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"Whoever believes that Christ rose from the dead, and confesses that He is Lord, will be saved." - The Bible
1 posted on
02/10/2004 7:02:29 AM PST by
evets
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Oh, this thread is going to be interesting.
2 posted on
02/10/2004 7:05:54 AM PST by
Petronski
(John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
To: evets
LOL...PMS just cant stand it!!!
3 posted on
02/10/2004 7:05:55 AM PST by
VaBthang4
(-He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps-)
To: evets
Well, I guess there is not gonna be another Lethal Weapon sequel now.
4 posted on
02/10/2004 7:06:11 AM PST by
expatguy
To: evets
It is obvious that Gibson has no understanding of Hebrew, Greek or the Bible.
Likely he would be shocked - shocked! if he understood the Bible as it was written, never mind the 'Catholic' version. (BTW I grew up Catholic and remain a christian)
5 posted on
02/10/2004 7:06:39 AM PST by
txzman
(Jer 23:29)
To: evets
Well, Mel is Catholic - this whole "Non-Catholics go to hell" thing is Catholic dogma, and one of the reasons Luther broke away. What is interesting is that Mel's father is a very angry Catholic, and has broken from the pope (from what I understand) - so an even better question is "Is your father going to go to hell because he has renounced the pope?" That is my opinion anyway.
6 posted on
02/10/2004 7:07:21 AM PST by
NotQuiteCricket
(~twisted minds vant to know.)
To: evets
Bad joke or irrevocable implosion???
8 posted on
02/10/2004 7:07:55 AM PST by
evolved_rage
(All your base are belong to us.)
To: evets
9 posted on
02/10/2004 7:08:41 AM PST by
chance33_98
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To: evets
This is my problem with Catholicism in a nutshell. Too many people listening to what a man says rather than what the Bible says. That'll get you into a world of trouble every time.
Sorry, Mel, I think you're a great guy, but you are DEAD wrong about this one.
10 posted on
02/10/2004 7:09:08 AM PST by
Future Snake Eater
("Oh boy, I can't wait to eat that monkey!"--Abe Simpson)
To: evets
What did MSNBC think he believed? Hahahahah! So Mel thinks I am going to hell? I am supposed to be bothered by this? I love the guy! Good for him. Fortunately for me, he is not the guy deciding who goes to hell and who does not. But I do not take offense to that at all. Of course he thinks that. He is not calling me a bad person. We are all sinners. His point is about the process of redemption, that is, how mankind actually receives salvation. On all the important things we agree -- God, sin, Christ, etc... Whether he thinks I have to be a Caltholic or not is no big deal.
But nice try at dividing to conquer, MSNBC. Won't work.
11 posted on
02/10/2004 7:09:30 AM PST by
King Black Robe
(With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
To: evets
Let him believe what he wants. I honestly don't care. There are a lot of Protestants who believe he's not going, either. My salvation does not depend on the opinion of Mel Gibson, my salvation depends on the grace of God and on that I'll stand firm.
This is just a media attempt to hurt the film and I ask everyone to avert their eyes from this sorry scene.
12 posted on
02/10/2004 7:09:42 AM PST by
Keyes2000mt
(Wearing the Kilt with Pride)
To: evets
Mel Gibson says non-Catholics can go to hellPlease do not alter titles.
To: evets
rut row
To: evets
While I don't agree with him on this doctrinal point, God has always used imperfect people to accomplish things here on Earth. That is one of the things that keeps me going, knowing God is greater than my failings. Mel has done a great work for the Lord with this film. I think this film will reach more non-believers than the Jesus film has.
21 posted on
02/10/2004 7:14:24 AM PST by
ibheath
(Born-again and grateful to God for it.)
To: evets
Does it matter what Mel believes? It is for each to look to his own soul. This statement by Mel just shows me that he is not lost, just confused and lacks Bible Doctrine. Has nothing to do with his salvation, that is, that he believes I am lost.
23 posted on
02/10/2004 7:14:42 AM PST by
fish hawk
("I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more")
To: evets
It's open season on religious beleifs but if you have none or believe in the secular sacraments of homosexuality and political correctness it's hateful to disagree.
To: evets
I'm not Catholic, but I thought the current Catholic view of "the Church" had been broadened to include most Christian denominations -- at least those that trace their genealogy back to the Roman Catholic church at some point in time. Maybe they even include the Eastern Orthodox churches now, I don't know. I say that because I'm sure I read that the Catholic Church now recognizes baptisms done by many other Christian denominations as being valid.
To: evets
Was Jesus a Catholic? ut oh.
29 posted on
02/10/2004 7:18:44 AM PST by
CJ Wolf
To: evets
Mel is a wonderful and rightly blessed man, but not a theologian. This is not what the Scripture says, OR the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
33 posted on
02/10/2004 7:20:20 AM PST by
Capriole
(Foi vainquera)
To: evets
As a former Roman Catholic, now disciple of Jesus, I understand where Mel is coming from but don't agree with him.
His belief or the RC church's dogma does not rescind Jesus's payment for my (or anyone else's) sin.
From my perspective, I liken the RC's strictness to the issues that Paul had with churches that struggled with a serious problem: Whether or not it was OK to eat meat that had been sacrificed to idols. Paul's answer: it's OK to eat the meat because it has no power over you but the real issue was whether or not the eating of the meat would violate the other believer's conscience and cause them to stumble. He said not to use your freedom as a pretext to stumble another believer.
In the same way, I will not pick a fight with RC's on this issue because it doesn't harm my salvation in any way.
So, I'll ignore Mel's pronouncements, concentrate on the positive of the "Passion" and look for things in common with the RC's instead of the differences.
35 posted on
02/10/2004 7:21:25 AM PST by
Bosco
(Remember how you felt on September 11?)
To: evets
Mabelkitty reads paragraph, reads first post, rolls eyes, turns around and walks out.
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