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Liberals and Independents infiltrating FREE REPUBLIC?

Posted on 06/24/2004 2:39:11 PM PDT by TeenageConservative

Is it just me, or are we seeing more and more independents and liberals infiltrating Free Republic?

Last time I checked this was a conservative news forum.

We can't do anything about it, but, it just seems weird to me, but it shouldn't.

Independents are liberals who are too afraid to look like bad guys so they tell everybody that they are Independent.


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1 posted on 06/24/2004 2:39:11 PM PDT by TeenageConservative
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To: TeenageConservative

It's OK so long as they never learn the secret handshake.


2 posted on 06/24/2004 2:41:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (John Kerry - Not the Swiftest Boat in the Delta.)
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To: TeenageConservative

Don't get excited. Every once and a while they show up, but don't hang around very long. they keep the brain cells regenerating.


3 posted on 06/24/2004 2:41:40 PM PDT by marty60
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To: TeenageConservative
Independents are liberals who are ashamed to call themselves demoCrats.

Just thought you ought to know

4 posted on 06/24/2004 2:43:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: TeenageConservative
Independents are liberals who are too afraid to look like bad guys so they tell everybody that they are Independent.

Actually, the word "independent" means "Affiliated with or loyal to no one political party or organization."

There are MANY independents who are conservatives, and they belong here as well as registered Republicans like myself. This is a "conservative news forum", not a "Republican news forum".

Thanks,
-SunStar

5 posted on 06/24/2004 2:54:33 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: SunStar

Sorry, when I said Independent, I should of said moderate. You knew what I meant.

Maybe Free Republic should be changed from "Conservative News Forum," to "Politically Correct Conservative News Forum."


6 posted on 06/24/2004 3:36:03 PM PDT by TeenageConservative
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To: TeenageConservative

You've been registered here all of a month, and you've noticed this big change in posters? I haven't noticed any such thing, but I have noticed an increase in mindless vanity posts by teenagers.


7 posted on 06/24/2004 5:01:06 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: TeenageConservative

Get a new screenname. NO really, cause there is an idiot on another forum who uses "TeenageConservative". Unless that's you. Then you should get a new hobby.

This place has been inundated with people crossposting Fark, Slashdot and Ogrish postings, but what the heck, maybe we should change it to "Conservative Boobies, Geek and Snuff Films Forum", and go for the trifecta.

I keed


8 posted on 06/24/2004 5:08:02 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

What's your guy's problem? This is the second article from me, and both times people have pointed out a flaw that has nothing to do with what I wrote about.

And yes I really am a teen and I run a Teenage Republican chapter in my area. But you guys can push someone to become a Democrat.

Sorry for whatever I did.


9 posted on 06/24/2004 5:23:01 PM PDT by TeenageConservative
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To: TeenageConservative

Not everyone is like that. Give it some time. People will grow to trust you and then they wont treat you like this anymore.


10 posted on 06/24/2004 5:39:04 PM PDT by trussell (If stupidity was actually painful, some people would be on a permanent lidocane drip.)
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To: TeenageConservative
Relax! We treat everybody like this on the forum. You shoulda read some of the fun we had on the Michigan forum last week. If it were possible to throw a chair at a fellow FReeper via computer we would have done so.

As for the recent infiltration of libs, its not recent at all. Some genuinely want to have civil, intelligent dialogue with conservatives. They don't get noticed, by and large. Its the idiot Moby patrol who gets all the glory.

Personally, I wish admin mod would let the really incredibly troublemaking trolls stick around for a few hours before giving them the big zot. Its fun and relaxing to wathc these idiots try to defend their positions. Warms me heart.

