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The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky
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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: JenB

In order:
Yes, he did and but of course!


5,941 posted on 08/26/2004 7:06:41 AM PDT by Empress (an equal-opprotunity absolute dictator.)
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To: Empress; TalonDJ
Welcome! Welcome! Would love to have a regular thread vet!

No, I don't know what the cause of the glaucoma was.... But he never got it in the other eye.

Here are my recent posts on it:

Posted by HairOfTheDog to HairOfTheDog; Flyer; technochick99; sinkspur; annyokie; Scott from the Left Coast; 88keys; ...
On General/Chat ^ 08/24/2004 4:19:43 PM PDT · 5,383 of 5,940 ^

I hope you all won't mind the abuse of my animal ping lists, but I have an animal or medical question that isn't about a horse or a dog, but that someone might have the answer to.

Anyone know anything about Glaucoma?

My cat has Glaucoma in one eye. That part isn't new, here's an old picture of what his eye has looked like for the past few years. The lens all grey like that, Iris wide open and fairly unresponsive to light. I don't think he sees anything out of it.

His right , your left, the eye.... it is just flash glare in his other eye, it's fine.

Here's how it looks today, and the change is recent. The lens looks like it has rotated around, and some black is now visible in the eye. It also now responds to light, ie, the iris closes in bright light.

It is just bulging compared to the other one... but not painful, and not irritated looking or watery... He likes me to rub his face, and rub over his eyes.

I have an appointment to take Gidget in tomorrow because she is limping ~again~. I am going to take him too. The last time this was looked at, I was warned that he could get Glaucoma in the other eye, but he hasn't, and I was warned that he might injure the bad eye on sharp objects because he has no blink reflex. If that happened, they would just remove it without a lot of expense. I could have had it treated but elected ~not~ to go to the $$$cat optometrist$$$.

Question is, as the pressure builds in his eye, and it bulges like that, will it ever just burst? What's up with the rotation of the lens?



Posted by HairOfTheDog to Overtaxed; RMDupree; 2Jedismom; osagebowman; RosieCotton; Corin Stormhands; All
On General/Chat ^ 08/25/2004 4:16:00 PM PDT · 5,764 of 5,940 ^

Well, I'm back.

Jeepers. We were at the vets a loooooong time. We got the slow vet... I like him, but he really takes his time... he sat looking in the cat's eye for a good long time, moving him this way and that, peering at it from every angle.... and he says "You know, I don't know if it's good news or bad news, but some of these things are just beautiful to look at!"

He thought the eye should go, unless I wanted to go to a kitty optometrist and try to save it, but he also has that cataract lens, and the lens is just floating around free in there now, that is why it changes now. The alternative to taking it out appears to be drops 3X per day to relieve the pressure for life. Kitty doesn't like the drops, it sounds like a pain.

The surgery is not cheap. It's gonna be $470-$600 egads. Can't you treat Glaucoma with Marijuana? Seems like I heard that somewhere. He said the glaucoma is indeed painful (I wouldn't have left it so long had I known about pain) but I really hadn't noticed any pain unless he's had a headache for three years and that's why he attacks the dog ;~D.

Gidget on the other hand, does not have a broken toe or any other joint or bone problem, so she's got a strain or a sprain or something, and we are just supposed to keep her quiet. Riiiiiiiight. Got her on Rimadyl again too.


Posted by HairOfTheDog to osagebowman
On General/Chat ^ 08/25/2004 6:34:21 PM PDT · 5,843 of 5,940 ^

It's just hard to determine whether it hurts right now, as is. I'd definately do the surgery if it did... if it was weepy or he rubbed it, or didn't like anyone rubbing it, or ~something~. He's scheduled for the surgery, but it's enough money that it matters in the equation that it doesn't seem to bother him.


Posted by HairOfTheDog to Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom
On General/Chat ^ 08/26/2004 6:08:48 AM PDT · 5,929 of 5,940 ^

I have the eye surgery appointment set. After my payday and fitting into his schedule it isn't till after Labor Day.

