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To: evets
Well, Mel is Catholic - this whole "Non-Catholics go to hell" thing is Catholic dogma, and one of the reasons Luther broke away. What is interesting is that Mel's father is a very angry Catholic, and has broken from the pope (from what I understand) - so an even better question is "Is your father going to go to hell because he has renounced the pope?" That is my opinion anyway.
6 posted on 02/10/2004 7:07:21 AM PST by NotQuiteCricket (~twisted minds vant to know.)
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To: NotQuiteCricket
I am a lifelong Catholic and spent 9 years in Catholic school, and I was never taught that you must be Catholic to be saved. Never.
15 posted on 02/10/2004 7:10:49 AM PST by EllaMinnow (If you want to send a message, call Western Union.)
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To: NotQuiteCricket; xzins; RnMomof7; Gal.5:1; Commander8; editor-surveyor; Alamo-Girl; ...
your# 6....

Mel Gibson says his wife could be going to hell

Well, Mel is Catholic - this whole "Non-Catholics go to hell" thing is Catholic dogma, and one of the reasons Luther broke away.........

His movie,...

"The Passion",...is meant to be a video Roman Catholic 'Crucifix' rather than an empty 'cross'.

IMO

(Galations 1:7,8)

I do/will NOT see/support this movie.

73 posted on 02/10/2004 7:32:55 AM PST by maestro
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To: NotQuiteCricket; xzins; RnMomof7; Gal.5:1; Commander8; editor-surveyor; Alamo-Girl; ...
your# 6....

Mel Gibson says his wife could be going to hell

Well, Mel is Catholic - this whole "Non-Catholics go to hell" thing is Catholic dogma, and one of the reasons Luther broke away.........

His movie,...

"The Passion",...is meant to be a video Roman Catholic 'Crucifix' rather than an empty 'cross'.

IMO

(Galations 1:7,8)

I do/will NOT see/support this movie.

74 posted on 02/10/2004 7:32:55 AM PST by maestro
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To: NotQuiteCricket
one of the reasons Luther broke away

Luther did not break away - the Catholic Church threw him out.

84 posted on 02/10/2004 7:34:13 AM PST by Core_Conservative (ODC-GIRL - the love of my life! - supporting Homeland Defense!)
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To: NotQuiteCricket
Actually, it is *NOT* Catholic dogma. We've done this on other threads. Vatican 2 explicitly states that Protestants may go to Heaven; that their religious practice is no guarantor of their salvation, but that those who simply have not had the opportunity to believe in the Catholic Church may find salvation through extraordinary grace.

Many traditionalist Catholics have pointed out an apparent conflict with older church teachings. (The implication is that Vatican 2 must not be valid, since infallible doctrines cannot conflict with each other.) But they are not contradictory: When the Council of Trent stated that Protestants go to Hell, a Protestant was understood to be an apostate; one who was brought up in the Catholic Church, supposedly understanding what it meant to be a Catholic, and willfully rejected the faith of his fathers to join a religion which was engaged in actual, hot war with the Catholic church. Today, a "Protestant" may be simply one who has not been evangelized to Catholicism, or whose ability to receive evangelism may be obstructed by false teachings, etc. Such people may be saved if their heart is truly focussed on obeying Christ, and seeking him.
111 posted on 02/10/2004 7:40:57 AM PST by dangus
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To: NotQuiteCricket
The Catholic Church does not teach that all non-Catholics are going to hell. The Catholic Church teaches that all who are saved, are saved, in some way, by Jesus Christ, through the instrumentality of the Catholic Church.

If Gibson believes what the article says he believes, he is a Feeneyite, i.e., a heretic. But why should anyone trust a journalist?

140 posted on 02/10/2004 7:51:47 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: NotQuiteCricket
I am sorry, but you are wrong. That statement has not been Dogma for years. Just read Pope John Paul II's Book "Crossing the Threshold of Hope" and you will see that your statement is born out of ignorance and prejudice.

The Catholic Church does, in fact, teach that other Christian have access to the Truth and that there can be salvation outside the Catholic Church. The Church, however, believes that the Catholic Tradition has a "Fullness of Truth" that is not present outside of the Catholic Church. That is not the same as the "no salvation outside the Church" statement.

Mel is from a more conservative sect of the Catholic Church

I hope that this clear up the matter for you.

190 posted on 02/10/2004 8:13:36 AM PST by CWW (The Passion -- See it, then live it!)
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To: NotQuiteCricket
this whole "Non-Catholics go to hell" thing is Catholic dogma, and one of the reasons Luther broke away.

This statement makes zero sense. If all Christians are saved, why start another church? Why not stay in the original Church founded by Christ and try to improve it?

224 posted on 02/10/2004 8:26:27 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: NotQuiteCricket

The idea that only Catholics go to heaven IS NOT Catholic Dogma and never has been. This is NOT why Luther broke away. Before Luther the only Church was the Catholic Church. The break was political. Catholic Doctrine has always followed scripture in believing that all who believe in the Death and Resurrection of Jesus have salvation.


461 posted on 09/17/2004 3:15:35 PM PDT by lifeinhim13
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