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Scientific maverick's theory on Earth's core up for a test
SF Chronicle ^ | Monday, November 29, 2004 | Keay Davidson

Posted on 12/05/2004 11:17:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Researchers are preparing to test the highly controversial theory of a San Diego scientist, J. Marvin Herndon, who thinks a huge, natural nuclear reactor or "georeactor" -- a vast deposit of uranium several miles wide -- exists at Earth's core, thousands of miles beneath our feet... [I]t might help to explain otherwise puzzling phenomena of planetary science, such as fluctuations in the intensity of Earth's magnetic field... If Herndon's theoretical nuclear reactor really exists, then it should be gushing out antineutrinos that would fly through the roughly 4,000 miles of solid rock and emerge at the Earth's surface.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; Travel; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: energy; gabon; geomagnetism; georeactor; ironsun; jmarvinherndon; nuclear; nukes; oliverkmanuel; olivermanuel; science
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1 posted on 12/05/2004 11:17:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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three examples from the Google search:

America's Indoctrinated Youth
African Crisis ^ | 11 August 2002 | Jan Lamprecht
Posted on 08/11/2002 5:32:58 PM PDT by JanL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/731503/posts

Jupiter's Spots Disappear Amid Major Climate Change
Space.com ^ | 21 April 2004 | Robert Roy Britt
Posted on 04/21/2004 2:04:19 PM PDT by Yo-Y
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1121982/posts

Sun's rays to roast Earth as poles flip
The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 11/10/2002 | Robin McKie
Posted on 11/09/2002 5:59:37 PM PST by Pokey78
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/786012/posts


2 posted on 12/05/2004 11:19:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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"georeactor marvin herndon"
Google

3 posted on 12/05/2004 11:23:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv
you have to 'howl with the wolves' or you don't survive.

That's true, because now you are bucking so many vested interests when you propose something oppostie the entrenched establishment. Einstein would never had made it in the current environment.

4 posted on 12/05/2004 11:48:07 AM PST by xJones
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To: SunkenCiv
A more precise way to do your search would be to put the following in your Google search box:

"marvin herndon" site:freerepublic.com

Or just click here.

This way, you only get articles that are actually on FreeRepublic, rather than articles that just happen to mention both Marvin Herndon and FreeRepublic.

5 posted on 12/05/2004 12:55:33 PM PST by AZLiberty ("Insurgence" is futile.)
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To: SunkenCiv

We put detectors in flooded mines to detect particles from the sun. The water provided shielding. Shielding from radiation from inside instead of outside?


6 posted on 12/05/2004 3:11:04 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (>)
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To: UCANSEE2

None of this should be a surprise. The planet Earth is a very complicated vehicle. There is massive solar energy which uses the poles as a carrier, the generation of ozone, the interfield exchange of electrical flux between the ground/sky, upper/lower atmosphere, upper/space zone, then there are the Van Allen Radiation Belts. And those are just some of the 'causes' of the makeup and behavior of Earth within our solar system.

We can be hit by massive bursts of radiation from our own sun or some nearby cosmic event.

Oil is a lubricant produced by barely understood geological forces. What we suck out of the ground is the excess from the process.

Lightning occurs worldwide multiple times per second. Lightning occurs between the earth/sky and the sky/space.

Most of the 'dead' moons of solar system planets may be leftovers from the collision between the planet that became Earth, and a wandering planet from the crossing of our galaxy and another.

We are trying to explain the whole Universe, and we barely understand the Earth.


7 posted on 12/05/2004 3:28:16 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (>)
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To: AZLiberty

Ooooh... I like that... thanks, I'll try that from now on. Maybe I can build it into my template...


8 posted on 12/05/2004 5:32:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: AZLiberty

More precise, but less effective, because some of the URLs found in the first search are IP numbers rather than domain name. Oh well, useful information anyway, and your method turned up this.

Yellowstone More Volcanically Active than Previously Estimated
Space Daily ^ | 07/19/2002 | Brooke Shiley
Posted on 07/26/2002 11:14:29 AM PDT by cogitator
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/722866/posts?page=32#32


9 posted on 12/05/2004 5:36:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Herndon's page regarding Helium-3:

"One thought to consider. Three of the four giant gaseous planets, Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune, presently radiate nearly twice as much energy into space as they each receive from the Sun. Their internally generated energy, presumably from planetary-scale nuclear fission reactors, is responsible for their turbulent atmospheres. By contrast, Uranus radiates little or no internally generated energy and has a quiescent, featureless appearance. Has Uranus’ nuclear reactor already reached the end of its lifetime?"

http://www.nuclearplanet.com/helium3_evidence.htm


10 posted on 12/05/2004 5:56:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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The July 2002 issue of Discover had this article:
The Strange Case of the Iron Sun
by Solana Pyne
In the late 1960s, chemist Oliver Manuel made a small but staggering discovery about meteorites. He noticed that the abundances of certain elements in meteorites were distinctly different from those in the Earth and much of the solar system. This observation spurred research showing that our solar system probably formed from material generated in many different stars. For Manuel, it also spawned a radical theory about the origins of our solar system, which he has doggedly pursued for forty years. Nearly all astronomers agree that the Sun and the rest of the planets formed from an amorphous cloud of gas and dust 4.6 billion years ago. But Manuel argues, based on his compositional data, that the solar system was created by a dramatic stellar explosion--a supernova--and that the iron-encased remnant of the progenitor star still sits at the center of the Sun.

