Posted on 09/30/2004 9:57:45 PM PDT by IM4Real
I haven't heard much from the media about John Kerry's huge gaffe in last night's debate when he left Poland out of the list of allies who joined the United States in the liberation of Iraq. This is an especially egregious gaffe since Kerry is touting himself as someone who can bring a "real" coalition together. President Bush picked right up on it and pointed out Kerry had left out Poland. I thought it was very reminiscent of the second Presidential debate in 1976 between Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter.
"Ford's Remarks Startle Europeans; Poles Among the Most Bemused" Washington Post, Oct. 8, 1976; A8; By Peter Osnos The media made much of the foreign policy "gaffe" President Ford committed in his second debate with Jimmy Carter. In his remarks, Ford stated that the Soviet Union was not politically dominating the countries of Eastern Europe. The media interpreted this statement as completely contrary to the accepted view, which saw the countries of Eastern Europe, especially Poland, as being well within the Soviet sphere of influence.
Will the media be as quick to point out this gaffe as another John Kerry slight of a key ally in the war on terror?
"Ford's Remarks Startle Europeans; Poles Among the Most Bemused" Washington Post, Oct. 8, 1976; A8; By Peter Osnos The media made much of the foreign policy "gaffe" President Ford committed in his second debate with Jimmy Carter. In his remarks, Ford stated that the Soviet Union was not politically dominating the countries of Eastern Europe. The media interpreted this statement as completely contrary to the accepted view, which saw the countries of Eastern Europe, especially Poland, as being well within the Soviet sphere of influence.
Will the media be as quick to point out this gaffe as another John Kerry slight of a key ally in the war on terror?
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Kerry's gaffe of the night is "A Global Test." Strike 2 for saying we don't need bunker-buster bombs. Strike 3 for "Nuclear Fuel To Iran." Three Strikeeeees and Ketchup Boy's Out! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Let's call these three the Mother Of All Gaffes.
I agree.
Bush should have stood up straight, but he won on substance.
Unfortunately, Kerry won on style. But even then Bush came off as more genuine-- by miles.
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Le ZOTTE: My very IMPORTANT opinion on tonight's debate. VERY IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS VANITY! MUST READ!
Posted on 09/30/2004 10:56:49 PM CDT by Jim Robinson
NO ONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THIS SO IT DESERVES A THREAD OF ITS OWN!
I think each and every poster on FR should post a new thread stating his opinion on the debate. This way, instead of having only a few threads with hundreds of posts each (ie, discussion threads), we will have hundreds of threads, each with two comments. One the important opinion, and two, the complaint about vanity posts.
No, No they will not, but thank God for Fox, Rush, and Free Republic. We will pick up that fumble and others and we will score...
Got it!
I wish GWB would've pointed out that insulting Putin and Allawi in the debates isn't the way to build a coalition. "You don't treat people that way" would've resonated nicely, and cemented Kerry's elitism as yet another detrimental personal trait.
what was that nuclear fuel for Iran bit? I just watched about ten minutes while visiting my mom in the hospital...I heard that and thought...WTF...then turned it off..
I didn't see Lech Walesa laughing at Ford just four years later. Did anyone else?
They both missed Spain's contributions. They played a good sized role until that devastating terrorist bombing which brought down their government.
I didn't listen to the whole debate, but one time when Bush was listing our allies, he neglected to mention Howard in Australia. He could have used the support as the Australian elections draw near.
We hear you preaching to the converted, but since the President didn't directly address two of the three gaffes in the debate, it's more like 1 strike and 2 foul tips.
Kerry did well. It is likely that he has been preparing for the "debates" since the nomination.
We all know he is a RETARD, there is no way he could have pulled this off without help.
I definitively claim here and now that he had an earpiece, even embedded, and was being coached. If anyone has access to the airwaves of the covention, scan for voice transmission between Kerry and some unknown party. Kerry is a moron. There is no way he could have kept from trippin over his own answers and his own stupid ego without consulting someone else.
He's wired, dude.
You sound like you have experience. Does it still taste like pepper?
Respectfully beg to differ, sir. As anyone who watched young John Kerry in his testimony before Congress (shameful though it was), or in his "Dick Cavett" debate with Ed O'Neill knows, Kerry is extremely slippery and shallow, but a moron he aint.
Why lookie what we got here...A real live troll.
IMHO, he was well coached, whether in real time or not. I don't know if he had the questions in advance or not.
There were no big scores made, just a few small blows by each. Kerry looked good but for all of the flailing swings there wasn't much behind any of them.
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