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Is anyone watching Battlestar Galactica? (Hinting of 9-11??)Mega Vanity -sorry
Today | RandallFlagg

Posted on 12/08/2003 7:13:14 PM PST by RandallFlagg

The first 2 segments are just SCREAMING at hints towards 911. I highly suggest folks watch it.


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KEYWORDS: battlestar; battlestargalactica; galactica
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To: Ciexyz
I can't believe that you are saying this, in the first one they did not have explicit sex, and this Starbuck is ridulous, Boomer is a farce, and Apollo is a neorotic kid, they could have a least some of the original players as what they were.
161 posted on 12/08/2003 9:31:34 PM PST by pattycake
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To: pcx99
This show reminds me of "V", the TV series from approx. 1984, where Earth fights the aliens who take on human appearance.
162 posted on 12/08/2003 9:32:23 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: RandallFlagg
I watched it. It is actually a good bit better than I thought it would be. They took some well-advised artistic license and dumped a lot of the grotesque cheese that defined the original series. It is more like a "parallel universe" remake. As it was, I had no particular desire for them to be faithful to the original just because it is a remake, particularly considering how marginal the original was. Die hard enthusiasts of the original will probably not be pleased with the new one, but I prefer it this way.

All things considered, they did a pretty good job. My bar was set low, but I was pleasantly surprised.

163 posted on 12/08/2003 9:36:00 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: RandallFlagg
I am watching this thing and it moves too slow, the special effects are terrible and the acting horrible. A few months ago Edward James Olmos said not to bother watching and now I know why he said it.

Now if I am going to watch cheesy special effects but great writing and acting then lets be watching DR. WHO.
164 posted on 12/08/2003 9:36:46 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Ciexyz
The Cylons are super scary this time around.

The thing that I don't get is why they had to make the Cylons less scary by saying that man had created them. Where the hell did that come from?

The Cylons originally were the robotic servants of a reptilian race called....the Cylons. But the robotic servants defeated their former masters in a great civil uprising. From then on out robotic Cylon life was to spread. The Cylon's soul purpose is to colonize and control the entire universe; eradicating any other life forms that get in their path. Man seems to be the sole lifeform that has been able to resist the Cylons thus far.

This angle would have been much spookier and would have allowed for a greater wealth of material if this mini series turned into a regular series.

The only thing I can think of is that doing it this way allows for a built in, pat way to defeat the Cylons. If man created them then man can think of a way to defeat them....and wrap it all up in 2 two hour episodes.

165 posted on 12/08/2003 9:37:06 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I have opinions of my own - strong opinions - but I don't always agree with them.)
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To: The Electrician; mikegi
FYI, that movie was titled "Special Bulletin".
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0086350/

They should have just blown up the nuke on the tugboat.
166 posted on 12/08/2003 9:45:38 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: pcx99; RandallFlagg; Arkinsaw
The old cylons were in a black and white world -- the US vs the evil empire. You could spot them a mile away.

Actually, the original Battlestar was a retelling of Mormonism:

Battlestar Galactica (1978)

Battlestar Galactica is the story of the Mormons retold with the visual vocabulary of Star Wars, plus a few ideas from TV westerns and tabloid archeology. The moral of the pilot movie and most episodes is "Don't trust outsiders; Kill them before they get the chance to kill you."

The overwhelming financial success of Star Wars gave creator/producer Glen Larson the hard numbers he needed to finally convince television networks that science fiction could be profitable.

Larson is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints (the Mormons), founded by Joseph Smith (1805-1844). In 1823, while Smith was still a teenager, the angel Moroni appeared and revealed the location of several gold Nephi Plates. The plates had been buried by Moroni in 421 CE, when he was still a mortal. They were written mostly by Moroni and his father, the prophet Mormon, in the Nephi language. Smith translated the plates into English by divine guidance. He then returned the plates to Moroni, who brought them back to Heaven. Smith's translation is today called The Book of Mormon; Another Testament of Jesus Christ. The Book of Mormon recounts the early history of the world from 600 BCE to 420 CE. The Mormons believe in four canonical scriptures: The Bible, The Book of Mormon, Doctrines and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price; these are the sources for the basic plot and all the religious themes in Battlestar Galactica:

Galactica
Mormon Scriptures
Battlestar Galactica Noah's Ark (Larson recycled ideas for Galactica from an earlier pitch, "Adam's Ark")
The Twelve Colonies (and the lost thirteenth colony) of Colonists The Twelve Tribes (and the lost thirteenth tribe) of Jews
The Cylons, who pursue the fleeing Colonists The Egyptians, who pursue the fleeing Jews
Colonies are ruled by the "Council of Twelve" Mormons are ruled by the "Council of Twelve"
Home planet of mankind is called "Kobol" Home planet of mankind is called "Kolob"
Count Iblis Satan ("Iblis" is the Islamic name for Satan)
Seraphs (the beings who pilot the mysterious ships of light) Seraphim (the highest rank of angels)
Adama Adam (the first man according to the Old Testament, whom Mormons arguably believe is God)
Apollo opens a path in the Cylon mine field so the Colonists can escape the Cylons Moses parts the Red Sea so the Jews can escape the Egyptians
Adama wears a silver medallion of office around his neck Joseph Smith wore a silver medallion of office around his neck (a Hebrew puzzlebox called the "Jupiter Talisman")


http://www.jitterbug.com/origins/general.html
167 posted on 12/08/2003 9:46:32 PM PST by proust (Be alert -- some terrorists look normal)
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To: Buggman
The same reason John Crichton didn't nail Aeryn Sun in the first ep--she would've kicked his ass.

Actually if you remember the first episode of Farscape, Aeryn DID kick John's ass.

168 posted on 12/08/2003 9:54:33 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: yarddog
Starbuck is woman? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
169 posted on 12/08/2003 9:55:35 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: The Electrician
I've seen lots of footage of the 50's A-bomb and H-bomb tests, which are awesome, and even beautiful, but not gut-wrenching, whereas the nuke scenes here are truly visceral...

I'll second that. Very eerie how plausible it looked.

Technical notes that pleasantly surprised me for a space opera:
1.) Maneuvering in space is done by blatant and realistic thrust vectoring. No Star Wars spaceship syndrome here.
2.) Guided missiles hardly ever miss and missile intercept is the best defense. Like with modern AIM missiles, the probability of kill is in the 80+% range. It annoys me when I watch shows that use 1950s era Soviet missile guidance systems a hundred years in the future. Puh-lease.

Heh.

170 posted on 12/08/2003 9:57:54 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: tortoise
heres something i always wanted to know...if they were robots why did they have lifesupport systems in their ships.........hell why robot piloted ships, I could understand some kinda of transport ship to carry them(more than 3) from place to place.
171 posted on 12/08/2003 10:08:56 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Galactica 1980 : All copies of that show should be destroyed. No, not just that, all record of it's existence should be destroyed!

My exact opinion of the Night Fall movie, almost, but not quite totally unlike the short story and so so so bad...

172 posted on 12/08/2003 10:15:18 PM PST by null and void (The meek shall inherit the Earth. The Stars belong to the bold.)
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To: RandallFlagg
In a JTF television program which aired in Manhattan on Sunday, September 11, 1994 - precisely seven years to the day before the horrendous Muslim Nazi attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon - Chaim Ben Pesach explicitly predicted that the Muslim terrorists who bombed the Twin Towers in 1993 would return to finish their bloody work, mercilessly murdering thousands of Americans.

The audio is chilling.

173 posted on 12/08/2003 10:15:22 PM PST by tubavil
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To: RandallFlagg
Wow.  This is actually much, much better than I thought it would be.

Ever since the first ad, almost a year ago, I assumed it was going to suck.

So far, it's actually good Sci Fi.

174 posted on 12/08/2003 10:38:05 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Kewlhand`tek
if they were robots why did they have lifesupport systems in their ships--

Because there were actors inside those suits. Doh.
175 posted on 12/08/2003 11:29:12 PM PST by nae
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To: mhking
Well part of that is right Lost in Space, that's where it should be ....
176 posted on 12/09/2003 12:55:56 AM PST by .45MAN ("Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..")
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To: null and void
Not is your smart don't get either..
177 posted on 12/09/2003 12:56:26 AM PST by .45MAN ("Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..")
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To: yarddog
And Boomer is now a Chinese woman that is a traitor.
178 posted on 12/09/2003 12:57:14 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: Fledermaus
How is she a traitor?
179 posted on 12/09/2003 1:03:40 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I watched the late edition and was very surprised with it. Much better than I expected. Definitely will have to see part 2 tonight.
180 posted on 12/09/2003 1:05:23 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (...And second prize goes to Kenny, for his Edward James Olmos impersonation!)
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