Posted on 03/22/2005 10:15:40 PM PST by JennysCool
I rarely post a vanity, but however the Schiavo case comes out, I would think it best that Pinellas County, Folrida, the mildewy backwater that has apparently encouraged this corruption for many years, be boycotted by clear-thinking Americans who do not wish their dollars be pipelined into a swamp such as this.
Apparently, Pinellas voters enjoy corrupt public works projects (hospices among them), and corrupt county officials. In fact, Pinellas folks have apparently sanctioned them for years and years. Perhaps they are both amused and enriched by them.
Well, no more. Pinellas County, Florida, right ought to be remembered throughout our history for sanctioning not only civic corruption, but venal idiocy and malign malice. For shorthand, we'l just call you "Selma."
I, for one, will never travel to any city in Pinellas County, nor purchase products made there, nor have any relationship or correspondence with anyone who makes their home in that rotten enclave.
I am certain that other surrounding counties -- just a hop, skip, and a jump from Pinellas, have much more to offer to thinking men and women.
As to the folks in Pinellas, the Terri Schiavo Case is all being done in your name, because you apparently countenance greed, and corruption, and malice. Probably just to make a buck. How are the real estate prices anyway?
Hope you enjoy what your property taxes hath wrought.
Idiots.
> Please join me in a cheerful and complete boycott of Pinellas County, Florida.
My 40th HS reunion is approaching, for Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. I decided last week that I will not be attending as a matter of principle and also fear.
Tragically, Terri will die soon; maybe tonight or tomorrow. At that time I will mass e-mail a notice to my fellow graduates of my position, and include both Bush brothers as recipients.
> Your vitriol is childish, rude and hurts fellow Americans.
I think civil execution orders achieved at the expense of breaking laws to be able to kill people whose wishes are not truly known -- decided on the basis of extremely questionable hearsay when more reliable hearsay is presented, and dismissed -- are a lot more rude and hurtful, but just my opinion.
As to your comment in #39, "I know what to do. I'm leaving all of this confusion, backstabbing and hate-mongering behind."
Bye, bye. Don't let the door hit you you know where.
I don't intend to travel to Florida period, NOR purchase ANY products grown or manufactured there. Florida and her "goods" are off my radar screen and won't receive a single dime from me and my family and any friends that I can get the evidence across to.
All the good people from florida should move. I don't think they can trust any Agency in that State. Corruption and collusion appear to be rampant and it's tentacles know no limits it would appear. That includes corruption within Law Enforcement!!
Well the so called Republicans in the Government of florida, at least 12 of them, made sure to vote to put Terri to death!! I am advised by a Florida resident that these "republicans" in the Florida House and Senate are really democrats who "became Republicans" RINO'S for the sole purpose of getting elected. Well, NO thanks.
Well putting innocent people to death by starvation and dehydration simply to 1) get rid of her and 2) further the Right to Kill movement. THAT deserves rude.
You sure are dictatorial about a country that you don't even live in.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Theo Roeloffzen
To: Lady Clonard ; Joseph Guijarro de Clonard ; Joseph Guijarro de Clonard ; Joseph Earl Sutton de Clonard
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:00 PM
Dear family,
I wish you all an happy Easter, and the blessings of Jesus Christ our Lord in the combat against the people who are poisoned from satan.
EVERYBODY DOWNLOAD we have weight to toss around here
dated march 18, 2005
THEY WERE TO SHOW UP FRIDAY MARCH 25TH, 2005
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/gazette/2005/03/subpoenas-to-michael-and-terri-schiavo.php
Then start emailing calling faxing and tell them to arrest Terri & Micheal for
not showing up for court! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
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Michael A.Peroutka:"The Governor and the President Have Murdered Terri Schiavo"
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Michael A. Peroutka
The Governor and the President Have Murdered Terri Schiavo -
Sun Mar 27, 2005 22:34
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Jeb must act NOW and he can
Email: jeb.bush@myflorida.com
Telephone: (850) 488-2272
HE SAYS HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.....THAT IS A LIE!
The Governor and the President Have Murdered Terri Schiavo - Somebody Has to Say it!
