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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: JustPiper
Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that surveillance continues on behalf of our beloved country, and for freedom loving peoples of other nations. I pray, O God, that You would gather together the individual pieces of information and put them together as a clear picture of intent, and may we know when, and where, and by whom. Let not one shred of critical information fall by the wayside, but make it available to those who can act as our intercessors, to keep us from harm.

Thank You, Merciful Lord, that we daily continue in ordinary ways, yet extraordinary things are being accomplished out of our sight. Refresh those who stand watch ... let them not weary of the task ... grant them success, for anything less is devastation to innocent people.

Grant the greatest wisdom and direction to those in authority over us. We uphold them in prayer and ask for Divine protection, for surely this battle is spiritual. May the full force of the Heavenly Host surround these United States, such is the love You have shown us, and such is the love we have for this country. In the Name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...

9,801 posted on 01/13/2004 12:16:05 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Letitring
There's that Sami Shaban again.

That was my first thought too.

9,802 posted on 01/13/2004 12:17:25 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: comingsoon
Due to the nature of my job and associations with certain colleagues, I can tell you that you are on the right track.


9,804 posted on 01/13/2004 12:21:53 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Mossad1967
The following was posted this afternoon on the eom_and_daleel Yahoo group. I post it for the same reason as the author states - not to scare, just to inform everyone about the chatter going on. We report... you decide:

For those of you who know me, I apologize for the brief explanation
of who I am, for those that do not, here ya go.

My alias is Fullwave, I'm a dedicated member at Itshappening.com,
I'm a member of the II(Internet Intelligences), for those of you
emailing me, asking about which branch of the GOVT, I reside in, I
cannot safely say and I apologize for my anonymity.

As for my job description, I research Al-Qaeda websites, Postings,
Jihad Propaganda, and I specialize in Steganography(De-crypting,
Encrypted Images).

Lately again, there has been a rise in terror chatter, since the
lowering of the threat level to "yellow". Please note, that this
does not adequately indicate the actual threat assessment of our
homeland, but is infact a way to save money.

Recently, Al-Qaeda Intelligences, not just Jihad and Islamic
Extremists, are posting about an impending, imminent Nuclear Attack
on an American city. Many who usually post, have declared just
recently, that they were leaving the boards to complete their
mission and will be back to celebrate with the rest. They are
asking that Muslims and the like, prepare for a huge celebration in
the streets, as a American City is destroyed.

I wanted to say, be safe, have extras of everything. If you haven't
already prepared an emergency family plan, or gathered emergency
items, such as batteries, radios, water and the like, do so
immediately.

I am not meaning to scare anyone, I just want to make sure everyone
is safe. With that, I'll leave you with a recent posting from a
high ranking, Al-Qaeda Intelligence Officer.

Fullwave
Internet Intelligence

------------------------------
(ROUGHLY TRANSLATED)

The warning of the countdown started that for hitting an America got
ready

Peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you it to Allah soldiers
( the militants )

The countdown has started for the hitting of stronger hitting
America from the nuclear weapon

Therefore they got ready therefore except if America withdrew from
Iraq and Afghanistan

And all of the Islamic states and who with them ordered the
settlement of the rulers and who

He was with them .

The Al-Qaeda intelligences
12 January 2004
20 Dhu'l Qadah are 1424
The source is the Al-Qaeda intelligences and the penetration of this
forum and the writer have taken place

9,805 posted on 01/13/2004 12:26:32 PM PST by PrivateIdaho
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To: Mossad1967
Between the "Eids".

The countdowm clock and "EOM" posts are hoaxes.



I believe the countdown clock is only signifcant in that it counts down to the end of Eid-al-Adha.

The aleged 'warning' was that it would happened between the 'Eids' - Eid-al-Fitr (Nov 24 or Nov 25) and Eid-al-Adha (Ends ~ Feb 2)


Steve
9,806 posted on 01/13/2004 12:31:44 PM PST by SCR1
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To: Dr.Deth
LOL poor widdle Nemo LOL
9,807 posted on 01/13/2004 12:40:20 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: PrivateIdaho
This source is not far off.

The concern is there.

Going from Orange to Yellow was financial in nature.
9,808 posted on 01/13/2004 12:40:44 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Dr.Deth
LOL poor widdle Nemo LOL
9,809 posted on 01/13/2004 12:41:50 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: tubavil
Can you start a NEW THREAD based on actual news ??
This one is getting too big to follow
9,810 posted on 01/13/2004 12:42:31 PM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
what level is your mind currently boggled?

As boggled as Bush's immigration policy?

