'Negotiations have begun!' France invites Britain back into EU and claims Brexit has 'failed'

GB News ^ | June 25, 2026

[MinorityRepublican]

France is ready to discuss a 'Breturn' if and when Andy Burnham takes over at No10, one minister revealed.

A French minister has flung open the doors for Britain to return to the EU - in the face of the wishes of 17,410,742 British voters.

Claiming Brexit has "failed", Jean-Noel Barrot, the French Foreign Minister also backed Andy Burnham - who previously said he would like to see Britain rejoin the bloc - to become Prime Minister.

Mr Burnham said while campaigning he was "not proposing that the UK considers rejoining the EU", adding that he respected the result of the 2016 Brexit referendum.

Now, when asked whether he would like the Makerfield MP to become Prime Minister, Mr Barrot told France 5: "I hope, at any rate, that he does indeed manage to secure the post he's aiming for, because there are, after all, a number of internal procedures.

He also said France was prepared to discuss a "Breturn".

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[FLT-bird]

Cronos, your thoughts? Will the Froggies demand abject surrender....ie the pound and everything else? If so, it would be politically impossible even for Burnham. Or will they allow the UK to come back in under the old terms? I don’t think that would pass muster with British voters either but its a possibility if the French offer it.

Ready to rethink whether or not the British political establishment deliberately sabotaged any chance to make Brexit actually work for Britain?

[Candor7]

France has perpetrated an act of war on the UK by creating a demographic invasion , with the help of NWO Starmer.

Put those froggies in their place.They have been smarting ever since the 100 Year War.

Oooops! I forgot. Starmer made sure the UK has no military capability.Looks like the British People will have to use their guns! Ooops ! I forgot again,,,,the population of Britain has been disarmed ! Back to pikes and poles.

And the left is trying the same shtick in America.But for Trump it would have been a done deal.

[Pocketdoor]

seems like they were all good before this EU crap storm. now they have a Muslim invasion.

[Olog-hai]

Michel Barnier already demanded surrender to the EUSSR dictatorship.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4385434/posts

[Vermont Lt]

It’s funny, the arrogant French think Britain’s problems stem from Brexit. And not ten years of crap immigration policy.

Idiots.

[quantim]

Exactly to the point, read recently that France is quietly pushing thousands of illegals from everywhere to the English Channel because they don’t want them in their welfare state and the Brits will take them.

[MoraBlack]

Brexit was a pipe dream from the start. Brexit voters were made to believe they could get rid of immigration and EU interference while keeping unimpeded access to the EU market. Now they are left with the worst of both worlds. I hope there’s a way back for the UK, but i doubt it.

[neverevergiveup]

Europe has become a cesspool.

[Cronos]

MinorityRepublican - why does your post say it’s from GB News but ‘read more at France24” and when I click on the France 24 link, it doesn’t show the article?

[Cronos]

MinorityRepublican - why does your post say it’s from GB News but ‘read more at France24” and when I click on the France 24 link, it doesn’t show the article?

the link should be https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/france-britain-return-eu-brexit-gabriel-attal

[Cronos]

no way!

This is exactly the opposite of what I wrote in https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4385434/posts?page=9#9

“France does not want the UK back in the EU.

Poland, Romania, italy etc would be willing to let the UK back with the same opt outs it had before but France will not countenance it - they didn’t want ths UK in the first place.

France will insist that the conditions for the UK joining are
1. Give up the pound
2. Join the Schengen

Most of the REMAIN voters would baulk at that.

I do not see rejoining as happening anytime soon”

To FLT-bird — you forgot to ping me :)

“my thoughts”? I think any kind of such move to “BReturn” now is a mistake - and my reasons for stating it is a mistake to return now are:
1. Britain needs to experience at least a couple of decades outside the EU to fully understand whether leaving was truly a mistake or not
2. If they reverse it now, this will cause even more economic damage
3. Ultimately, by the rules of the 2016 referendum LEAVE won - I still hold that the referendum was badly managed and organized, but it happened.

“Will the Froggies demand abject surrender....ie the pound and everything else?”

