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Posted on 06/26/2004 8:07:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
Special Wedding Edition: The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
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Both ideas, and every other idea in between that combined them, were covered in my classes. And covered differently by the next teacher. It's great to pull out of a teacher what he/she knows and believes, and hear from lots of those over a lifetime.
You pilled the thread too early honey...
Thanks for the breakfast pics, Ruthy! What's for lunch? :)
Catching up on the thread here--I see y'all have gotten a couple hundred posts ahead of me since last night!
LOL... you and I know blaming is not gonna get anybody educated! I can't see any child of a Hobbit Holer ever missing out on education because we are people who think. We also recognize that different people/kids have different gifts.
Sadly, the very people we are talking about not learning are missing things on many levels. Many of them have many different reasons for not learning. I don't think teachers can take the rap for all... neither can anyone else.
Would it be inappropriate for me to say that a vast laziness and inattention to truly seeing the needs of the kid could be a root issue?
"I need a steamer, and a microwave, and I'll be about set!"
You got a wok? Them's handy if you're trying to eat cheap!
And you certainly shouldn't be reading that Manga and watching that Anime! ;o)
I agree.
I find it most disturbing that teachers are curbed on what they can say in a classroom until a student asks. I would have a hard time with that one. When interviewed here it was one of the things I questioned during my initial interview. I could just see myself being fired the first week for stating an opinion in class!
This may be a law particular to Texas. It pertains to only K-12 public school. I am allowed to share my views in class if topics come up. I don't have to be asked like Myranda had to ask her teachers.
I think that just the normal conversation/interaction between teachers and students is something akin to what you and I experienced with our dads. Some of my teachers thought different from my dad - but they were allowed to discuss it. In doing so, I learned to think because I had two sides of a story. Thinking is a good skill.
Wise man.
Heh, no, manga and anime are evil...
Here's a resource you might find useful:
Glenn Doman, How to Teach Your Baby Math
It looks like Amazon doesn't currently carry this book, but you may be able to find it in a library, and the author also has another book summarizing some of the same information:
How to Multiply Your Baby's Intelligence: More Gentle Revolution
A root issue for what? The trouble with schools? - I don't know. I didn't see that. Even home schooling is self-motivated. The same tools, ie, the book and the homework, were provided both places. The motivation to actually do the work is either there or not there. The actual control over the student is only there at home. The teacher can't withhold meals or paddle the kid any more, or sometimes even get the parent to agree the kid is misbehaving.
Hey all, I don't know how many of you may have already seen this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1167440/posts
This is one of my local Texas freepers and I am sending a card. I thought some of you Hobbit Hole Dwellers might be interested in sending a "further away" card for this vet.
Hope you don't mind me bringing this here.
I'm trying to remember when my parents first started teaching me math and what method they used. I know it was before kindergarten. I also know I got help learning my multiplication tables from these songs they had on Saturday morning cartoons, "Schoolhouse Rock" (which is now available on DVD, for any homeschoolers interested).
That's impossible to regulate... and could be a particular subject that is controversial, they have a policy that is as good as their superintendent. I think it is going to be really local, and age-dependent. Our high school classes were all about debating opposing views where there were any, and memorably among them, crevo theories.
That was one of the most egregious spams I've seen in a long time :)
Going to eat lunch here--will finish catching up after I eat.
If you can find a homeschool association, ask them if folks are interested in co-op classes for high schoolers. That is the time that most families are tempted to send kids back to school because Math and Science are the two subjects by which they are most intimidated. There's also the labs in Science for which most folks don't have equipment or know how to use it, but which are required by most colleges.
I think really, we can't ever be happy. If the teacher has freaky ideas, we want them curbed, if the teacher agrees with us, we want them to be able to say what they want.
I think I really just want them to have common sense.
No, I meant the reason some students aren't learning.
I meant I don't think the blame can be laid at the feet of any one area. Neither schools, home schools or any system.
The laziness I refer to is the general attitude in *some* of all the areas; home, school environments (not just public) and some of the places we send our kids for activities that kids pretty much raise themselves. Granted, all kids oughtta come in contact through their lives with many people inside the home or school and outside those environments who teach them. But, to me, there is a more blase attitude toward interacting with knowledge to kids now than when there was when I grew up.
It may be an unfair assessment on my part, but I see a laziness on the part of people in general just to talk to kids and share knowledge and life experience. Frankly, I am always amazed that kids like me. I think I come across as something of a curmudgeon to them. But, PQ and others have told me that they liked me as kids cause I just talked to 'em and shared stuff I knew with 'em.
Saxon is a reinforcement type program. You learn something new every day, but you practice everything you've learned. Most math texts teach you one new thing per chapter, and then maybe you never see it again.
I want them to have to give their 'batting average' along with the report. "I say it is likely to rain all week, and my current prediction success rate is 50%", Which is different than "There is a 50% chance of rain". What's 50%? - His chance of being right? or the actual chance of rain? Every day since last week, they've been predicting rain "tomorrow". And the next day, it is still gonna rain tomorrow, with no mention of yesterday. It hasn't rained since the wedding.
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