9,811 posted on 01/13/2004 12:45:16 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Wasn't it a 747?
9,812 posted on 01/13/2004 12:47:38 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: LayoutGuru2
I'm confused. So you just entered the script?
9,813 posted on 01/13/2004 12:49:58 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Velveeta
BREAKING NEWS

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9,814 posted on 01/13/2004 12:54:53 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: PrivateIdaho; Mossad1967
Yikes.....Couple all this with statements from people like Shay? regarding flying and the quote on Northeast Intelligence Network from Jim Sinclair of the Gold Market Summary it makes me sit up a little more straight. I tend to lean more toward a land or sea based threat.

9,815 posted on 01/13/2004 12:58:22 PM PST by labowski ("The Dude Abideth")
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To: Domestic Church; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Cindy; pttttt
More on Victor Li, he is the son of Li Ka-Shing.

Li Ka-Shing has also:

Li Ka-Shing Seeks U.S. Contract
Charles R. Smith
Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2002
Hutchison Whampoa Teams With U.S. Defense Firm for Port Security

Hutchison Whampoa, the firm that currently runs both ends of the Panama Canal, is teaming up with an American technology company in a bid to win tens of millions of dollars in U.S. port security funding.

Three companies – Hutchison Whampoa Ltd., PSA Corp. Ltd. of Singapore, and London-based P&O Ports – will test an advanced electronic system manufactured by California-based Savi Technology to ensure the security of cargo entering U.S. ports. Hutchison Whampoa's effort to obtain a U.S. government contract has been confirmed by Savi Technology, the American partner in the joint venture.

"We are working with Hutchison and the port of Seattle on a pilot project," stated Savi's Senior Vice President for the Public Sector Ken Wykle.

"The pilot with Hutchison is intended to track cargo from Hong Kong to Seattle. Once the pilot project is complete, we will seek federal funding.

"We also have two other pilot projects – one with PSA, which will track cargo from Singapore to Seattle, and a follow-on with P&O, which will track cargo from Rotterdam to the New York and New Jersey ports," stated Wykle.

The three shipping companies are putting up seed money for the pilot phase of the project. However, there is a great potential for U.S. government contract funding, including $28 million in emergency funds already appropriated by Congress for port security and an additional $83 million in annual port security grants being considered in Congress.

RFID Tracking Technology

Savi already produces an electronic system called RFID, or "radio frequency ID," that transmits the exact location of any tagged cargo. The RFID system has been purchased by the U.S. Defense Department to track critical cargo shipments around the world.

Yet intelligence sources have confirmed that the Chinese army is also very interested in the RFID technology. The sources confirmed that the same technology has been examined by the PLA for use as a "poor man's smart bomb." The tracking devices can be rigged to detonate a hidden explosive device or release chemical weapons only when they have arrived at their intended destination.

Li Ka-Shing & Communist Chinese in Business

The bid by Hutchison Whampoa to acquire U.S. government funding is also expected to run into heavy opposition inside Congress. The owner of Hutchison Whampoa, Hong Kong tycoon Li Ka-Shing, is well known to be very close to the Chinese communist government. Li is reportedly in business with Chinese President Jiang Zemin's son, developing properties in Tiananmen Square.

For example, Li Ka-Shing is so close to the Chinese government that the Clinton White House gave his bio, along with the bio of the entire top communist Chinese leadership, to the CEO of Loral Aerospace, Bernard Schwartz, just prior to the 1994 Ron Brown trade trip to Beijing. Li was the only civilian in the bios given to the million-dollar DNC donor.

Li apparently did have a great deal of interest in U.S. space technology. He has served as a middleman for PLA satellite purchases. For example, Li financed several satellite deals between the U.S. Hughes Corporation and China Hong Kong Satellite (CHINASAT), a company owned by the People's Liberation Army unit COSTIND.

Besides buying satellites for the PLA, in 1997 Li Ka-Shing and the Chinese navy nearly obtained four huge roll-on/roll-off container ships from America. These ships were intended to transport PLA military cargo. The ships were part of a multimillion-dollar deal that would have been financed by U.S. taxpayers.

In an exclusive deal with the People's Republic of China's communist government, Li has the right of first refusal over all PRC ports south of the Yangtze River. Li Ka-Shing has invested more than a billion dollars in China and owns most of the dock space in Hong Kong.

Red Chinese Panama Canal Deal

Li Ka-Shing currently owns both the Pacific and Atlantic ports on the Panama Canal. A Senate Committee on Foreign Relations staff report on the privatization of the Panamanian ports dated May 14, 1997, identified Hutchison's subsidiary HIT, or Panama Ports Company, as being 10 percent owned by China Resources Enterprise (CRE), which is the commercial arm of China's "Ministry of Trade and Economic Co-operation."