—> I fully believe that to be the case, but would not term it “abject surrender” - remember that the UK joining in gives it an equal voice IN the euroworld.

The UK pre-Brexit had a LOT of opt-outs, a lot of special conditions. France will NOT let them have this again

We must remember that back in the 60s the UK applied to join the EEC, but De Gaulle vetoed them, and even later in the 1970s, France was reluctant.

From my standpoint, even forgetting the economic and global standing prestige the EU had by the UK being a member, even more than that the UK was a bulwark against France’s tendencies - and the EU is weakened by the UK no longer being a member

[Cronos]

“Or will they allow the UK to come back in under the old terms?”

I do not believe they will.

If you read the article - https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/france-britain-return-eu-brexit-gabriel-attal

you have:

1. the French foreign minister says Brexit failed
2. he said that the UK is weaker outside the EU
3. He said France was prepared to discuss a “Breturn” - prepared to.. not actually discussing
4. AND THEN HERE IS THE ARTICLE’s SNEAKINESS - the minister actually said “Negotiations have already begun between the UK and the European Union to re-establish ties”

you see #4 — the negotiations are about “re-establishing ties” - not about BReturn.

It is highly disingenuous of the article’s title to imply that this was “negotiations to rejoin the EU” - that is a lying title

[chajin]

We thought the vote over ten years ago settled this, but I am forced once again to repeat myself: nothing is ever settled until it is settled the way the left wants it settled. They never quit; we always give in eventually. There is only one way to settle this in our favor, and one dare not say it.

[Cronos]

Then, flt-bird, you wrote "Ready to rethink whether or not the British political establishment deliberately sabotaged any chance to make Brexit actually work for Britain?" (and I owe you a response on the other thread, will do so today)

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity or incompetence"

The Brexit referendum was stupidly done leaving ONLY AMBIGUITY. What should have happened was:

1. Mandatory voting - everyone had to vote (like Aussie elections) - so no one later saying "I didn't vote, so not my opinion'

2. The referendum should have been two Questions:
Question 1: "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" Voters were given the choices to either mark "Remain a member of the European Union" or "Leave the European Union".
Question 2a: "if you vote LEAVE, then you have to choose WHAT TYPE of Brexit you want (choose in ranking order of 1st choice, 2nd choice and 3rd choice):

1. Like Norway(the UK joins the EEA allowing full access to the single market but accepting the 4 freedoms, contributing to the EU budget, and following EU laws without having a say in making them)
2. Like Turkey - customs union. No tariffs but the trading is aligned to EU rules
3. Like Canada - Free trade Agreemetn with independent rules and hard borders
4. WTO rules only

The gridlock in 2016-2020 was because no one knew exactly what John Bull meant by "Brexit" - it could have been any of the above 4 options. Flt-bird insists that they should have "just got it done" - but doesn't say what "it" was - and literally no one knew

flt-bird - if the political parties all somehow reached a consensus that "Brexit means the norway model" - would you have agreed that 'they just get it done'?

[AppyPappy]

As France sends boatloads of violent freeloaders towards Britain.

[Cronos]

taking a deviation out of this to address Candor7's Put those froggies in their place.They have been smarting ever since the 100 Year War.

Candor - you do realize that:

1. the 'French' i.e. the Parisian house of capet WON the 100 years war
2. It wasn't a war between England and France per se but between the House of Capet vs the House of Anjou
3. initially BOTH the houses were "French speaking"
4. If the "English" Kings had succeeded in retaining the "French" throne, what would have happened is that nous aurions écrit cela en français

[FLT-bird]

I maintain it was sabotage. Just look at the people we are talking about. Look how much British Elites have long hated the British people.

"It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during 'God Save the King' than of stealing from a poor box." - George Orwell 1941

Its an open, sneering contempt. They called those who supported Brexit "Gammon" implying they were basically all stupid, ignorant, backward, xenophobic, racist rednecks who were shouty and were red in the face at seeing the changes the elites had wrought to Britain without their consent. (We Americans recognize the exact equivalent in our own elites....ie "Bitter....clinging to guns and religion"..."basket of deplorables"...."chumps"... "losers"...."dregs"...."White Supremacist"... "Christian Nationalist" etc etc....by which they mean regular Americans.