There are a lot of animal expenses that seem very necessary; Bay's colic... Fixing Gidget's leg would have been one, if the cat had ~injured~ his eye so it was an emergency.... But I really have mixed feelings about doing this eye surgery. Estimate $470 at the low, $670 at the high end if there are complications. I thought it would be cheaper, like less than $200, but he said it's a lot more involved than just pulling the eye out of the socket. Sure it's funny looking, but it doesn't seem to bother the cat. The vet says Glaucoma is painful.... but I see no sign of that or sensitivity in the cat, unless it is something more subtle like headaches, but he seems to be a happy enough cat. Crabby at the dog, but he purrs and snuggles and hunts and chases birds he'll never catch.... He seems normal.

~sigh~


5,942 posted on 08/26/2004 7:07:59 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Empress

Good on both points!

Where's your vet school?


5,943 posted on 08/26/2004 7:09:35 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

Which one? *chuckle*

I spent 3 years in Grenada, West Indies after undergrad in Texas and now I'm doing my final year in Ireland. Ireland's great, but I'm looking forward to getting back to the US and getting a job. (*gasp* positive income flow!)


5,944 posted on 08/26/2004 7:15:55 AM PDT by Empress (an equal-opprotunity absolute dictator.)
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To: Empress

Wow, that's amazing... I'd like to go somewhere cool. Didn't even get to do a study abroad like most of my friends because, well, there's really no good reason to do that in CS.

Positive income flow is nice...


5,945 posted on 08/26/2004 7:18:13 AM PDT by JenB
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To: ExGeeEye
What an ugly killing machine! Not a bit of wood anywhere!

Actually, I revere fine wood on a firearm. I've put a lot of work into walnut stocks, and appreciate the beauty of even ordinary black walnut. The fancy walnuts are objects of awe to me.

It's like having a classic car that you've lovingly restored. It sits in the garage being pampered, and taken out only under perfect weather conditions. Fine wood, and old-time slow-rust blueing are now rarities, and must be carefully preserved. My 1898 Krag is perhaps the most beautifully made firearm I have. Lousy design, even in its prime, but a wonderful tribute to the skill of gunmakers in those days.

Perhaps that's why we see synthetic or laminated stocks, non-glare finishes, and stainless steel in "using" guns today. Less labor, less costly materials, and you don't feel devastated if you get some nick or scratch on it.

Not that that rifle lives a hard life. It gets attention showered on it, but it's mechanical areas, rather than cosmetic. The biggest item, in terms of effort, was installing the single-set trigger. For safety reasons, I adjusted the single put to 6 pounds, but that's with zero creep and overtravel. The "set" letoff is 6 ounces. I could adjust it down to one ounce, but that's just a bit too scary. Oh, and I bought a digitial trigger-pull gauge to measure it.

Other improvments include a flash hider, scope mount with 20MOA downward slope, hand-lapped scope rings, and ultra-light firing pin. The Hensholdt 10x42 with BDC is no slouch, either.

For five times that amount, I could get a Remington 700 Safari Grade from their custom shop, after a one-year wait. Absolutely the finest fancy walnut stock done in the classic style (is there anything else?), old-time slow-rust blueing, some tasteful engraving, and every aspect of the rifle hand-tuned. Just as accurate as my rifle, but waaaaay too pretty to use. I'd have to put on white cotton gloves just to handle it.

5,946 posted on 08/26/2004 7:24:06 AM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: JenB

....unless you wanted to go to India.... but, perhaps they are also coming here ;~D


5,947 posted on 08/26/2004 7:26:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Empress

Well, again, Welcome! If you do make a "Hobbit" out of coming, I am sure we'll all be interested to hear your stories of your studies and your travels.... I am always interested in animal stories, I have Horse and Dog ping lists and follow those threads too.... See my profile by clicking my name, you can see my pets.

Here, we chit chat about our lives, we're all really good friends.

I have to go now to work, so I won't be around till this afternoon. Look forward to your reply, and look forward to you staying around!


5,948 posted on 08/26/2004 7:30:01 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Trust me, they're coming here. At least a fifth of the faculty and a third of the grad students are Indian. Which is good! If they're here, they're not over there working for $2 an hour and undercutting me.


5,949 posted on 08/26/2004 7:30:17 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Professional Engineer; Darksheare; Fedora; SuziQ; All

5,950 posted on 08/26/2004 7:33:01 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (John Kerry LIED and good men DIED for your right to vote against him.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

*nod* Cats tend to not get glaucoma in both eyes (bilaterally) as commonly as dogs do. That's because glaucoma in dogs is most commonly a genetic condition, while in cats it usually develops secondarily from some other condition. Basically, glaucoma is a particular chain of events that occurs, an effect rather than a cause. By definition, glaucoma is an elevated intraocular pressure and the specific changes that occur from such pressure. The pressure in the eye rises because the drainage channel is blocked or constricted by various causes (secondary glaucoma) or the channel may have been too small from the beginning (primary or genetic glaucoma).

