protests may distort, not amplify, the message," Olasky began by noting that when a judge dismissed all charges against these Christians, she said that free speech extends to Nazis, the KKK and "Repent America." This, he said, was "bitter news for evangelism" because the word had gone out from this judge that Nazis, KKK, and Christians were "all repulsive, but we have to put up with them."
But, this is an unconscionable cheap shot, especially from a person who is supposed to be a fellow-Christian.
What, exactly, is the point of saying this when Marcavage and the other Christians in his group were in no way responsible for what this judge said? The notion that evangelism is somehow "hurt" because of what some judge said is absurd.
Olasky also took Marcavage and his Christian crew to task because they carried a sign "decorated by flames, telling the gay revelers that they are going to hell." He asks: "How does that show Christ's compassion?" Well, (1) It's a fact, because God says it, that unrepentant homosexuals ARE going to go to hell unless they repent of their sin and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. And (2) it always shows the compassion of Christ to tell people what God says.
At another point, Olasky asks: "What tactics should Christians use in communicating to homosexuals both God's holiness and God's grace?" Good question, as far as it goes but it does not go far enough. God is not about just holiness and grace. God is also about WRATH. God's Word tells us that God is also a jealous God, a consuming fire, a God who will by no means clear the guilty. To talk about God and leave Hell out of the picture is to preach an incomplete Gospel.
Olasky quotes Marcavage as saying about the criticism of "Repent America" that: "It doesn't matter what we say. This is what we should expect from the world. They killed all the prophets." To which Olasky replies, in part, snidely: "Hmm: Can that be a self-fulfilling prophecy, so that unless we win the ‘repulsive' label we think we've failed?"
But, this is another, below-the-belt cheap shot. Marcavage and the Christians with him were in no way trying to win the "repulsive" label. Not at all. They were simply trying to, and were, peacefully and lawfully preaching God's Word; they were trying to win homosexuals to Christ.
Olasky says that it seems to him that it is "easier to use a megaphone than to love our neighbors quietly and one-by-one, so that we have the credibility to communicate difficult truths to them." Well, (1) what happened to these "Repent America" Christians shows, obviously, that it is NOT all that "easy" to do what they did because they were physically menaced, jailed and charged with a number of serious crimes. And (2) Olasky commits the fallacy of the false alternative. In presenting the Gospel, it is not, necessarily, a choice between using a megaphone OR preaching quietly. There's a time and a place when either method is required.
Ironically, Olasky tells how he once asked some of his University of Texas journalism students to answer the question: "How do Christians act?"
Typical answers included:
"Fanatical…Trying to force others to do everything their way. Bossing, not helping, others." This is ironic BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY THE HOMOSEXUALS TREATED MARCAVAGE AND HIS CHRISTIAN CREW!
Olasky concludes his column by referring, obviously, to Marcavage and his Christian evangelists, saying that we, as Christians, should be "constantly reexamining our own understanding and tactics." Well, amen! But, in this particular case, it is Marvin Olasky who should be reexamining, and apologizing for, his gratuitous and unwarranted bashing of Michael Marcavage and his fellow Christians who were simply trying to tell Hell-bound homosexuals what God says about their sin.
We, as Christians, should expect to be attacked by the world. We should not expect to be attacked by the Editor of "World" magazine, which is supposed to be a Christian publication.
A footnote: If you would like to contact Marvin Olasky to tell him what you think about his column, his office phone number is 609-258-7101. If he replies, let us know what he said. And, please, be nice. Do not respond to Olasky the way he did to Michael Marcavage & Company.
For God, Family, & the Republic,
Michael A. Peroutka
They also called George and Jeb Bush 'murderers' during the Schiavo debacle.
Don't forget racist and border weenie while you're at it.
You really are digging yourself a hole between this thread and THIS ONE
My good man, you are barking at the wrong burglars. I have called DC and e mailed them until calluses formed, and continue to do so. The point is, they are NOT listening!
Laz is merely expressing the frustration we all feel. And anyone who thinks Hillary can win the prize had better put down the crack pipe!!
" I suspect that Frist doesn't have the votes for the nuke option. "
Crap, we have the votes They are cowards....and always have been.
"I am a conservative first."
Amen, that is supposed to be what this forum is all about!
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C E N T E R F O R R E C L A I M I N G A M E R I C A
From the Desk of: Dr. Gary Cass, Executive Director
URGENT UPDATES:
#1--Your calls to Congress are working (see below)
#2--Meeting with Sen. Frist's COS on Thursday
(Please forward this to your friends)
Calls from Center team members to break the judicial filibuster
are working! I'm forwarding you an e-mail I received yesterday
from our contact on Capitol Hill (see below). It is clear that
Senate offices are receiving "tons" of calls and most of the
calls are coming from Center for Reclaiming America team members!