11 posted on 06/24/2004 6:25:22 PM PDT by grellis ("I was just wondering, do you filthy Freepers know how well-known and notorious you are?")
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To: TeenageConservative

BTW, there was a teenaged conservative who posted a thread recently, asking FReepers to visit his new website (IIRC, the website is a conservative forum for teens). I suggested that, instead of maintaining his own website, he start posting a regular thread for teen cons here at FR. Why don't you take a crack at it? I'm being quite serious. I post a thread each Friday, just for moms (although we don't give anyone the boot!), called "The Freeper Family Table." Each week we discuss a different topic of interest to conservative moms. Why not do that for teens?


12 posted on 06/24/2004 6:32:19 PM PDT by grellis ("I was just wondering, do you filthy Freepers know how well-known and notorious you are?")
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To: TeenageConservative
Is it just me, or are we seeing more and more independents and liberals infiltrating Free Republic?

No. I'm seeing more and more Conservatives inflitrating freerepublic.

13 posted on 06/24/2004 9:58:48 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: TeenageConservative

I'm kidding, but it's all perspective, I found FR when I was 19, I'm 25 now, the entire time it's gotten more and more civil, and less strident. All great social movements fizzle out, you and I are both too young to have witnessed the beginning of this one (Goldwater presidential run), but we'll be witness to it's apex, or were already, time and historians will tell.

If you want to make a name for yourself, work on writing political commentary and post it to FR, you'll have a great feedback mechanism to enhance your oratory/wiriting skill. Take all fedback with a grain of salt. Good Luck in whatever you go for...


14 posted on 06/24/2004 11:23:23 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: TeenageConservative

I think that it would be nice to have a thread for teenage Freepers. At my public school, I founded the Conservatives Club this year and by the end of the year we had 35 members. However, next year I am going to prep school in New Hampshire, and it is extremely liberal. I already had one of the teachers call my ideas wacko when I was vistiting. However, there are a few good conservative alumni at the school I am going to like Pete Coors, Judd Gregg, and Negroponte. So I think I can survive.


15 posted on 06/25/2004 1:18:35 AM PDT by icebats22
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To: TeenageConservative

There are Independent CONSERVATIVES, ya know. :0) We're the real Republican Party...not the Lefty organization it is today:

Republican Party Platform.



Adopted at St. Louis, June 16, 1896.

The Republicans of the United States, assembled by their representatives in National Convention, appealing for the popular and historical justification of their claims to the matchless achievements of thirty years of Republican rule, earnestly and confidently address themselves to the awakened intelligence, experience, and conscience of their countrymen in the following declaration of facts and principles:

For the first time since the Civil War the American people have witnessed the calamitous consequences of full and unrestricted Democratic control of the Government. It has been a record of unparalleled incapacity, dishonor and disaster. In administrative management it has ruthlessly sacrificed indispensable revenue, entailed an unceasing deficit, eked out ordinary current expenses with borrowed money, piled up the public debt by $262,000,000 in time of peace, forced an adverse balance of trade, kept a perpetual menace hanging over the redemption fund, pawned American credit to alien syndicates, and reversed all the measures and results of successful Republican rule. In the broad effect of its policy it has precipitated panic, blighted industry and trade with prolonged depression, closed factories, reduced work and wages, halted enterprise and crippled American production, while stimulating foreign production for the American market. Every consideration of public safety and individual interest demands that the Government shall be rescued from the hands of those who have shown themselves incapable of conducting it without disaster at home and dishonor abroad, and shall be restored to the party which for thirty years administered it with unequaled success and prosperity. And in this connection we heartily endorse the wisdom, patriotism and the success of the Administration of President Harrison.


Allegiance to Protection Renewed.