During the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee hearings, the South China Morning Post on July 16, 1997, quoted Sen. Fred Thompson as saying China Resources was "an agent of espionage – economic, military, and political – for China."

COSCO and Li Ka-Shing

Li Ka-Shing's official business partner is the national flag carrier of Beijing, the Chinese Ocean Shipping Company, also known as COSCO. According to a 1998 congressional report on Chinese espionage, there is "information" that then-President Clinton did not allow to be made public on COSCO.

"Although presented as a commercial entity, COSCO is actually an arm of the Chinese military establishment. The Clinton administration has determined that additional information concerning COSCO that appears in the Select Committee's classified Final Report cannot be made public," stated the report that was written by the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare.

Li Ka-Shing attempted to purchase the military port of Long Beach, Calif., for COSCO but failed after the U.S. Department of Defense raised national security concerns over the proposed sale.

A June 1997 Rand report, "Chinese Military Commerce and U.S. National Security," stated, "Hutchison Whampoa of Hong Kong, controlled by Hong Kong billionaire Li Ka Shing, is also negotiating for PLA wireless system contracts, which would build upon his equity interest in PLA arms company Poly Tech-owned Yangpu Land Development Company, which is building infrastructure on China's Hainan Island."

$35 Million Into U.S. Firm From Offshore

It is not known if the U.S. partner of Li Ka-Shing, Savi Technology, is aware of the billionaire's close working relationship with the Chinese government or the joint ventures that Hutchison Whampoa has with the Chinese army.

However, Savi received a $35 million investment in June 2002 from a Singapore-based firm just prior to announcing the joint effort with Hutchison. How the sudden influx of offshore monies will affect Savi's U.S. Defense contract status is also not known.

Li Ka-Shing Testifies Before Congress

According to the former prosecutor and executive director of the Canadian Police Association, Li Ka-Shing's Hutchison Whampoa seeking U.S. government funding for port security raises serious national security and law enforcement questions.

"I'd like to suggest that the appropriate congressional committee hold hearings into this important issue and that they call Li Ka-Shing as the first witness," stated Scott Newark, who is currently a special security adviser to the government of Ontario.

"I volunteer to be second, but frankly, there are people far more knowledgeable than me in this regard, including, for example, the International Association of Airport and Seaport Police, which just held their conference in NYC. As a speaker at that conference, I urged ridding ports of such crime and rogue government-connected companies not making them the local constabulary.

"There is no question that Hutchison Whampoa is a commercial maritime interest with great experience in port operations matters. Given the seriousness of what's at stake, it is obvious that this request should be considered seriously and result in full scrutiny of the current holdings and business relationships of Hutchison Whampoa and any history of activity that would raise concerns in relation to any or all of the above issues," said Newark.

According to Newark, there are five critical issues at stake: preventing smuggling of drugs, guns and people; preventing export of stolen products; providing site security as a result of 9-11; preventing terrorism-related smuggling; and preventing terrorist attacks on ships leaving ports.

Full Scrutiny of Hutchison Whampoa

"We need full scrutiny of the principals of Hutchison Whampoa and all of their business- or government-related associations and any history of any activity of them or their associates – including links to organized crime and terrorist groups, activities or states supporting the same – that would raise concerns to any of the above," stated Newark.

"We should give full scrutiny to any relationship of Hutchison Whampoa, its partners, directors or officers with any foreign government that would raise concerns to any or all of the above issues," noted Newark.

"Further, our Parliament is currently considering a bill that, among other things, provides a framework for port security requirements. I have already been approached to testify, and in light of this alarming development I will now specifically raise this issue and urge our government to ensure the same careful and public scrutiny of this company, its principals and their murky connections as I have here," concluded Newark.



9,816 posted on 01/13/2004 1:03:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
Yep, that's the guy.
9,817 posted on 01/13/2004 1:05:29 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: Mossad1967
If they do have a nuke I wonder where who they got it from.If we find out it was NK that could be serious. I would assume as soon as it explodes here they would attack the south immediately.If it is a pak nuke that would be the end of pakistan as we know it.What will our response be if after they blow the first one they announce they have another and will detonate it if demands are not met? This is all scary stuff for sure.
9,818 posted on 01/13/2004 1:08:28 PM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
Iran, North Korea and Syria might cease to exist in its current condition.
9,819 posted on 01/13/2004 1:14:28 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Mossad1967
I agree. Too costly to maintain. Additionally, I think that "areas of concern" have been bumped to an almost-red level. I agree with you on timing as well.
9,820 posted on 01/13/2004 1:18:55 PM PST by jerseygirl
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