By Michael A. Peroutka
Mar 27, 2005, 16:39
http://magic-city-news.com/article_3510.shtml
Resurrection Sunday Morning, 2005
Dear Friends of the Constitutional Republic,
Yesterday, I spoke to a good friend in Florida. My friend is also my business partner and we discussed business for a few minutes. But our hearts were both heavy with the public murder of Terri Schiavo. My partner said something that caught me short and took my breath away.
He said, "Well, at least Jeb Bush tried to do something. He tried to save her life."
I felt my blood rising.
No, I told my long time friend. Then I found myself saying it a little louder. "NO!" I repeated, "He did no such thing!" What infuriated me was the realization that they (the Bushes and the media pundits) had convinced my good friend that they tried to save her life. To the contrary, I rushed to explain to him, the actions and explanations of Jeb and George Bush are the thinnest sophistry and can not be viewed as credible to any sentient person.
There is no reason to believe Governor Bush or President Bush when they say that they tried to help Terri Schiavo. In fact, they are accomplices to murder.
And - make no mistake - this is murder. Murder most foul! Murder carried out in broad daylight by a judge, a police force, the Governor of Florida, and the President of the United States.
That's right. George Bush, against whom I ran for President, has murdered Terri Schiavo.
As I stated in my open letter to both Governor Bush and President Bush, they have not only the means and the ability to save her life, but the affirmative duty to do so.
Right now, they have hidden behind the thin veil that, as executives, they are subject to the opinions of judges which they call the "rule of law" when it's convenient for them to do so. But the opinions of a state or federal judge are not the rule of law. They are merely opinions.
The Governor of Florida, by his oath of office, has an affirmative duty to uphold the law and to protect innocent life in his jurisdiction regardless of what any judge says! Moreover, his police powers extend to the prevention of crimes, including murder. The well-publicized murder of Terri Schiavo is being carried out before him while he wrings his hands, expecting us to believe that he would stop it but he just can't.
Yes he can.
The police do not work for the judicial branch of government. They work for the executive.
And does George W. Bush really expect us to believe that he can send our sons and daughters to all corners of the world fighting "terrorists" but he can't stop the terrorist act of public execution taking place in Florida? Five years ago, on Easter Sunday Morning, the U.S. Justice Department thought they had the authority to raid a Florida home to steal Elian Gonzales from his mother's family. So, why can't they steal Terri Schiavo from those who are killing her?
When I consider these things, I ask myself why these brothers, who claim to be Christian, would not use the authority and means at their disposal to stop this terror in America.
Could it be that both brothers, while elected to executive positions, realize that it's the unelected judiciary that advances the internationalist agenda that their father spoke about (the New World Order)? Don't many of their globalist initiatives depend on the fact that we believe, falsely, that "law" is a changing, dynamic thing, and that judges, as the agents of that change, can "make" law. Could it be that while the Bush brothers and their one worlder colleagues put up a fight against the United Nations or, in this case, against a state judge, that they really don't intend to win?
Could it all be a sham, start to finish? Could it be that they just want to look like they care about Terri Schiavo - or you - or me, or the Constitution, or America, but they don't?
When they have us thoroughly convinced that judges can make up law, even to the extent that they can murder our daughters in front of our eyes, then they can do anything they want. They will have their new order.
Our founders recognized that all law, and liberty and government come from God. They founded our country on the presupposition that Christ is Lord. He still is Lord. He always was and always will be. He is Risen and through His Resurrection we can face tomorrow with hope. He is Sovereign. Amen.
This is murder and the Bush brothers are accomplices.
Somebody has to say it.
For God, Family, & the Republic,
Michael A. Peroutka
http://magic-city-news.com/article_3510.shtml
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I just called Mr. Hatches office. I had to call twice because I forgot to mention some things. There might be possible federal investigation but it is unknown because they weren't being very forthcoming. I left my name the second time. First time said about her being held in Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc. for 5 years. She's not terminal and that she is on Medicaid. Second time to give my name and say Hospice is violating Americans with Disabilities Act in which expressly prohibits denying a substantially disabled patient in the United States of America nor permitting the authorization of any representative or Guardian of an individual with a disability “to decline food, water, medical treatment, or medical services for that individual” There was a different person the second time.. said he would relay it to the Senator but that he had to go.. basically cut me off so I couldn't read the Section numbers of the Code itself. (Title 42, U.S.C. Sections 12101 and Cf 28 CRF, Ch 1, Subpart B, Section 35.130).
