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The Hobbit Hole XIX - Tomorrow we may come this way...
The Freeper Hobbit Hole ^

Posted on 01/27/2005 9:59:05 AM PST by ecurbh

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Tomorrow we may come this way...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: Corin Stormhands

I think so too but apparently the college has a two-strike policy. At a graduate level, for such a blatant attempt, I think he should have been gone already too.


1,261 posted on 02/03/2005 10:09:33 AM PST by JenB
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To: JenB; Corin Stormhands

You'd think by Graduate school he'd be able to hide it better. He oughtta get kicked out for incompetence at least. ;^)


1,262 posted on 02/03/2005 10:10:39 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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To: ksen

It is, in a way, but it's not really that great. The last two episodes destroy the coolness of the series, the hero is so whiny you're rooting for him to die, and it doesn't ever explain anything. If you know Jewish mythology the symbolism makes sense, but it's just not as great as all that.

Rurouni Kenshin, now, everyone agrees is two seasons of the best anime ever made. (Especially season two). Pity the show had three seasons... It's a little violent and don't show the kids the OVAs, but I think it should be ok.


1,263 posted on 02/03/2005 10:11:20 AM PST by JenB
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To: ksen; JenB
You'd think by Graduate school he'd be able to hide it better.

Wife struggles with the lesson of plagiarism every time she teaches her students to do a research paper.

She makes them copy their sources and highlight what they're citing so that she can check. It adds hours to the grading process. She also makes the students and the parents sign a pledge which becomes increasingly more rigid every year (she had a student last year who said her parent wouldn't take her to the library, so now she makes the parents agree to provide necessary resources).

It's a lot more work. But those kids leave there knowing what plagiarism is and how to cite their sources.

1,264 posted on 02/03/2005 10:29:09 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: no one in particular

Is not happy day with contacts.

I'm wondering if the bifocals would really be that bad...


1,265 posted on 02/03/2005 10:34:14 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Good for her!

Perhaps she could ask them to hand in electronic copies of their assignments? That way, suspicious phrases can be copied into Google easily.


1,266 posted on 02/03/2005 10:43:20 AM PST by JenB
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To: JenB

Even if the offer comes quick, it can take over two months to close. So...selling before the wedding, I dunno! I'm not deciding anything until I know more.

Heh...just talked more with the real estate lady, and turns out they're showing the house to the girl who lived next door to me growing up. Interesting.


1,267 posted on 02/03/2005 10:45:16 AM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: JenB

Amazingly, some of these kids are computer challenged. And that's a concept I can't quite grasp.

Seems to me homeschooling parents should be ahead of the curve on technology. I know a lot are. But a lot at this school just aren't.


1,268 posted on 02/03/2005 10:45:55 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: ksen
LOL!

The VOTE of DOOOOOM! LOL!

1,269 posted on 02/03/2005 10:47:29 AM PST by Pippin (God bless the purple fingered Iraqi!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Well, there are some technophobic homeschoolers, and some who don't really have money for a computer. Or they have five kids and one PC.

You probably get a bit of a skewed view of homeschoolers, technologically at least, from me and Rosie. Growing up, we always had computers around. Dad would buy his old ones from work every 18 months or so; I had "my" first computer when I was 10. Over Christmas we had 7 computers in more or less working state in the house... but that's not necessarily what most homeschoolers have.


1,270 posted on 02/03/2005 10:49:11 AM PST by JenB
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To: RosieCotton

Interesting... Well, keep me posted!


1,271 posted on 02/03/2005 10:49:41 AM PST by JenB
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To: JenB

Her parents are my Dad's next door neighbors. According to Stephen, her Dad is really pushing her to buy a house instead of renting like she has been doing. And she'd be looking for just a two bedroom place, as inexpensive as possible.

Hm...


1,272 posted on 02/03/2005 10:51:57 AM PST by RosieCotton (A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. - GK Chesterton)
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To: JenB; RosieCotton
Well, there are some technophobic homeschoolers, and some who don't really have money for a computer. Or they have five kids and one PC.

I understand. But trust me, money isn't an issue with most of these parents. If they wanted to figure out a way to help their kids become computer savvy, they could.

1,273 posted on 02/03/2005 10:52:16 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands; JenB

It sure is a lot easier to ~catch~ plagiarisers in the age of Google. With more and more texts being published on the web, you can type in a key sentence or paragraph and if it's published, someone else has probably got it on a website.

Much easier than the old days.


1,274 posted on 02/03/2005 10:52:52 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life!)
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To: RosieCotton

Hmmm... sounds like something just might work out...


1,275 posted on 02/03/2005 10:53:00 AM PST by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog

Yup, absolutely. That's how we caught our guy. Our research was based exclusively on journal articles and so theyw ere all online, so we Google'd the suspicious phrases (actually, every phrase except one turned out to be plagiarised)

Time to document him completely: an hour and a half. I even used colored highlighters on the printout.


1,276 posted on 02/03/2005 10:54:12 AM PST by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog; JenB

Well, it's even easier when most of them are doing their research online. There's only a handful that don't have access.

Still, many of those that do have access lack the necessary skills.

Last week she showed them "cut and paste."


1,277 posted on 02/03/2005 10:57:19 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Well see.... now that they know cut and paste, they're dangerous ;~D


1,278 posted on 02/03/2005 10:58:50 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Only if they forget to cite their source.


1,279 posted on 02/03/2005 10:59:51 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Yeah, but my mom can't cut and paste either... I wonder sometimes how I learned it, since I don't remember anyone ever teaching me computer skills.


1,280 posted on 02/03/2005 10:59:52 AM PST by JenB
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