11 posted on 12/05/2004 6:04:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Jumpin Jupiter

12 posted on 12/05/2004 6:06:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Jovian Planets
Eric W. Weisstein
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/JovianPlanets.html

"Jupiter is so massive that H2 probably becomes metallic... Jupiter is also warm enough so that He should be miscible in the liquid metallic hydrogen. Because Saturn is less massive than Jupiter, the transition to metallic hydrogen may occur at r 0.45 . Since Saturn is smaller, it will have a cooler interior, so He will have begun to precipitate in the H liquid. A silicate-metallic core should be at the planets center. Uranus and Neptune are not massive enough to convert hydrogen to a metallic state. However, it is likely that a mixture of water and hydrogen is surrounding a rocky core. A liquid ocean between the two is also possible."


13 posted on 12/05/2004 6:09:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv
Funny about the IP numbers. I wonder what's up with that.

You might also be interested in the new scholar.google.com, which indexes articles in scholarly journals. For example, searching for Marvin Herndon on scholar.google.com turns up 11 results, some of which are publicly available.

14 posted on 12/05/2004 9:51:56 PM PST by AZLiberty ("Insurgence" is futile.)
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To: AZLiberty

Yeah, thanks again, someone pointed that out the other day, and I've been using it a little (and for a couple years or so, http://www.scirus.org/).


15 posted on 12/06/2004 4:55:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: AZLiberty
Even more results (157) for "J. Marvin Herndon" --
Google

16 posted on 12/06/2004 4:59:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: timer
Solar System Formation Deduced
from Observations of Matter

by J. Marvin Herndon
August 9, 2004
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Aspects of our Solar System’s formation are deduced from observations of the chemical nature of matter. Massive cores are indicative of terrestrial-planet-composition-similarity to enstatite chondrite meteorites, whose highly-reduced state of oxidation may be thermodynamically stable in solar matter only at elevated temperatures and pressures. Consistent with the formation of Earth as envisioned by Arnold Eucken, thermodynamic considerations lead to the deduction that the terrestrial planets formed by liquid-condensation, raining out from the central regions of hot, gaseous protoplanets. The mass of protoplanetary-Earth... is similar to the mass of Jupiter... Hans Suess and I demonstrated from thermodynamic considerations that the oxidized iron content of the silicates of ordinary chondrites is inconsistent with formation from solar matter, as purported by the “equilibrium condensation” model, and instead is indicative of their formation from a gas phase depleted in hydrogen by a factor of about 1000 relative to solar composition (Herndon & Suess 1977). Subsequently, I showed that oxygen depletion, relative to solar matter, was also required, otherwise essentially all of the elements would be observed combined with oxygen as they are in the hydrous C1 carbonaceous chondrites (Table 1). I also showed that if the mineral assemblage characteristic of ordinary chondrites could exist in equilibrium with a gas of solar composition, it is at most only at a single low temperature, if at all (Herndon 1978). Such a mineral assemblage, therefore, cannot legitimately be assumed to be a primary Solar System condensate. Instead, the ordinary chondrite meteorites appear to have formed from a mixture of two components, re-evaporated after separation from solar gases, one component being an oxidized primitive matter like C1 chondrites, the other being a partially differentiated planetary component from enstatite-chondrite-like matter (Herndon 2004b).
from a "Google Scholar" search.

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17 posted on 12/06/2004 5:07:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: AZLiberty
scholar search for "Iron sun oliver manuel":
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18 posted on 12/06/2004 5:15:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Solar Abundance of the Elements
O. Manuel, C. Bolon and A. Katragada
Nuclear Chemistry, University of Missouri
Abstract. When photospheric abundances are corrected for the mass fractionation seen across the isotopes of solar wind implanted noble gases, the most abundant elements in the bulk Sun are the same ones Harkins found in 1917 to comprise 99% of ordinary meteorites: Fe, Ni, O, Si, S, Mg and Ca. The nuclei of these elements are products of advanced stellar evolution. Nuclear systematics suggest the possibility of a short-range n-n repulsion (10-22 MeV/nucleon) that might generate part of its luminosity if the Sun formed on the collapsed core of a supernova. The remainder may then come from fusion of H generated by neutron decay.

19 posted on 12/06/2004 5:18:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Nuclear georeactor origin of oceanic basalt 3He/4He, evidence, and implications
J. Marvin Herndon
Proceedings of The National Academy of Sciences
2003 March 18
Nuclear georeactor numerical simulation results and the observed high 3He/4He ratios measured in Icelandic and Hawaiian oceanic basalts indicate that the demise of the georeactor is approaching, but the time is not yet precisely determined. As the georeactor dies, the geomagnetic field that it presumably powers after a time will begin to collapse. But unlike previous geomagnetic collapses, that have restarted and re-energized the field, a time will come when the actinide fuel of the georeactor is too diminished to initiate self-sustaining neutron-induced chain reactions; the georeactor will die and sometime thereafter the geomagnetic field will die and will not restart. At some point in time after the georeactor dies, there will be no geomagnetic field and life on Earth will never be the same. The challenge now is to determine precisely the time of georeactor demise. Within the present level of uncertainty, one cannot say whether that time will come in the next century, in the next millennium, in a million years, or in a billion years. But one thing is certain: georeactor demise will occur.

20 posted on 12/06/2004 5:21:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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