Posted on 10/02/2004 3:48:27 PM PDT by Quix
QX NOTE: Since mentioning the below in a very sparse thread, a well known FREEPER has reported a similar dream. Another FREEPER, who probably knows more than many of the rest of us put togehter, said it was . . . my words . . . compatible with other . . . data.
If you FREEPMAIL them, please let me know if I can post them anonymously on this thread. Blessings, QX
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The AP List
October 2, 2004
Meri Burlingame: Moderator
Even as many had dreams indicating in July and August that September would be a month of storms, others have had dreams saying that October would be a month of terrorism. May we be found standing in the breach as the Lord would direct us.
Meri
[QX NOTE: Meri is a long term, close friend and Sister in The Lord].
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Tracey DesLauriers
September 4. 2004 5:03am.........had this dream three times...
I am standing outside, and approximately about 20 feet away from me, I see what looks like a big globe of the world.
As I begin to walk towards it, I am then lifted up far above this globe, and can now look down , and see the whole universe.
As I look far over towards the left, I see a darkening in the sky. In a blink of an eye, it strikes me that it has the resemblance of New York…the stock exchange buildings and business area. I then become aware, that as this situation is occurring, that in other parts of the world, there seem to be simultaneous attacks.
Although, I am not certain, of the exact places these attacks are also occurring, I do notice, that oil refineries, are being blown up, and I notice there seems to be those of Arabic descent as well as what appears to be Iraq, is now once again, under heavy attack, with air attacks, and ground forces, attacking just as they did in the beginning of the war…many lives are lost.
As this takes place, I look to my right, and see more destruction, and terror and death.
As I awoke, I was in tears, and kept hearing "Oct will be a significant month, Winds Of Change…Watch and Pray"
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Meri Burlingame
AP List Moderator
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LOL!
GOD HAVE MERCY on us all.
Not my impression but you were joking anyway! I hope!
I was referring to your post, which contained not one whit of truth
Another one was a vision of a helicopter door in a large body of water. It gave me the shivers because of the time I had the dream. I'm relieved to say nothing drastic happened. but I stull have the dream abour Middle-Eastern men attacking the president's limosine, killing several SS agents and hijacking the car with the president in it, it was scary.
I wish I was joking, so I've been stepping up my prayers for GWB and his family and for our country.
Calling
THE TRUTH
about
HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS WORK
BS
is NOT a good . . .
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Sometimes its just a lack of understanding. God is patient, He knows the heart of a man (or a woman), He understands desire to learn, and somethings just scare people. We lay precept upon precept. It comes at all levels. The salvation message will pull people, but yet their feet glue to the floor...fear,pride (what will people think). The baptism of water or even the Holy Spirit...also will pull...again fear, feet glued to floor. Don't take it so personal.....no where in scripture does God say we have to Prove anything. He said He would confirm His word. Its not about us...its about HIM. We just have to be willing to take a good look inside ourselves and see what our motives are. And look at fruit, what are we producing? AND don't forget the milk drinkers and the meat eaters...some are just not ready to eat meat, they grow to that point. (HOPEFULLY) Me? I'd rather have a big juicy rare steak over a glass of milk anyday, but it is a little more work to get it down.....rofl!!!
Don't blame you, I think sometimes I'm going crazy!
This is why I've kept that dream to myself these past three years.
Knew it! after reading #743, you'd porbably think I'm crazy!
Don't blame you, I think sometimes I'm going crazy!
This is why I've kept that dream to myself these past three years.
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Well God's people are a peculiar people...lol. I tend to agree with you. No dreams but just this fear in my stomach for Pres. Bush. I feel like we are at a forks in the road, our choices on who will lead this country is as different as day and night. Should this country choose Kerry and believe me after Clinton beating Bush years ago, nothing surprises me. I will be in a state of mourning for what is to come on this country. p.s. I don't think your crazy.
When it comes to the election and the choice between Pres. Bush and Sen. Kerry, I get nervouse thinking that the country will reject a real leader for a phoney flip-floper and a dangerouse man.
Amen to that. You save me from saying it.
When it comes to the election and the choice between Pres. Bush and Sen. Kerry, I get nervouse thinking that the country will reject a real leader for a phoney flip-floper and a dangerouse man.
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I agree and if that happens....watch out. I'm afraid this country is about to be judged. Of course then I try to look at...Judgement begins in the house of the Lord. I know the church is a people, living stones not buildings of brick and mortar. Is my feelings to take a good look at myself and am I really what I should be part of that? Or the beginning of it? I don't know. I just know, this country has become far to wicked and rebellious. Most of it wants God out of everything. They call bad good..and good bad. Prez. Bush is a good man and he is hated far worse than one could imagine, and for what? Because he is a man of faith? Because he has principals? He doesn't want to kill unborn children, he doesn't want to see gay marriage. Very Very scary times we live in, that is for sure.
Blessings to all, you too Quix.
Hey!! Don't go away, I personally don't feel your infringing and maybe you were drawn here for a reason!!
