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I need help with marriage troubles (vanity)

Posted on 12/20/2004 6:41:03 AM PST by kerouacbal

I am 26 years old and have been married for 2 years. I am having trouble growing up and I am driving my wife nuts. It has gotten to the point that my wife talks about divorce almost every day. I want to work this out more then I every wanted anything but I can't seem to do it or do it quick enough. I can't seem to remember consistently to do every day things like take out the garbage make sure all the doors are locked and the heat is off at night (there is a lot more but won't get into it all). I am posting this here to try to get some advise on how to help my self grow up and start to take care of my wife and son better like a husband should. My parents are dead and I don't have a close family member or friend to get advise from. Could someone please help me.


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To: advance_copy

I'm in agreement with your post 166. This guy's post cannot be taken at face value. Something big is missing: the wife's faults. That said it all to me. If he really were a miserable spouse, he would be angry and blaming her for this, not admitting guilt and seeking advice. This is not the post of a bad husband and father.


201 posted on 12/20/2004 7:32:13 AM PST by King Black Robe
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To: johniegrad

Agree. 10. Off with his head!

Now take out the trash & shut off the light behind you!


202 posted on 12/20/2004 7:32:29 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: johniegrad

I stand corrected - the analogy should have been willingly jumping into waters that have been chummed.


203 posted on 12/20/2004 7:33:00 AM PST by asgardshill (Cost of the ink in a signature: .016 cent. A fallen American soldier's life: Priceless.)
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To: johniegrad; kerouacbal

It sounds to me like you are in an abusive relationship. The whole, "I need to grow up" thing sounds like an abused woman explaining why it is her fault she gets beaten because the scrambled eggs are a little runny. You taking full responsibility for something that is clearly an issue with both of you is a big sign. That plus her refusal to go to counseling. She doesn't have a problem with the way things are right now...she is in the driver's seat. She isn't physically beating you, she is emotionally beating you...largely with insults to your manhood and threats of divorce.

My diagnosis: spousal abuse. And you are on the receiving end.

Treatment: Perhaps the 'learn to slap a ho' isn't to far off (I am aware of one abused woman who put an end to it real quick after smacking her abusive boyfriend with a hot frying pan...they even managed to work it out at least for a little while...don't know if they are still together.) But the point is that you both need help. You to get out of your victim complex and her to get out of her abusive ways. The abuse needs to end. If that can happen together, great. If it doesn't, you need to get out, and take your son with you. Documentation will be very important, as the courts strongly favor women, but you cannot allow your son to grow up in an emotionally abusive environment.

All that said, I could be totally off base. And if you have you the abused victim complex, you will insist that I am.


204 posted on 12/20/2004 7:33:03 AM PST by blanknoone (The two big battles left in the War on Terror are against our State dept and our media.)
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To: alisasny; kerouacbal
Also your wife needs to be checked out for post-partum depression and possibly thyroid deficiencies..... Seriously she is very lucky to be a stay at home mom in todays America.

Excellent points about the possibility of post-partum problems.

When our children were young and my husband was working many hours of overtime, I still had the primary responsibilities for housework and keeping things organized (bill paying, filing, etc.) It was very hard sometimes and there were times we both had to split the work up, like when two kids were tandem vomiting all night long or something like that.

But in general if a husband is going to work and *responsibly* supporting a wife and child (i.e. no mistresses, no porn-for-pay, no drinking parties etc.), then it's a two way street when the wife is at home with a small child. The wife in general (again, from my experience) needs to take on a lot of those household chores herself. I don't know about this particular situation, but in general it's not reasonable for a wife at home to expect her husband to do housework too. If she's working fulltime as well, then that's a different story - then they both do have to split the chores. But a woman at home is primarily a *housewife* - and that means taking care of the house as well as the child.

205 posted on 12/20/2004 7:33:11 AM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: camle

There's old bikers and bold bikers.

There's just no such thing as an "Old, Bold" biker.


206 posted on 12/20/2004 7:33:15 AM PST by Al Gator
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To: RayBob

Oh man...there are two sides to every story and usually the truth lies somewhere in the middle.


207 posted on 12/20/2004 7:33:26 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: kerouacbal
You have a baby and divorce is not an option. Take out the stinking garbage and start acting like a Father. Your wife needs to quit talking about divorce and you need to start going to church to seek counseling. Also, the baby is adding stress and it is normal to act out. You need to do what is right for the child. Divorce is not an option with a baby.

Merry Christmas to Our Troops

208 posted on 12/20/2004 7:33:44 AM PST by bray (Keep Christ in the Manger!)
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To: kerouacbal
Hi kerouacbal. You have a lot of advice here my friend. Much of it sincere, some of it just silly. Has your wife been divorced before? Does she come from a family of divorce? The reason that I ask is that some here would suggest that crying divorce all the time means that she's already got someone else in mind. That's not really the case. She may simply be trying to get your attention in the only way she knows how.