+ + I am meeting with Sen. Frist's Chief of Staff Thursday
Also, this Thursday I will be meeting with Sen. Bill Frist's
Chief of Staff, hand delivering our petitions to break the
filibuster. The timing is unbelievable. Sen. Frist will make
the final decision on whether to bring the filibuster issue
to the floor of the Senate. At the height of this debate, I
will be presenting your petitions to the most important
person in this entire debate!
+ + Two immediate action items:
#1 -- Please sign our petition.
Prior to my meeting in Sen. Frist's office, I want to rally an
additional 20,000 team members to sign our petition to Stop
Judicial Tyranny. Our records show that you have not yet signed.
Please click here to sign:
http://www.cfra.info/73.asp?RID=5823712
#2 -- Keep the calls coming!
Please call your two senators and the key "swing" senators we have
identified. Mention you are part of the "Center for Reclaiming
America" team and you support the proposed change in the filibuster
rules for judicial nominees.
Your Florida senators:
Sen. Martinez: 202) 224-3041
Sen. Nelson: (202) 224-5274
Then, call these key "swing" senators:
Sen. Mike DeWine (OH), 202-224-2315
Sen. John Warner (VA), 202-224-2023
Sen. Susan Collins (ME), 202-224-2523
Sen. John Sununu (NH), 202-224-2841
Sen. Lincoln Chafee (RI), 202-224-2921
Sen. John McCain (AZ), 202-224-2235
Sen. Olympia Snowe (ME), 202-224-5344
+ + Talking Points
--Tell them you are part of the "Center for Reclaiming
America" grassroots team.
--Say you "fully support the proposed changes in the
filibuster rules pertaining to judicial nominees."
--Urge immediate action this week!
#2 -- Help me rally 20,000 to join you in signing the petition
Prior to my meeting in Sen. Frist's office, I want to rally an
additional 20,000 team members to sign our petition to Stop
Judicial Tyranny. I need your help. Gladys, thank you
for signing! Will you please forward this message to your
friends and encourage them to sign as well? Here's the link:
http://www.cfra.info/73.asp?RID=5823712
This week, your grassroots citizenship is making an impact that is
being felt in our nation's capital! I will be honored to represent
your voice this Thursday in my meeting with Sen. Frist's chief of
staff. Thank you for making a difference!
Dr. Gary Cass
Executive Director
Center for Reclaiming America
P.S. Here is the message I received yesterday from our contact
on Capitol Hill. Your calls are registering loud and clear!
-----Original Message-----
From: J.M.
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:36 PM
To: Cass, Gary; M.S.
Subject: Fwd: FW: Are calls coming in today on ending the filibuster?
Great work guys :)
-----Original Message-----
From: (Senate Office)
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:19 PM
To: (Conf)
Subject: RE: Are calls coming in today on ending the filibuster?
TONS! Center for Reclaiming America - all in support of ending the
filibuster.
-----Original Message-----
From: J.M.
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:02 PM
To: (Senate Leader); (Conf);
(Conf)
Subject: Are calls coming in today on ending the filibuster?
Importance: High
** High Priority **
-----End Forwarded Message-----
+ + For "The Truth on Judicial Filibusters," click here:
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/download/JudicialFilibusters.pdf
+ + Read Dr. Cass' editorial, "The Founders Giveth--the Courts Taketh
Away":
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/Pages/News/newspage.asp?story=2594
+ + Stay on top of this and other critical issues facing America:
http://www.reclaimamerica.org
+ + To Sign our "Stop Judicial Tyranny" petition:
http://www.cfra.info/73.asp?RID=5823712
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The Center for Reclaiming America, established by Dr. D. James Kennedy,
is an outreach of Coral Ridge Ministries to inform the American public
and motivate Christians to defend and implement the biblical principles
on which our country was founded. The Center, led by Executive Director
Dr. Gary Cass, provides non-partisan, non-denominational information,
training, and support to all those interested in impacting the culture
and renewing the vision set forth by our Founding Fathers.
Questions? cfra@coralridge.org
Then I can take credit and garner attention.
KIDDING!!! Playing into my opponents caricature of me. :o) Seriously, if they are effective, I want to be a part of that.
It's okay if a Jew joins, right?
It's okay if a Jew joins, right?
Stop repeating yourself.
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