We renew and emphasize our allegiance to the policy of Protection as the bulwark of American industrial independence and the foundation of American development and prosperity. This true American policy taxes foreign products and encourages home industry; it puts the burden of revenue on foreign goods; it secures the American market for the American producer; it upholds the American standard of wages for the American workingman; it puts the factory by the side of the farm, and makes the American farmer less dependent on foreign demand and prices; it diffuses general thrift and founds the strength of all on the strength of each. In its reasonable application it is just, far and impartial, equally opposed to foreign control and domestic monopoly, to sectional discrimination and individual favoritism. [Emphasis mine]

We denounce the present Democratic tariff as sectional, injurious to the public credit and destructive to business enterprise. We demand such an equitable tariff on foreign imports which come into competition with American products, as will not only furnish adequate revenue for the necessary expenses of the Government, but will protect American labor from degradation to the wage level of other lands. We are not pledged to any particular schedules. The question of rates is a practical question, to be governed by the conditions of the time and of production; the ruling and uncompromising principle is the protection and development of American labor and industry. The country demands a right settlement, and then it wants rest.


Reciprocity Demanded.

We believe the repeal of the reciprocity arrangements negotiated by the last Republican Administration was a national calamity, and we demand their renewal and extension on such terms as will equalize our trade with other nations, remove the restrictions which now obstruct the sale of American products in the ports of other countries, and secure enlarged markets for the products of our farms, forests and factories. Protection and reciprocity are twin measures of Republican policy and go hand in hand. Democratic rule has recklessly struck down both, and both must be re-established. Protection for what we produce; free admission for the necessaries of life which we do not produce; reciprocal agreements of mutual interest which gain open markets for us in return for our open market to others. Protection builds up domestic industry and trade and secures our own market for ourselves; reciprocity builds up foreign trade and finds an outlet for our surplus. We condemn the present Administration for not keeping faith with the sugar producers of this country; the Republican party favors such protection as will lead to the production on American soil of all the sugar which the American people use and for which they pay other countries more than $100,000,000 annually. To all our products--to those of the mine and the field, as well as those of the shop and the factory--to hemp, to wool, the product of the great industry of sheep husbandry, as well as to the finished woolens of the mill-- we promise the most ample protection. [Emphasis mine]


Merchant Marine.
We favor restoring the early American policy of discriminating duties for the up building of our merchant marine and the protection of our shipping in the foreign carrying trade, so that American ships--the product of American labor, employed in American shipyards, sailing under the Stars and Stripes, and manned, officered and owned by Americans--can regain the carrying of our foreign commerce.


The Currency Plank.

The Republican party is unreservedly for sound money. It caused the enactment of the law providing for the resumption of specie payment in 1879; since then every dollar has been as good as gold. [Emphasis mine]


We are unalterably opposed to every measure calculated to debase our currency or impair the credit of our country. We are, therefore, opposed to the free coinage of silver, except by international agreement with the leading commercial nations of the world, which we pledge ourselves to promote; and, until such agreement can be obtained, the existing gold standard must be preserved. All our silver and paper currency must be maintained at parity with gold, and we favor all measures designed to maintain inviolable the obligations of the United States and all our money, whether coin or paper, at the present standard, the standard of the most enlightened nations of the earth. [Emphasis mine]


[The republican party used to be for sound money, but not anymore. Used to be a money supply backed by specie. Now its run by a private for profit bank (FEDERAL RESERVE. Which is no more federal then federal express) and the "money" is backed by an ever increasing debt]



Justice to Veterans.

The veterans of the Union armies deserve and should receive fair treatment and generous recognition. Whenever practicable, they should be given the preference in the matter of employment, and they are entitled to the enactment of such laws as are best calculated to secure the fulfillment of the pledges made to them in the dark days of the country's peril. We denounce the practice in the Pension Bureau, so recklessly and unjustly carried on by the present administration, of reducing pensions and arbitrarily dropping names from the rolls, as deserving the severest condemnation of the American people. [Emphasis mine]


Foreign Relations.

Our foreign policy should be at all times firm, vigorous and dignified, and all our interests in the Western hemisphere carefully watched and guarded. The Hawaiian Islands should be controlled by the United States, and no foreign Power should be permitted to interfere with them; the Nicaragua Canal should be built, owned, and operated by the United States, and, by the purchase of the Danish Islands, we should secure a property and much-needed naval station in the West Indies. [Emphasis mine]


The massacres in Armenia have aroused the deep sympathy and just indignation of the American people, and we believe that the United States should exercise all the influence it can properly exert to bring these atrocities to an end. In Turkey, American residents have been exposed to the gravest dangers, and American property destroyed. There, and everywhere, American citizens and American property must be absolutely protected at all hazards and at any cost.

