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Is anyone watching Battlestar Galactica? (Hinting of 9-11??)Mega Vanity -sorry
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| RandallFlagg
Posted on 12/08/2003 7:13:14 PM PST by RandallFlagg
The first 2 segments are just SCREAMING at hints towards 911. I highly suggest folks watch it.
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KEYWORDS: battlestar; battlestargalactica; galactica
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To: BenLurkin
You're welcome.
To: Woahhs
Well, dang! I never watched that show. I was always at work at the time it was on.
What I was saying is that I seem to remember an old documentary on the original BG where someone said, "Starbuck's the 'Han Solo' of the show. Swashbuckling, good looking and kind of a rebel."
Heh! That word cracks me up. "Swashbuckling."
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posted on
12/09/2003 2:32:10 PM PST
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
To: Woahhs
"No one is saying PC is good, but you are justifying an opinion based on secondary information that doesn't quite square with the primary source for those who actually watched the thing.Well now you have just managed to confuse the heck out of me, not that it takes much. My opinions are based on a pretty good source, the main outlet for Moore and Co. And since neither you nor I are capable of going back to Pre-Battlestar release days, what Moore says now is irrelevent, so we must rely on second hand knowledge as most of us do day to day.
People who watch the program for the first time have no Idea if it's PC or not. While some of the scenes may hint at it, I understand nothing is blatant PC, but I am not talking about watching, I am talking about knowing that Moore thinks the original series was sexist and then changing some of the main characters genders to fit that ideal.
I still say it's like the Libs tried to do to the original 9/11 flag raising men. You can't change facts, and fact is Starbuck was a Man not a Woman. If he wanted to do a good epic then he should have made this version a future to the original version. Not try to convince us that Starbuck somehow changed into a Woman overnight.
To: RandallFlagg
Personally, I always prefered the past tense "buckle swasher" for common parlance.
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posted on
12/09/2003 2:36:36 PM PST
by
Woahhs
To: Paul C. Jesup
Yeah right, and they will be making a movie based on Space: Above and Beyond.
Excuse me if I sound a little cynical.
I am tried of follow up mini series that are suppose to solve everything, like with the Pretender.
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posted on
12/09/2003 2:44:28 PM PST
by
dts32041
(Democrats party of slave holders. More Demo rat presidents owned slaves than any other party.)
Question for all who have seen the original airings of BG:
The one with Count Iblis...."The War of the Gods"
When I watched the scene in part 2, Starbuck, Apollo and Athena walked into the wrecked husk if the ship that Iblis claimed he crashed in. As soon as he walked into the hatch, MY TV WENT FUZZY AND THERE WAS NOTHING BUT AUDIO!
Upon later reading (YEARS later), I learned that that scene was edited out due to the findings of cloven hooves on the other crewmembers. The implication was that the producers didn't want to mesh anything "Satanic" with the series.
Now, my question: Did it show that scene where you watched it?
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posted on
12/09/2003 2:44:57 PM PST
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
To: JustAnAmerican
What I'm trying to tell you is the writer made a creative decision, regardless of the stated reason, and it worked. If SciFi is about anything, it's about suspension of disbelief. You are refusing to suspend disbelief on the weight of pre-pub prattle rather than any failure of the writing or acting.
Hell. Who doesn't know Kira Nerys from DS9 was a literary male? It didn't detract from the entertainment value of the series though.
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posted on
12/09/2003 2:48:25 PM PST
by
Woahhs
To: dts32041
Yeah right, and they will be making a movie based on Space: Above and Beyond.Now THAT was a series about a bunch of female warriors! Bleck!
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posted on
12/09/2003 2:50:39 PM PST
by
Woahhs
To: RandallFlagg
No. They went inside and we were never showed the interior. And I watched that show regularly in its first season.
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:04:53 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is Slavery)
To: proust
The mythos of the original B.G. may have had the same Old Testament Biblical roots as Mormonism, but IMO, B.G. was never intended to be a Mormon message.