Its not my thread but I sure haven't minded our discussions. It can be hard when you are typing and posting, people can't see your facial expressions, they misunderstand your intentions. I don't want to make a deal, I want you to stay. You DO NOT have my permission to leave!!! lol
Thank you for your kind words. I have found your discussions very gratifying. =)
Oops! I broke my promise. Darn ;)
I have found your discussions very gratifying. =)
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No Thank you. I like a fiesty little terrier personality. :)
I think there are just alot of things you don't understand, but I do believe your intentions to be good. Even when you're growling....rofl. You guard yourself well, does that mean alot of hurts and disappointments in life or worse? Actually you remind me of me, 20 yrs. ago.
Take Care UsnDadof8.....jeeesshh can't people have pronouncable names? lol God Bless...
My prayer for you is that God opens your heart and mind, that HE takes away all past hurt and disappointment, and that your relationship with Him grows to the point where you think your heart will explode with Love for Him. That you find the truth you seek and only Truth because that will make you free, and that He blesses you abundantly. Amen.
I also want it known that I don't spite anyone here for their beliefs. I just respectfully disagree. Thank you Briar for being a peacemaker. We all know how it goes for the peacemakers...
OH, Sorry. I thought you were talking about USNDAD vs George W.
I've also had some concerns about him being abducted. I say we pray against all such possibilities.
I strongly encourage you to share your dream with the Sec Serv. Doesn't matter what they think. You could even address it to a Pentecostal Secret Service member, name unknown. They could pray about it.
But there may be some reconassaince sp. details that the Service knows or will discover which could mesh with details of your dream and give them a critical head's up ahead of time that could be lifesaving.
PTL for your sensitivity!
The EXISTENCE of TRUTH
and one's
CAPACITY
to detect it
and one's
CAPACITY AND WILLINGNESS
to understand it
ARE
*VERY*
DIFFERENT THINGS
sometimes!
You illustrate the point alarmingly well.
Soli Deo Gloria -- Everything is to be done only for the glory of God.
Solo Christo -- Salvation is by Christ alone.
Sola Gratia -- Salvation is by grace of God alone.
Sola Fide -- Salvation is by faith alone.
"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." -- John 20:29.
All that comes to pass has already been known to God from before the foundation of the world. That is our great comfort -- that from before time God has written our names in the Book of Life and ordained that His Son die and be resurrected for our sins.
God wants us to understand. Faith brings clarity, not obscurity. When our hearts are regenerated by the grace of God our eyes are opened to His will. Thomas saw the truth firsthand and believed. But we believe by God's merciful gift of GRACE through Faith in things unseen. Christ was drawing a distinction between those who saw with their own eyes and those who would see with their hearts.
Which is more "blessed" and where does this new sight, this illuminating clarity come from?
And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him. And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly." -- Mark 8:21-25."And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?
We ALL see men as trees walking unless and until God opens our eyes and rebirths our stone, cold heart.
So because we are not Thomas, but among those whom God has chosen to follow Him and receive His grace through faith in His Son, faith in things unseen, we believe.
GREAT WISDOM IN YOUR POST. THANKS.
Believe it or not, I do earnestly TRY to be sensitive and obedient regarding those points, issues etc.
Have learned the hard way that God has honed and fired me into a particular kind of tool. I still try, rightly, to be able to be fittingly all things to all people as Holy Spirit leads. And, I certainly want to avoid the hammer seeing every problem as a nail.
However, there are certain contexts, personalities, issues etc. wherein . . . though it seems at present like the opposite of what I desire is occurring--and probably is--at present . . . have learned that Holy Spirit has an amazing capacity to make use of all the aspects of the . . . interaction months and years down the road. Not my preference or way but . . . who am I.
I think I'm not taking it THAT personal. Most of my personal reference stuff is mosstly to highlight the hypocrisy on such matters. It doesn't raise my anxiety or pique 2%. Been there, done that. So what if XYZ or a city full of people think whatever about me. Nothing new there!
Much appreciate your wisdom.
I'm enormously convinced that USNDAD ASSUMES lists of things about my words just as he does about Scripture. I can't control either. But both are illustrative about how the RELIGIOUS SPIRIT preys on people.
I don't think he realizes that whatever trauma or hazard or whatever it is that I'm picking up on that's ahead--I don't think the will have a clue that IT WILL BE GOD'S MERCY AND LOVE TO HIM regardless of how traumatic and painful it is.
Nevertheless, it would likely still go better for him to have some warning about what's coming down the pike even if he discounts it and trashes it wholesale. Holy Spirit will still likely have an easier time convincing him in the middle of it, when the time comes, than if the thought had never crossed his consciousness. We shall see.
One could construe his response to be that of an increasingly hardened heart. But, that's usually paradoxical. Often the harder, the closer to breaking--to the point of being crushed and ground to powder--which seems long overdue.
Not a fun process.
Perhaps you can understand my press, eagerness of heart to get back to Taiwan/China while it's still possible!
Those countries have known tyranny for centuries. The version here will be much worse as people without any experience of it try it on for size as the
NEW GESTAPO with the divine right of NIHLISM to do ocean fulls of bloody work.
But, it won't be pretty anywhere except in God's safehavens.
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