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The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

Posted on 01/31/2004 9:52:08 AM PST by ecurbh

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.


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To: RosieCotton
Hmmm... then I guess I'll just have to be Eowyn. Hey, if you're Rosie...

Bless me, sister, for I have sinned (going to get zotted for that one, probably)... I had never actually seen the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins...

Um, it was bad, but funny. Not as good as "Where there's a whip".
12,581 posted on 03/06/2004 6:20:35 PM PST by JenB
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To: Fedora
Heh...just a reoccuring discussion. Every so often we all discuss what we think lembas is really like. There are few agreements. We kinda thought about having a lembas bake-off at Entmoot, but it didn't happen.

So...what do YOU think lembas is like?
12,582 posted on 03/06/2004 6:20:44 PM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: JenB
You went over to that thread?

It's horribly catchy.

I just listened to "Where there's a whip" to purge my mind of the BOBB. ;-)
12,583 posted on 03/06/2004 6:21:54 PM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton; SuziQ
First night at Entmoot, Soupy showed a little LotR cartoon - I think it was South Park-style animation, but it had part of the "Bilbo Baggins" thing. Remember that?

I'm just wondering where she found that... Suzi, do you know? There's someone I'd like to show it to.
12,584 posted on 03/06/2004 6:22:00 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
It is a difficult movie to write about. I suppose I agree with the Pope: "It is as it was." The sense of realism and accuracy are startling. As for the art of it, many features and vignets stand out: I knew Satan before any words even came out of his mouth. From the moment he appeared I knew immediately that was him. So obviously, that was a perfect representation.

Another was the infamous scourging. As awful as it was, it was necessary to show in the way it was -- it's the only representation of his suffering on screen that even approaches the fact, and it more than approaches it, it captures it quite effectively. My gut wrenched when the Roman used the bone scourge and yanked it from his side. There was a physical sensation just watching it.

The flashbacks get a lot of attention because they are so important in giving the viewer both context and a physical break for a few seconds from what Christ is experiencing, portrayed so realistically in front of your eyes. The only obvious tear-jerker was with the child Jesus falling juxtaposed with him falling while carrying the cross. I thought that was tad over the top -- but those breaks in the action were absolutely necessary to the viewers ability to get a brief respite from what they were seeing.

The portrayals of the major points of decision are perfect: Jesus facing Satan in the garden; Jesus condemning himself before the Pharisees (the most critical point of all -- and done beautifully); and strangely enough Pilate's point of decision where he, seemingly against his will, succumbed to the world system -- politics -- and did what he was pre-ordained to do; Peter's denials; and Judas' making his decision for 30 pieces of silver and then attempting to backtrack later when his great and unforgivable sin became apparent to him (that was especially good as well -- particularly the aspect of him being turned over to Satan, for he KNEW Christ and yet betrayed him for money). Those decision points were fantastic -- set up and delivered perfectly.

The pathos of how no one really wanted to get involved yet when they did against their own will -- like the man who was forced to help Jesus carry the cross -- they were profoundly affected, changed, by the experience. I can never think anything but admiringly about Mel Gibson after seeing this. Both his art and his soul are of the highest calibre.

12,585 posted on 03/06/2004 6:22:03 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: JenB
I never saw it...everyone was crowded around the computer and I couldn't see.
12,586 posted on 03/06/2004 6:22:37 PM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton
Yeah, and thought, what the heck, I've put this off for far too long.

Personally, "Frodo of the NIIiiine Fingers" is worse.
12,587 posted on 03/06/2004 6:22:37 PM PST by JenB
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To: RMDupree
We'll catch him when I get back!

Well, hurry, lassie! Ahm gettin' hungrah! If ah don't catch the baby soon ahm gonna have to go out to eat at Chili's instead. But that won't be as good as fresh, homemade baby!

12,588 posted on 03/06/2004 6:23:28 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Wow, you're a lot more coherent than I was... I pride myself on being a good reviewer, and I just can't seem to get to a point where I can actually talk about "The Passion". Let's just say I agree with you. It was horrific, and beautiful, and shameful and glorious.
12,589 posted on 03/06/2004 6:24:42 PM PST by JenB
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To: Professional Engineer; RosieCotton; Scott from the Left Coast; msdrby

12,590 posted on 03/06/2004 6:28:18 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: RosieCotton; JenB
But then if we wanna get technical, Faramir is taken, too.

Waitaminute, how did you end up gettting Sam and Faramir?--did Rosie Cotton disguise herself as Dernhelm and follow the Fellowship down to Gondor or something? :)

12,591 posted on 03/06/2004 6:28:49 PM PST by Fedora
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To: JenB
I had never actually seen the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins...

In the Middle of the Earth, in the land of the Shire

lives a brave little hobbit whom we all admire. . .

Um, it was bad, but funny. Not as good as "Where there's a whip".

Probably better than "Frodo of the Nine Fingers", though :)

12,592 posted on 03/06/2004 6:31:10 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Scott from the Left Coast; All
Evening all!

Ecurbh and I are home from the beach. We waved at ya from the bridge....
12,593 posted on 03/06/2004 6:32:16 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
Oooh, what brand of spider that be?
12,594 posted on 03/06/2004 6:32:38 PM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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To: Fedora
I meant taken by Eowyn. ;-)

And Jen, too, apparently...
12,595 posted on 03/06/2004 6:32:44 PM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton
So...what do YOU think lembas is like?

I always thought it looked like the leaves they show it wrapped in in the Peter Jackson version, only smaller and without the stuff inside, you just eat the leaves. And it tastes like Triscuits only less salty and more crumbly.

12,596 posted on 03/06/2004 6:34:06 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora; RosieCotton
It's like a flat cornbread.
12,597 posted on 03/06/2004 6:36:09 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ah...that must have been the good vibes I noticed!
12,598 posted on 03/06/2004 6:36:10 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: msdrby
Dunno, but it was seriesly hugh! Took that pic in Fiji, and as I am arachnaphobic, it was a rather difficult picture to take. Luckily, since it was so big, I didn't have to get very close for it to show up well.
12,599 posted on 03/06/2004 6:36:36 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Yep.... that was us on the good vibes. Made lots of wedding plans today.... sortof.... least we talked about it!
12,600 posted on 03/06/2004 6:38:15 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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