Look at how the British Elites fostered and supported mass immigration for literally generations without ever obtaining the consent of the British People - who indicated many many times that they did not want it. Look how they collaborated with the systematic gang rape of a quarter million White English girls by Pakistani Muslim rape gangs then did their level best to cover it up....the police..the civil servants...the government media (ie the Beeb), politicians...the entire political establishment. Look how they impose Gaia Worship on the British people despite them not supporting it and despite it crushing their economy.

These people hate their own country and its people. They love globalism, the whole idea of Europe, open borders, etc. You really think they wouldn't sabotage the people telling them that they were wrong and had to change one of their sacred policies? Of course they would. These are the nastiest, most hypocritical, most petty, most vindictive people in the world. They would do it out of spite alone even if they knew it would not lead Britain back into the EU.

[Cronos]

To elaborate on the

Candor - you do realize that:

1. the 'French' i.e. the Parisian house of capet WON the 100 years war
2. It wasn't a war between England and France per se but between the House of Capet vs the House of Anjou
3. initially BOTH the houses were "French speaking"
4. If the "English" Kings had succeeded in retaining the "French" throne, what would have happened is that nous aurions écrit cela en français

The 100 years war was NOT really a "war between nations" - rather it was a war between two "family firms" - the house of Capet vs the House of Anjou

The House of Capet itself was through the FEMALE line linked to Charlemagne -- Charlemagne's son "Pepin of Italy"'s descendant was Hugh's mother --> so Hugh Capet was a great-great-great-great-great-grandson of through the female line

the throne should have gone to Charles Duke of Lower Lorraine - Charles was the head of the only surviving, legitimate, direct male-line of the Carolingian dynasty - AND the Uncle of the last Carolingian King - king Louis V.

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Anyway, I digress --> So Charles IV of France dies and there is no heir.

Edward 3 decides to play for the throne!

Now here --. Edward III of 'England' spoke French as his primary, native language -- just like the kings before him for nearly 3 centuries

While Edward III promoted English to unify his populace, French remained the primary language of his immediate household. It wasn't until his grandson, Henry IV, that an English monarch spoke English as their very first, native language.

Do NOT Think Eddie 3 was 'English' - not even in the lands he ruled - his kingdom was

This is smaller than that of henry II of england --.

that land was lost due to King John

The Capetians ultimately WON the war - but either way, 'France' would have won - and let me explain that next

[Cronos]

That last map I posted was incomplete - The Angevin lands were LARGER than the lands held by the Capetian kings

What would have happened if at ANY point during the hundred years war, an "english" king had won and established a permanent kingship?

think about it, Candor7? it would be like when the Mongols or the Manchu conquered China - within a few generations the conquerors are absorbed into the conquered

France would have culturally and politically swallowed England, creating a massive Anglo-French superpower centered in Paris.

If Edward III had forced the Valois to capitulate after the battles of Crécy or Poitiers, the changes would have been immediate and structural. Edward III and his successors would have moved the primary royal court to Paris. France was far wealthier, more populous, and culturally dominant. London would have been relegated to a secondary, provincial capital.

'english' was still developing at that time - read Chaucer and while it is less Germanic than Beowulf's 'Old english' it is still hard to understand -- the linguistic transition toward Middle English would have been sharply reversed. With the Anglo-French elite permanently anchored in Paris, French would have solidified its status as the language of power, law, and literature across the British Isles.

A unified Anglo-French crown would have completely dominated the Low Countries, likely absorbing Flanders early on and preventing the rise of an independent, powerful Duchy of Burgundy.

you would have had a "French" speaking superpower from the pyrenees to the borders with the Holy Roman Empire - all of Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Gascon, Anjou, France, Burgundy, the Lowlands, all under a king claiming legitimacy from both Charlemagne and from Alfred.

I don't think we can speculate further than the 1500s as the Reformation could have gone any number of ways -- all we can say with certainty is that English as we know it today would NOT exist and it is highly likely that England and France would not exist as we know them today