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Posted on 06/26/2004 8:07:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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Jen.... the point is sensitivities.... we try not to tread on yours or anyone else's (except to give Corin a hard time) at least in the HH.
FR is a pretty ugly place for people who actually have family who teach school, as my mom did, and much of ecurbh's family does. People who we actually know are not either incompetent or evil, or the exception to the rule in the areas we come from.
It'd be nice if there could be one place where we didn't have to hear that.
There are good teachers, I know. But they are the exception to the rule in the current system. I don't blame teachers for every problem. (Nope, that's the NEA. And parents, of course).
I'm not a genius, I'm lazy, and I make assumptions sometimes. I should not consistently be head-and-shoulders above my classmates (am hoping it'll be different at a graduate level). The only difference I see between me and the other students in, say, my history class, is that I actually learned history. I'm not putting all the blame on the teachers. But a large portion has to go there.
The government education system is broken. There are good people trying to make it work. I've known some. But what likelihood is there that the teacher Luke would have for algebra is one of them? It's like playing roulette. Not all lawyers are corrupt, either, I've known good lawyers, but that doesn't mean there's something wrong with our tort system and that lawyers, in general, are largely to blame.
And I really don't think saying teachers should know what they're teaching is too much.
Discussion not quite heated enough for ya?
I'm beginning to think it's like with kids. They want attention, and they'll get it by doing something to make us mad, if that's the best way they think they can get it.
It's like a flat cornbread.
Have I mentioned to anyone that I would love to go back to school and get my teaching credentials? :-)
Since I ~have~ to work anyway, at least I'd have the same schedule as my kids!
And I could battle the forces of Mordor from within!
My mom taught where I was in high school. I couldn't get away with ~anything~ :~\
That is, of course, unless God gives me a decent husband and father for my kids first! *grin*
Well now she wouldn't want her daughter to think she wasn't dependent on her. ;o)
Well, I admit to a bias that comes from defensiveness. Certain people, when they found they couldn't hurt my mother with their attacks on her principles, tried starting in on me - this is when I was eight or so - and ever since then my family has in general been very negative toward teachers. A lot of them feel threatened by homeschoolers. It's like your very existance proves they aren't necessary, which is silly because homeschoolers will never even be a majority.
So there are good teachers, but my first exposure to anyone who I knew as a teacher were "those mean ladies who say nasty things about my mother".
See? That would be perfect!
Becky and Alyson could live under my tyranny everywhere they went! ;-)
Figgers the bossy sister would have to weigh in. ;-)
just trying to draw the eye off the ringbearer...
VEY good!
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Exagerated hyperbole is much better than the plain ordinary sort.
And I'm talking about my personal experience, which has been largely negative. If your personal experience is different, well, it's equally valid. You know a lot of good teachers, and I don't deny that, and I've known a lot of really bad ones, and I don't think it goes beyond that.
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Speaking of which...is it lunchtime yet?
Well, thanks for patronizing me.
Football coaches teaching math is a very bad idea.
Why? My Uncle Bob is a math teacher who also coaches football. He loves football, and enjoys working with the players. But he loves teaching math too. When I was going to school, the ones who were there primarily to coach had the jobs teaching P.E. or Driver's Ed, or some such easy class.
There are good teachers, I know. But they are the exception to the rule in the current system.
And here is where we disagree. I think the bad apples giving everyone a bad name are the exception. I have had many teachers in my day, learned from most, was inspired by a few, and only had one or two where I learned nothing.
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