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Is Trump Derangement Syndrome New?
Vanity | October 27, 2025 | CIB-173RDABN

Posted on 10/27/2025 7:34:33 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN

Is Trump Derangement Syndrome New? Or the Latest Expression of a Deep American Divide?

In recent years, political hostility toward President Donald J. Trump has been so intense that some label it a form of irrational obsession—Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). But is this a new phenomenon? Or is it part of a recurring cycle in American history in which the nation becomes split into opposing camps that no longer agree on what America is—or should be?

Before proceeding, it is important to note that this essay does not attempt to provide a detailed history of every presidency or political conflict in American history. Each example mentioned—Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Nixon, FDR—has a far deeper and more complex story than can be fully explored here. The purpose of this discussion is not to provide comprehensive biographies, but to illustrate a recurring pattern: when the nation is divided between two incompatible visions of itself, intense personal and political hatred emerges. These examples serve as representative snapshots, showing that what appears new today in the form of TDS is actually part of a long-standing American tradition.

I. Political Hatred Arises From Deep Structural Division

In every era of extreme presidential hatred, the issue was not merely the personality of the leader—but the fear that this leader represented one half of the nation rising to dominate and extinguish the other. The conflict existed independently of the individual; the person simply became the public symbol around which the dispute crystallized. If Jefferson and Adams had not been the figures of their time, someone else would have emerged to embody each side. The structural conflict—over federal power, economic organization, social order, or national identity—would have persisted regardless.

1800: Adams vs. Jefferson – A Fight Over the Soul of the Republic

The nation was nearly evenly split between Federalists (urban, commercial, pro-British, strong federal government) and Jeffersonian Republicans (agrarian, rural, pro-France, decentralized power). Opposition did not appear out of nowhere; these divisions had been simmering for years over policy, ideology, and the nature of democracy. Core issue: Who should govern America—elite institutions or the common people?

1828: Andrew Jackson – Populism vs. the Eastern Establishment

Jackson had massive support in the rural South and West, while the Northeast elite despised him. Core issue: Should the nation be run by a centralized financial aristocracy or a populist democracy rooted in land and local control?

1860: Abraham Lincoln – A Nation Beyond Compromise

Lincoln did not win a single Southern state. His election triggered secession because the South viewed him as a symbol of the incompatibility of their slave-based society with the industrial North. Core issue: Can two different civilizations—slave-based and free labor—coexist in one nation?

1930s: FDR – Class Warfare and the Role of Government

FDR won large public support, but financial and corporate elites openly opposed him. Core issue: Should government guarantee economic security, or should it remain largely hands-off?

1960s–70s: Nixon – The Silent Majority vs. Cultural Revolution

Nixon’s opposition began long before his presidency, rooted in his anti-communist Senate career, yet it intensified during the 1960s cultural and urban upheavals. Core issue: What is America’s identity—traditional, conservative, law-and-order, or a nation remade by secular, cultural, and global forces?

Today: Trump – Two Americas Facing Each Other

Urban, coastal, academic, and media elites largely oppose him; rural, working-class, religious, and middle America support him. This is nearly a 50/50 cultural, geographic, and ideological divide. Core issue: Is America a sovereign nation with a distinct identity, or part of a global system managed by international elites?

II. Individuals as Symbols, Not Root Causes

Across history, intense political opposition emerges when structural conflicts cannot be resolved. The individual at the center—Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Nixon, Trump—becomes a lightning rod, a symbol of one side of the debate. The conflict existed before the person became prominent and would have persisted afterward, manifested through someone else if necessary. This perspective clarifies why TDS is not a new psychological phenomenon, but the latest instance of a pattern: Americans rally against the person who embodies the threat to their vision of the nation.

III. Why Hatred Seems Amplified Today

The hatred itself is not unprecedented; only its speed, scale, and visibility are.

Conclusion: A Pattern, Not a Personality

Trump Derangement Syndrome is not about Trump himself. It is about a nation split between incompatible visions of its identity, governance, and place in the world. Historical examples—from Jefferson and Jackson to Lincoln, FDR, and Nixon—show that when such fundamental divisions exist, intense personal and political hatred inevitably emerges. Individuals become symbols, not creators, of these conflicts.

What appears to be unprecedented today is largely a product of technology and media. The structural tension—the real cause of TDS—has been a constant in American political life. Recognizing this helps us see TDS not as a new pathology, but as the latest expression of a recurring, deeply American phenomenon: the clash between competing visions of what the nation should be.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: iwbg; tds; tldr; vanity
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1 posted on 10/27/2025 7:34:33 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Started here:
2 posted on 10/27/2025 7:38:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

The Daisy Commercial, but no it did not start there. I started in 1776 when the nation was being born. The United States is such a diverse nation it is a wonder it works at all. My point is that TDS is part of the United States history, it just seems more intense, well actually it is more intense, because of our technology. It amplifies everything.