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There have been a number of postings today, regarding making your "own
flyer" that is very informative. Just as I had started the mass campaign to "CALL
DCF WITHOUT HESITATION" a few days ago (which seems to be posted a gazillion
places now too), I think we all need to gather our thoughts and work
together to create the right presentation.
We need to push the issues with both of the Bush brothers. Governor Bush
needs to assert his authority and power. President Bush needs to persuade the
congress and whatever other powers that be, to follow through with their
subpoenas, authority and pursuit of justice for Terri.
The mere fact that Terri is to appear before congress on Monday 28March2005
(tomorrow) means THAT subpoena must be executed. According to many statutes
and laws, as well as organizational policies and codes (such as the DCF and
other human protection agencies), the Governor CAN (and should) take Terri
into protective custody.
To date, however, he has ignored that. I truly believe that Governor Bush
wants to "do whatever [he] can" to save Terri. Unfortunately, he found the
proverbial Greer (brick) Wall when he tried.
However... (and here is where it takes that extra step, Folks) Governor Bush
or Federal Agents as ordered by Congress/President Bush MUST assert their
powers and enforce the subpoena. When Terri doesn't show up on Monday, TERRI
MUST BE ARRESTED! The Governor and DCF have a duty. The Governor, the
Florida Department of Children and Families (DCF), the President and the Congress
(both house and senate) MUST continue their plight to seek justice for Terri.
The congress and Governor Bush and President Bush and Seantor Bill Frist
MUST enforce the subpoenas and ISSUE A WARRANT FOR TERRI'S ARREST!! They know
just where Terri is. Go ARREST TERRI!
The state and federal laws, state and federal statutes and organization
policies and codes can easily be pursued and brought to life (so to speak).
When she doesn't "show up" for her subpoena tomorrow, Governor Bush (or
Senator Bill Frist, who is VERY gung-ho on applying the laws to "judge" Greer as
well as Schiavo and Felos) has repeatedly said that "no little judge" is
going to... SO!... Let's make sure he holds up to those statements!
So... print flyers - but keep it to the point. There is no need to go into
the HUGE number of injustices and one-sided horseshit that goes with this.
That will ALL come out when it's necessary. Right now, we have to concentrate
on getting Terri the help she most desperately needs.
Please print the flyers, but remember to keep your info short and sweet. In
your flyer, invite your friends and families to join the boards at yahoo and
visit Terri's site (_www.terrisfight.org_ (http://www.terrisfight.org) ) and
to PLEASE contact their reps and Governor Bush, and DCF and President Bush.
Points to remember and point out:
TELL THEM:
1. YOU KNOW OF A DISABLED WOMAN IN IMMINENT DANGER!
2. SHE IS BEING GROTESQUELY NEGLECTED.
3. SHE HAS NOT RECEIVED WATER SINCE FRIDAY 18 MAR 2005
4. HER NAME IS TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO. (SPELL SCHIAVO)
5. YOU ARE "FRIENDS OF HER FAMILY"
6. SHE IS AT HOSPICE HOUSE~WOODSIDE / PINELLAS PARK, Florida
7. GIVE THEM YOUR FULL NAME AND PHONE NUMBER
8. TELL THEM YOU CAN ANY INFORMATION THEY MAY NEED
9. TERRI HAS BEEN SUBPOENED TO APPEAR BEFORE CONGRESS
10. TERRI IS BEING INTENTIONALLY DEHYDRATED TO CAUSE HER DEATH
AND, you believe wholeheartedly that SHE IS BEING PUT TO DEATH IN ORDER TO
PREVENT HER APPEARANCE BEFORE CONGRESS!
Although most of us could recite a mountain of reasons for them to pursue
this investigation, at this point, those things are "irrelevant." We must
pursue JUSTICE FOR TERRI, with the circumstances of RIGHT NOW. Later, we must
band together and pursue JUSTICE FOR SCHIAVO too, although I am sure ALL of us
want to see a whole different sort of of "justice" when it comes to that
sorry son of a bitch. (And I am sure that we will all stick together to make
that happen ~ LATER)
However, right NOW, we MUST pursue the Governor and President Bush. Rem
ember, they have both, in concert with the congress, PROMISED TO and went so far
as to CREATE LAWS in the middle of the night to PROTECT AND INSURE TERRI'S
RIGHTS! Now, let's make sure they live up to their promises.