Take the advice of those with long marriages. Those who are bitter about marriage or women because of divorce are a mirror of where you'll be for the rest of your life if you take what appears to be the easy road.

In a previous post you seemed a bit hostile to organized religion...something about hypocrisy. The truth is that we are all hypocrites in some form or fashion. Don't let a crummy church keep you from a relationship with God. You own a Bible, pick it up and give it a read before you make any rash decisions. We're all hypocrites, but He was not. Talk to Him, He has more answers than any of us here.
209 posted on 12/20/2004 7:34:23 AM PST by Leonard210
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To: Guenevere
Morning Prayer:

It's been a good day so far, Lord

Thank You

I haven't yelled at anyone, I haven't said anything stupid, or hurt anyone's feelings.

I'm getting out of bed now, so if You would, help me make the rest of the day just as pleasant.

210 posted on 12/20/2004 7:34:27 AM PST by concretebob (but what do I know, I'm just an ignorant peasant)
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To: camle
nobody notices mature riders, and that's the way to live long. maybe IF you live to get my age you'll realize how people like you mess it up for everybody else.

I guess when I do get that old, can't handle the rush anymore and have to get an early start on my ride to make it back in time for "Matlock," I'll buy a Harley or a Goldwing. I don't jump out of airplanes for a living anymore, this is the only rush I have.
211 posted on 12/20/2004 7:34:59 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: antivenom

Which is never a good thing in any marriage.


212 posted on 12/20/2004 7:35:25 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: King Black Robe
Backbone is essential. He needs to stay reasonable and admit his error, but he shouldn't slip into being a whipping boy.

Oh man...I married into a family where all the married men were wipping boys. Needless to say, the first couple years of my marriage were challenging...but through communication and changing ourselves, my wife, nor I are pushovers or military instructors.

213 posted on 12/20/2004 7:36:06 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: kerouacbal

Oh yeah, one more thing (again). You don't suspect your wife of having a drinking problem, do you?

Incessant bitching, belittling, and demands are control freak tendancies that can originate from alcoholism.

If that is a possibility, FReepmail me.


214 posted on 12/20/2004 7:37:05 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Al Gator

when i started to ride, I was the first mamber of my family to ride - I caught all sorts of aggrivation from kith and kin. I decided to find someone who had ridden for 20 years and ride like him. soon I discovered that that's how he managed to live long anough to ride for 20 years.

second rider in the family was mom, BION. she rode a scooter for ten years when she had to hang it up. still has it.


215 posted on 12/20/2004 7:37:27 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: kerouacbal
Good news: You notice that you have a problem. Great first step. From your posts, it looks like you feel your problem is forgetfulness or lack of focus.

For a man your age this is not unusual. But the persistence of the condition, even in the face of powerful incentives to behave otherwise, may indicate something more. I would agree with others on the forum that seeking professional medical/psychological advice may be an alternative.

You mention that you have a pretty good job. Do they offer an employee assistance program? These can often be low-cost opportunities for consultation with a professional. If you feel confident in their promises of confidentiality, you may wish to pursue that. But in any case, do something, and make sure your wife knows you are doing something. She may react very positively to the fact that you're recognizing the problem and taking affirmative steps to deal with it.

I've been around ADHD for a long time. Some of the symptoms you describe sound very familiar. I would encourage you to see a psychologist first. They have several tests that they can administer that will help them understand what may be going on. But also a word of caution, ADHD is often something diagnosed right away. ADHD should be a default diagnosis, meaning all other possibilities should be eliminated first.

Good luck to you, and stay as far away from the military as you can. Your lack of focus would be extremely dangerous to you and to your fellow soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines. If you think you're having trouble coping with what this problem is doing to your family, imagine the problem if your actions/inactions injured or killed another soldier.

Get help, tell your wife you're seeking help, and do everything you can to keep your family together. No one can replace you in your child's life.

216 posted on 12/20/2004 7:38:01 AM PST by timpad (The Wizard Tim - Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade, Finder of Obscurata)
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To: speed_addiction

"I don't jump out of airplanes for a living anymore, this is the only rush I have."

Hey Speedo, understand both sides of this coin. Its just that those of us who take the time to lobby at the state houses have gotten those "bold" rider stats jammed up our butts, to no end.

Responsiblity, its a GOOD thing! :-)


217 posted on 12/20/2004 7:38:18 AM PST by Al Gator
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To: Pukin Dog
So, get your ass off the Internet and into your Church and Bible long enough to understand your responsibilities as a man, husband and leader.

HALLELUJAH!!!

218 posted on 12/20/2004 7:38:37 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

Good for you for being wise enough to see and deal with it.


219 posted on 12/20/2004 7:39:24 AM PST by King Black Robe
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To: kerouacbal

Odds are her mother bitched at her father over the same things.


John


220 posted on 12/20/2004 7:40:08 AM PST by jrfaug06
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