As Lincoln was a man of his times. President Trump is a man of this time.


3 posted on 10/27/2025 7:45:45 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“Individuals as Symbols, Not Root Causes”

A key section. Trump is the current standard bearer of the MAGA cause, not the creater of the movement. Others could fill the same role. Hopefully someone will going forward!


4 posted on 10/27/2025 7:58:43 AM PDT by TheDon (Remember the J6 political prisoners! Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

It’s a good essay, but I’m not sure there was TDS-like hatred in the past. The modern Democrats and their buddies in the media have said that Trump is Hitler and a “threat to ‘our’ democracy” to the point that I think they actually believe it.


5 posted on 10/27/2025 7:59:11 AM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN and HATE-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is not about Trump himself.

It's both about Trump AND how effective he is.

6 posted on 10/27/2025 8:01:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: CIB-173RDABN
The nation was nearly evenly split between Federalists (urban, commercial, pro-British, strong federal government) and Jeffersonian Republicans (agrarian, rural, pro-France, decentralized power). Opposition did not appear out of nowhere; these divisions had been simmering for years over policy, ideology, and the nature of democracy. Core issue: Who should govern America—elite institutions or the common people?

And it was the commercial urbanites who were the conservatives. The rural agrarians supported the French Revolution. (Also remember, George Washington was a Federalist.)

The same could be said about the Jacksonian era.

7 posted on 10/27/2025 8:02:57 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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Before “Trump Derangement Syndrome” there was “Bush Derangement Syndrome”.

Before that ... we didn’t call it “Reagan Derangement Syndrome” or “Nixon Derangement Syndrome” ... but the terms would definitely have applied to the democRATs’ state of mind.


8 posted on 10/27/2025 8:04:00 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: libertylover

It’s a good essay, but I’m not sure there was TDS-like hatred in the past. The modern Democrats and their buddies in the media have said that Trump is Hitler and a “threat to ‘our’ democracy” to the point that I think they actually believe it.


Actually it was.


9 posted on 10/27/2025 8:04:17 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: libertylover
Trump is Hitler

How quickly "we" (some of us, anyway) forget.

The term "XXXXX Derangement Syndrome" was coined on FR when George W. Bush was President.

Remember this?

Some people on FR might actually agree with that ... the groupthink around here has certainly changed in the last 20 years.

10 posted on 10/27/2025 8:09:07 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: BenLurkin
Not even close.
11 posted on 10/27/2025 9:15:29 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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To: CIB-173RDABN; All

Didn’t Lincoln face the same thing?


12 posted on 10/27/2025 9:18:51 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: libertylover

I agree there was hatred and a pre type TDS hatred in the past.

That said, the degree of lunacy has increased with the woke, gay, and trans, idiocy.

The TDSism has become very violent and the people severely infected are much more dangerous than in the past. You can see it in the looks and demeanor of many of the dangerous ones.

Extreme hate has become fanatical obsessed hate. I believe the internet has been a great tool to indoctrinate and spread the hate. These people are really mentally deranged now. They have lost any shred of a conscience.


13 posted on 10/27/2025 9:32:18 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SMARTY

Didn’t Lincoln face the same thing?

Yes.


14 posted on 10/27/2025 9:45:25 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

It’s never been just Trump Derangement Syndrome, it has been any republican president elected after Eisenhower.


15 posted on 10/27/2025 9:55:45 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

It’s never been just Trump Derangement Syndrome, it has been any republican president elected after Eisenhower.


It goes back to the founding of our nation, it just seems that it is a recent situation.


16 posted on 10/27/2025 9:58:55 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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17 posted on 10/27/2025 10:16:04 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Trump Derangement is not new. There was BRS (Bush derangement syndrome), there was MDS (McCaine derangement syndrome). Anyone the Republicans put up will be labeled as Nazis.


18 posted on 10/27/2025 10:31:26 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ( Covfefe! )
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“ What appears to be unprecedented today is largely a product of technology and media.”

That’s rather obvious and could have served as the entire post or in a good analysis the introduction.

“ Before proceeding, it is important to note that this essay does not attempt to provide a detailed history of every presidency or political conflict in American history.”

So you’re not going to do what could possibly be novel and worthwhile


19 posted on 10/27/2025 11:10:47 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Anyone the Republicans put up will be labeled as Nazis.

Since the 1948 election.

Prior to that we were something that if I say it on FR I will get this post pulled.

20 posted on 10/27/2025 11:21:05 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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