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If Hillary Clinton Is a Presidential Nominee in 2008 Would Any "Red" States Turn "Blue"?
Nov. 5, 2004 | BIOCHEMKY

Posted on 11/05/2004 1:42:17 PM PST by BIOCHEMKY

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To: WoodstockCat
She would rally their base unlike Kerry was able to.

Kerry did carry his base, it's just that Bush's base is bigger.
41 posted on 11/05/2004 2:01:05 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: Roccus

If HRC gets nominated, the only color we have to worry about is BROWN (as in shirts)



If HRC gets elected, the only color we have to worry about is BROWN (as in shorts)


42 posted on 11/05/2004 2:01:10 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: abc1

"If Hillary Clinton Is a Presidential Nominee in 2008 Would Any "Red" States Turn "Blue"?"

They could indeed turn blue if the Republican nominee raped a nun in broad day light and then lied about.


43 posted on 11/05/2004 2:02:08 PM PST by bilhosty
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To: Bon mots

She's been over-rated and will never go farther than being an annoying New York Senator - just like Fat Ted Kennedy can't get out of Massachusetts."

A great reason for the Dems to run her ... just look at the fun we will have !

Clinton / Pelosi 2008 !


44 posted on 11/05/2004 2:02:10 PM PST by RS (Just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: BIOCHEMKY

her strategy will be this - take Richardson as VP, and go hard in states where a tip in the Hispanic vote could give it to her. Take all the states Kerry won - add NM (5)Arizona (10) Nevada (4) - Kerry got 252, she needs 19. AZ+NM+NV=19. Colorado is also becoming more hispanic, in case she nees another possible state.

that's her electoral strategy I think.


45 posted on 11/05/2004 2:02:33 PM PST by oceanview
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To: BIOCHEMKY

Hillary Clinton/Howard Dean in 2008 vs. Evan Bayh/Condi Rice.


46 posted on 11/05/2004 2:02:48 PM PST by The Loan Arranger ("This We'll Defend")
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To: Beelzebubba

LOL!


47 posted on 11/05/2004 2:03:09 PM PST by Roccus
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To: clee1

I agree, not to many people would vote for Hillary go in the WHite House. The Democrats may think this is a good idea, but in the end I think they'll see it is really dumb. They would lose, hands down!


48 posted on 11/05/2004 2:03:18 PM PST by Halls
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To: Prime Choice
Run Conde against her, female, black, highly intelligent and very likable, in addition to her eloquence and she looks like a real women.
49 posted on 11/05/2004 2:04:31 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: BIOCHEMKY

No.

John


50 posted on 11/05/2004 2:05:07 PM PST by John_7Diamonds
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To: BIOCHEMKY

If Hillary runs, the Democrat nomination is hers. The primaries would be a series of coronation ceremonies.

The MSM and Hollywood idiots would swoon like you've never imagined. It would look to the casual observer like a freight train heading toward a Democrat landslide.

It would be a landslide. It would be a bigger GOP landslide than Nixon vs McGovern or Reagan vs Mondale. It would be the most polarized election this century. As rabid as the Hillary core would be the contingent scared to death of her... and they would outnumber Hillary's feminist/socialist/communist brigade by 3 to 1.

It would take one of the GOP's biggest, most inept dopes in history to lose to Hillary. This doesn't mean the stupid party couldn't rise to the occasion (and that is a frightening thought). After all, we managed to let Hillary's husband win twice when he should have been skunked both times.

Frankly, as big as the GOP win seems this time, it's less than it should have been. It's amazing we didn't win by 10 million votes given the weakness of the opposition.

Without incredible incompetence on the right, I don't think the left can win a national election. The more liberal the candidate, the worse their chances and few are more liberal or polarizing than Hillary.


51 posted on 11/05/2004 2:05:35 PM PST by Entrepreneur
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To: OpusatFR

Vote for Bill's wife.....again


52 posted on 11/05/2004 2:05:45 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: BIOCHEMKY
A lot depends on the GOP candidate, but Missus Clinton on her own isn't likely to turn many heads. For all her genius , Hillary! really isn't articulate. Every transcript bears it out. That's why she's only seen in scripted or softball interviews. She can't think on her feet, so she'd be massacred in a debate (tho' she might get sympathy from those who think of her as a woman). That leaves her speech-making abilities: screechy, preachy, and witchy. It should be fun, though, watching to see if any of the men of her own party try to unseat her (which'll require a winch).
53 posted on 11/05/2004 2:06:00 PM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: Alberta's Child

you post these points here - which I agree with by the way, it will become increasingly hard for a conservative Republican to win in the future because of these (and other) trends.

then, on the other thread, you tell me Rudy is a sure loser. But you can't tell me how the Dems make up for a loss of NY and NJ on the electoral map. which states will Hillary win that Bush won in 2004, if Rudy is the candidate?


54 posted on 11/05/2004 2:06:00 PM PST by oceanview
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To: BIOCHEMKY
Would Any "Red" States Turn "Blue"?

NOT WITHOUT HUGE VOTER FRAUD. Hopefully by then this problem will be less and less like Jeb Bush did in Florida. The cheating counties were unable to find fraud ballots because of these changes!!!!

55 posted on 11/05/2004 2:06:07 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: WestTexasWend

hahaha...sorry! That'll teach me not to use the word "genius" and Hillary! in the same sentence!


56 posted on 11/05/2004 2:07:26 PM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: Prime Choice
If Hillary runs, our best offense will be to run a Conservative against her...not a Democrat Lite RINO.

Without a doubt. A RHINO would hand the election to her on a silver platter.
57 posted on 11/05/2004 2:08:10 PM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: ken5050

Don't forget that they gave Michael Moore front and center at the convention with Jimmy Carter.


58 posted on 11/05/2004 2:08:23 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: BIOCHEMKY

Bayh would be the practical best choice. He's young and attractive, but not the silk pony. He has an attractive family as well. He has been elected and re-elected easily in a red state whose Electoral Votes he would carry, and which is the junction of the Midwest and the South. He's the only one I can see who could possibly turn red states blue.

On the other hand, his vaunted appearance at the DNC convention in either 92 or 96 bombed. He was to have been that year's Obama. Also, he has the same Gore handicap of actually growing up the son of a senator in DC and, I think, attending St. Albans.

I see no other Dem on the horizon who has his assets for appealing to the general public.

OR we could try to have him switch parties. Other than family tradition, I've never figured out why he's a Dem anyway.


59 posted on 11/05/2004 2:09:49 PM PST by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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To: BIOCHEMKY

NO


60 posted on 11/05/2004 2:11:28 PM PST by jim from cleveland (W04&4more)
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