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1 posted on 11/24/2003 11:55:22 AM PST by gaucho
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Forence A. Turner, 32, of Newark, suffered a gunshot wound to the foot

Ya think he shot HIMSELF?

2 posted on 11/24/2003 11:56:54 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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Yeah, but why didn't all the on-duty cops in the donut shop get involved?
3 posted on 11/24/2003 11:57:35 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: gaucho
Sheesh even a Libertarian would know not to rob a donut shop. After all, that's where the cops are 24/7 according to the Libertarians on FR.
4 posted on 11/24/2003 11:57:36 AM PST by Dane
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Memo to self: Never attempt to knock over a place populated by cops hyped up on sugar.
6 posted on 11/24/2003 12:00:04 PM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
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To: gaucho
Ummmm...Donuts....


7 posted on 11/24/2003 12:00:55 PM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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Dunkin Donuts? I could understand Krispy Kreme ...
8 posted on 11/24/2003 12:02:12 PM PST by 4CJ ('Scots vie 4 tavern juices' - anagram by paulklenk, 22 Nov 2003)
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On a serious note, I wonder how many New York and New Jersey Freepers have noticed the dramatic increase in shooting incidents in the New York City region over the last year or so.

At first I thought it was simply a case of an anti-gun media focusing so much attention on these incidents, but I've recently learned that this is a direct result of the decision by the state of New Jersey to stop any random vehicle stops on the New Jersey Turnpike by the NJ State Police.

9 posted on 11/24/2003 12:02:42 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
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That does it! Pull all troops police out of Newark NOW!
10 posted on 11/24/2003 12:03:02 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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The last time I was almost-mugged in Brooklyn I walked straight for the Dunkin Donuts a half-block away. Sure enough, there were two cops inside. The precinct was two blocks the other way, but I wanted a cop quick...
12 posted on 11/24/2003 12:03:24 PM PST by gridlock (OK, so I was wrong about Hillary! announcing for President. Sue me!)
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I feel bad for the shop after a shootout like that. I bet all their merchandise is full of holes!
13 posted on 11/24/2003 12:04:37 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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I was in a donut shop in Charleston, SC in 1988, with my then-girlfriend.

There must've been over two dozen cops in the place, doing change-of-shift paperwork. The lot was 100% cruisers--we had to park out on the street.

This crackhead wanders in, draws the pistol, fires one round into the ceiling and says, "THIS IS A STICK--"

He was dead before he hit the floor.
14 posted on 11/24/2003 12:07:17 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: gaucho
Forence A. Turner, >

Forence? Uh, never mind...

15 posted on 11/24/2003 12:07:22 PM PST by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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Robbing a donut shop? DOH!

But it can't take first prize in the dumb crook hall of fame. The best one I've heard was on a thread some time ago which described a doofus who tried to holdup a gunshop owner at knifepoint. Not only was the owner packing, but the place was full of policemen. The resulting deafening roar and the smell of cordite were tremendous.
21 posted on 11/24/2003 12:14:35 PM PST by DeFault User
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Never rob a cop bar or a donut shop.
23 posted on 11/24/2003 12:15:37 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Approximately 11 shots were fired by the officers and the suspect, Lt. Derek Glenn said.

This is what concerns me. Now, an idiot with a gun is entitled to miss; however a policeman who is PAID with my taxdollars should be able to hit what he is aiming at at least 75% of the time. We are not talking about hitting a 4 inch paper target, we are talking about a target with a radius of at least 12 inches. I'd like to see every bullet a cop shoots be a fatal one, but for them to unload at a suspect and miss potentially 100% of the time, or wing the suspect by hitting him in the foot (that's missing the target by ~4 feet)is unacceptable!! With a pattern that wide, the cop just as well may shoot randomly in the direction of the suspect. All they are doing is adding more stray gunfire to the atmosphere.

30 posted on 11/24/2003 12:23:47 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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