We reassert the Monroe Doctrine in its full extent, and we reaffirm the right of the United States to give the doctrine effect by responding to the appeals of any American State for friendly intervention in case of European encroachment. We have not interfered, and shall not interfere , with the existing possessions of any European Power in this hemisphere, but those possessions must not, on any pretext, be extended. We hopefully look forward to the eventual withdrawal of the European Powers from this hemisphere, and to the ultimate union of all the English-speaking part of the continent by the free consent of its inhabitants.


Suffering Cuba.

From the hour of achieving their own independence, the people of the United States have regarded with sympathy the struggles of other American peoples to free themselves from European domination. We watch with deep and abiding interest the heroic battle of the Cuban patriots against cruelty and oppression, and our best hopes go out for the full success of their determined contest for liberty. The Government of Spain, having lost control of Cuba, and being unable to protect the property or lives of resident American citizens, or to comply with its treaty obligations, we believe that the Government of the United States should actively use its influence and good offices to restore peace and give independence to the island.



The Navy.

The peace and security of the Republic , and the maintenance of its rightful influence among the nations of the earth, demand a naval power commensurate with its position and responsibility. We therefore favor the continued enlargement of the navy and a complete system of harbor and seacoast defenses. [Emphasis mine]


[How many republicans do you hear on TV, radio, etc state "our democracy" all the time. Go to Article 4, section 4 of the Constitution for the United States and see what it says]


Foreign Immigration.

For the protection of the equality of our American citizenship and of the wages of our workingmen against the fatal competition of low-priced labor , we demand that the immigration laws be thoroughly enforced and so extended as to exclude from entrance to the United States those who can neither read nor write. [Emphasis mine]


Civil Service.

The Civil Service law was placed on the statute book by the Republican party, which has always sustained it, and we renew our repeated declarations that it shall be thoroughly and honestly enforced and extended wherever practicable.



Free Ballot.

We demand that every citizen of the United States shall be allowed to cast one free and unrestricted ballot, and that such ballot shall be counted and returned as cast.

Lynchings.

We proclaim our unqualified condemnation of the uncivilized and barbarous practices well known as lynching and killing of human beings, suspected or charged with crime, without process of law . [Emphasis mine]


National Arbitration.
We favor the creation of a National Board of Arbitration to settle and adjust differences which may arise between employers and employed engaged in inter-State commerce.

Homesteads.
We believe in an immediate return to the free homestead policy of the Republican party, and urge the passage by Congress of the satisfactory free homestead measure which has already passed the House and is now pending in the Senate.

Territories.
We favor the admission of the remaining Territories at the earliest practicable date, having due regard to the interests of the people of the Territories and of the United States. All the Federal officers appointed for the Territories should be selected from bona fide residents thereof, and the right of self-government should be accorded as far as practicable. We believe the citizens of Alaska should have representation in the Congress of the United States, to the end that needful legislation may be intelligently enacted.

Temperance and the Rights of Women.
We sympathize with all wise and legitimate efforts to lessen and prevent the evils of intemperance and promote morality.


The Republican party is mindful of the rights and interests of women. Protection of American industries includes equal opportunities, equal pay for equal work, and protection to the home. We favor the admission of women to wider spheres of usefulness, and welcome their co-operation in rescuing the country from Democratic and Populistic mismanagement and misrule.

Such are the principles and policies of the Republican party. By these principles we will abide, and these policies we will put into execution. We ask for them the considerate judgment of the American people. Confident alike in the history of our great party and in the justice of our cause, we present our platform and our candidates in the full assurance that the election will bring victory to the Republican party and prosperity to the people of the United States


16 posted on 06/25/2004 8:48:55 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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