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:09:00 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is Slavery)
HERE it is: From BattlestarGalactica.com--
E16. What was inside the wrecked ship in "War of the Gods"
According to the original script and the novelization, the wreckage belonged to Count Iblis' comrades. Here is the scene in the script, as Apollo and Starbuck enter the wreckage.
Apollo: Everything is pretty well vaporized. Whatever hit this thing must have had the power of a sun.
Apollo stops dead in his tracks, looks down. He seems to shutter.
Apollo: Starbuck!
Starbuck looks over and sees the sober look on Apollo's face. He moves over and looks down as Apollo begins to put on some tight fitting gloves. A piece of metallic surface, highly scorched but out of which protrudes a foot-like extremity, except that it's tip is clearly in the shape of a cloven hoof. Apollo and Starbuck exchange heavy looks. Apollo bends down and tries to life the metal. As they lift it off, tossing it aside, they grimace in horror. Under the wreckage is the figure of a devil, a demon.
The networks decided to drop the scene with the cloven hoof for two reasons. The scene might be scary to younger audiences, and there were religious implications behind the scene (i.e. "satanic".) For audience members, the absence of the scene wrongly suggested that the warriors had peered inside the wreckage of Commander Cain's Battlestar Pegasus. As Count Iblis told Sheba, "Your father, you will see him again."
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:09:05 PM PST
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
To: BenLurkin
But did it "blank out" the screen and broadcast only the audio when you saw it being aired for the first time where you were at?
I remember that making me (and my Dad) so mad. We were like, "Well?! What the heck was in that ship?!?!!!"
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:11:24 PM PST
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
To: mikegi
The one you are thinking of was called
"Special Bulletin" and aired in 1983. The video sells on Amazon.com.
It was an accurate portrayal of two things 1) the effects of a small nuclear blast at different distances and 2) the inflated sense of self importance in the media as it covers news events.
This video is recommended by BenLurkin to everyone who doesn't want to be surprised by the real thing when it comes.
"Countdown to looking Glass" was a different made for TV movie. It portrayed the lead-up top a full scale nuclear war. It included a chilling scene where the U.S. fleet off the Persian Gulf is attacked with nuclear torpedoes from a Russian sub.
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:19:53 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is Slavery)
To: Lee'sGhost
I agree, if people want to get picky about it being P.C, you could say the same thing about the old series as well.
Athena and Sheba were both viper pilots in the original.
I'm sure some thought that was "racey" back in the day.
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:25:18 PM PST
by
Gottwnz
To: RandallFlagg
Not that I recall. My recollection is that the cast was allowed "reaction" shots only and that otherwise the editing was an ordinary (if somewhat abrupt) cut.
Bear in mind that this was 25 years, four jobs, six funerals, two marriages, graduate school, and several children ago.
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:28:02 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is Slavery)
To: clamper1797
Looks like the new lady president is Janeway the second ... this show will be short lived She's one commander-in-chief who deserves to be fragged
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:32:31 PM PST
by
SauronOfMordor
(Happiness is a belt-fed weapon)
To: RandallFlagg
We haven't seen episode 2 yet, but we really liked episode 1. It makes Star Trek: Enterprise look so lame.
My husband was commenting about all the good messages in the show.
We loved it and can't wait to watch the second part tonight.
To: ProudGOP
You should watch it. You missed the best parts. It's much better than the original, and there really isn't much PC crap in it. The Starbuck thing is the only kind of stupid thing, and we'll see how it turns out.
To: delapaz
I like the music. I like all the drumming. It gets me on edge. The special effects are cool, also.
To: luckystarmom
It's all I've been thinking about since I woke up. I haven't anticipated anything like this since we took back the Senate. I know. My 2 vices: Politics and Sci Fi. I'm a DORK!
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posted on
12/09/2003 3:41:37 PM PST
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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