Hospice... Bob & Mary Schindler have promised to protect Terri's rights.
Bobby and Suzanne and family have promised to protect Terri.
100's of supporters and Terri Warriors fight for Terri's
rights.
Florida... Governor Jeb Bush has promised to stand up for Terri's rights.
Congress... Senator Bill Frist has promised to stand up for Terri's rights.
House... Unanimously agreed to stand up for Terri's rights.
Senate... More than 2/3's agreed to stand up for Terri's rights.
Nation... President George Bush has promised to stand up for Terri's rights.
World... The POPE has been very unambiguous about Terri's rights.
We are not alone. We are all fighting for the same rights. Terris' rights!
Terri's needs! Terri's love and life and liberty!
PLEASE continue to contact the media, continue to contact the Florida DCF,
continue to contact the Governor. My suggestion is below. Please remember to
sign your FULL NAME, ADDRESS, CITY-STATE AND ZIP and add your phone number
if you wish.
Also, remember to send this "brainstorm" to the media as well. Thanks for
listening to the rambling. Please work hard and long on this issue, as time
is short for Terri.
Keep the Faith!
Jane
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Governor Bush,
I am writing to you today requesting that you assert your powers to protect
Terri Schindler Schiavo. As you well know, Terri (and others) have been
subpoened to appear before Congress on Monday 28March2005.
Most of the others sought to appear by this subpoena are seeking to prevent
Terri from appearing before congress. Terri should be required (by law) to
appear for this subpoena. Those people, namely Judge George Greer, attorney
George Felos and Terri's estranged husband Michael Schiavo have Terri confined
to a Hospice Room. She has been neglected, abused and exploited by these
men, in order to prevent her from appearing before Congress. Terri is being
starved and dehydrated to death by Mr. Schiavo and Mr. Felos and have sought
and acquired a judicial order by Mr. Greer to allow the starvation and
dehydration, with their exact intentional finality being Terri's death.
Please pursue the subpoena. Place an arrest warrant on Terri and GO GET HER
AND ARREST HER AND PROTECT HER FROM THIS TYRANNY!
Please do what's right, Sir. Terri's life depends on it.
Regards,
Jane Boothe Lagerstrom
1820 Bell Road
Minooka, Illinois
60447
815.467.1609
Let's see. In post #30 ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1368563/posts?page=30#30 ) you stated: "I will be in Pinellas County next week. It is a gorgeous place with great people, exciting things to do, the best beaches and excellent restaurants.
"Your post is rude, arrogant and ignorant."
And in this post you've opined: "You sure are dictatorial about a country that you don't even live in."
Your #30 post shows how shallow you are -- more interested in a good time at the beach, dining and being "with great people" than concerned that a helpless disabled woman is about to be snuffed, in the first judicially recognized civil order of execution in the United States, because she's an inconvenience for an adulterous husband. I hope you never find yourself in a similar situation.
Here you're as snippy toward Canadian Outrage as JennysCool in #30.
Gee, what a concept, to be more interested in preventing a civil execution than going to the beach, etc. YOU SHALLOW TWIT. You obviously don't appreciate life, liberty and freedom of speech for anyone but yourself. There's a dangerous judicial precedent about to be imposed on all Americans. Everyone listed in post #48 is concerned and worried both about Terri and this act of extralegal judicial tyranny.
Bye, bye. Don't let the door hit you you know where.
Not to worry-it didn't-I was moving WAY too fast-and I have never looked back.
Thank God for Virginia!
We moved to Florida (from my beloved Texas!) last year. There is alot to like here (even in Palm Beach County--I get to be a minority!). However, I am constantly saddened by some of what goes on in this state. However, I generally note that the bad actors (Wexler for instance) were not born here. Of course, neither was I.
I have no problem boycotting Pinelles County. But, I would want them to know I was doing it. Otherwise, it doesn't mean much.
susie
Some of us need to stay here and try to change things. If all of us good people left, things would not ever get better.
susie
I am with you. I visit family there but will buy my gas and food over the line in Pasco from now on.
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