It's true that glaucoma is painful and it is actually more painful in animals than in humans, since the pressures involved are usually higher in animals. In people a constant headache or migraines are reported. Unfortunately, animals can't tell us what hurts or how much something hurts. What we can evaluate is decreased activity, less desire to play, irritability, decreased appetite and other factors along the same lines and whether pain medication seems to change any of those. Also, some animals are far more stoic than other about pain and just won't show it no matter what happens. This is a survival trait, although frustrating to those of us trying to help. If your enemy can't tell that you are hurt, then it might go attack seemingly easier prey.

To answer one of your previous questions, yes, the pressure can eventually get so high as to rupture the eye, although that is fairly rare.

Here's a link to an article on glaucoma. It's written for veterinarians so it's a bit ponderous in places but since it's not pre-digested information, it might help you out.

http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00522.htm

I'm always happy to answer questions if I can. :)


5,951 posted on 08/26/2004 7:45:52 AM PDT by Empress (an equal-opprotunity absolute dictator.)
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To: Empress

Hi, Empress! Nice to meet you - always good to meet another fellow homeschooler! ;-)

Hope you stick around...having a vet here (or soon-to-be-vet, anyway...) is very cool!


5,952 posted on 08/26/2004 8:02:33 AM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: Empress
I spent 3 years in Grenada, West Indies after undergrad in Texas and now I'm doing my final year in Ireland. Ireland's great, but I'm looking forward to getting back to the US and getting a job. (*gasp* positive income flow!)

Whoa...you've done a lot of traveling. I spent time in Europe, but never made it to Ireland, and I can't imagine what the West Indies would be like.

You'll have to tell us about it!

I'm very jealous of your being in Ireland. I play a lot of Irish music (traditional dance music, not songs, really), which probably isn't exactly part of everyday life there...but it's still very high on my list of places-I-hope-to-visit-someday-when-I'm-rich...

5,953 posted on 08/26/2004 8:05:49 AM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: Corin Stormhands

LOL!

I love it! Gotta save that...


5,954 posted on 08/26/2004 8:06:24 AM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Awww, your pics make me miss my animals even more. Oh well, in December I'll get to see them all again. A year away from best friends is too long! I've a cat (Quintus Maximus I; old, lazy hyperthyroid) and a horse (Beren; 16h bay Thoroughbred, fat and lazy while I'm gone). Then there's Halley, nominally Talon's dog but really our mother's.


5,955 posted on 08/26/2004 8:12:24 AM PDT by Empress (an equal-opprotunity absolute dictator.)
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To: Empress
Great Scot! Who let her in here?!?

I should warn you sis, keeping up with these people's posts is all but impossible. We are talking hundreds a day. I tend to ninja lurk but it is hard to hang form the ceiling of a hobbit hole because they are so low. Fortunately hobbits are very small.
5,956 posted on 08/26/2004 8:13:00 AM PDT by TalonDJ (ninja lurking on an ent thread would be much harder)
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To: Empress

What kinda dog is Halley?

Interesting names your pets have, BTW...


5,957 posted on 08/26/2004 8:15:42 AM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: TalonDJ

Good morning!

Chatsy we are, yessss...


5,958 posted on 08/26/2004 8:16:46 AM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: RosieCotton

Well our first family dog was Farfel (sp?) (fat lazy beagle). And then the second, my first dog, was Comet (mutt, looked like a Flat Coat Retriever, Faster than anything). And I think I mentioned once my cats named Alpha and Beta. Halley (named for the astronomer/comet) is half shinowzer and half mutt and looks like a small Irish Wolfhound. Emp use to have a mutt named Ginger and that was the most 'normal' pet name we have had.


5,959 posted on 08/26/2004 8:20:14 AM PDT by TalonDJ (how the heck do you spell shinowzer?)
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To: RosieCotton

I've gotten several bouncebacks of mail I supposedly sent to someone I've never heard of! I just delete them.


5,960 posted on 08/26/2004 8:25:14 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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