[John H K]

Thanks, this was necessary as there's NEVER been a creation v. evolution thread on FR before.

[Consort]

If we can find a third alternative, then Creation vs. Evolution won't matter. Does it matter now?

[So Cal Rocket]

It's not a question of "proof".

Scientific answers require proof.
Spiritualistic answers require faith.

I'll take faith over proof any day.

[LiteKeeper]

I believe with you - however, there are endless threads of this topic on this forum. Suggest you do a search for one of them. This type of thread always generates more "heat" than "light"

LiteKeeper
Chaplain, US Army, retired
Young Earth Creationist

[steplock]

I believe in Evolutionary Creationism

Who among mortals can positively state WHAT a day means to the CREATOR who lives in ETERNITY?

Not I.

[rface]

I personally believe in Creation as the way the Bible teaches it in six literal days.

I suspect that you are here just to stir up trouble and that you've already had at least one account banned and this will just be another.

[Right Wing Professor]

I personally believe in Creation as the way the Bible teaches it in six literal days.

J. Greene Since Oct 30, 2003. So I guess you're a freeper for less than one literal day.

[I got the rope]

ROTFLMAO!

[70times7]

Before I even looked I knew you have not been around here long... let the flames begin.

Just being able to post so early in a thread that is (as usual) likely to go into the 200 to 300+ range (with nothing new to add) is making me think I may play the lottery tonight.

bye all!

[Lee Heggy]

by Jopi Louko, Institute of Stork Research, University of
Alberta)

Ovulation versus cretinism

Two different theories exist concerning the origin of children: the theory
of sexual reproduction, and the theory of the stork. Many people believe in
the theory of sexual reproduction because they have been taught this theory
at school.

In reality, however, many of the world's leading scientists are in favour
of the theory of the stork. If the theory of sexual reproduction is taught
in schools, it must only be taught as a theory and not as the truth.
Alternative theories, such as the theory of the stork, must also be taught.

Evidence supporting the theory of the stork includes the following:

1. It is a scientifically established fact that the stork does exist. This
can be confirmed by every ornithologist.

2. The alleged human foetal development contains several features that the
theory of sexual reproduction is unable to explain.

3. The theory of sexual reproduction implies that a child is approximately
nine months old at birth. This is an absurd claim. Everyone knows that a
newborn child is newborn.

4. According to the theory of sexual reproduction, children are a result of
sexual intercourse. There are, however, several well documented cases where
sexual intercourse has not led to the birth of a child.

5. Statistical studies in the Netherlands have indicated a positive
correlation between the birth rate and the number of storks. Both are
decreasing.

6. The theory of the stork can be investigated by rigorous scientific
methods. The only assumption involved is that children are delivered by the
stork.

[Physicist]

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

[J. Greene]

I want serious statements in here. PLEASE, I would very much appreciate it.

[Lee Heggy]

Ok. Mr Greene. Here are some pertinant statements regarding this topic in specific and in general. Some I agree with and some are still being mulled about in my mind. Enjoy.


"If I were granted omnipotence, and millions of years to experiment in, I should not think Man much to boast of as the final result of all my efforts" -Bertrand Russell

"Believing is easier than thinking. Hence so many more believers than thinkers." -Bruce Calvert

"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge." -Albert Einstein

"Only the very ignorant are perfectly satisfied that they know. To the common man the great problems are easy. He has no trouble in accounting for the universe. He can tell you the origin and destiny of man and the why and wherefore of things. But honest men do not pretend to know; they are candid and sincere; they love the truth; they admit their ignorance, and they say, "We do not know."" -- Robert Green Ingersoll

"Give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith. Banish me from Eden when you will but first let me eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge." -- Robert Green Ingersoll

"Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know." -- Michel Eyquem de Montaigne (1533-1592) .

"Today, the theory of evolution is an accepted fact for everyone but a fundamentalist minority, whose objections are based not on reasoning but on doctrinaire adherence to religious principles." - James Dewey Watson

"It is the final proof of God's omnipotence that he need not exist in order to save us." - Peter De Vries (1910-1993)

"One does not have to appeal to God to set the initial conditions for the creation of the universe, but if one does He would have to act through the laws of physics." -Stephen Hawking, English scientist

"Science is the record of dead religions." -Oscar Wilde

"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." -John Adams, U.S. President

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." -Isaac Asimov

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." -Benjamin Franklin

"The Church says that the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the Church." -Ferdinand Magellan, Portuguese & Spanish explorer

"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." -George Bernard Shaw

"I don't think we're here for anything, we're just products of evolution. You can say 'Gee, your life must be pretty bleak if you don't think there's a purpose', but I'm anticipating a good lunch." -James Watson

"Faith means not wanting to know what is true." -Freidrich Nietzsche

"There is so much in the bible against which every insinct of my being rebels, so much so that I regret the necessity which has compelled me to read it through from beginning to end. I do not think that the knowledge I have gained of its history and sources compensates me for the unpleasant details it has forced upon my attention." -Helen Keller

"We discover in the gospels a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, of superstition, fanaticism and fabrication." -Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President

"Fear believes--courage doubts. Fear falls up the earth and prays--- courage stands erect and thinks. Fear is barbarism---courage is civilization. Fear believes in witchcraft, devils and ghosts. Fear is religion, courage is science." -Robert G. Ingersoll