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Can Obama And Others Actually Be Charged With Seditious Conspiracy? Here's Why I Ask.
US Code. House.gov ^ | July 20, 2025 | Macho MAGA Man

Posted on 07/20/2025 11:00:25 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

Under the statute 18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES there are 10 sections, each a separate category of crimes, that are all considered permutations of treason. 2381. Treason. 2382. Misprision of treason. 2383. Rebellion or insurrection.

2384. SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY.

2385. Advocating overthrow of Government. 2386. Registration of certain organizations. 2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally. 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war. 2389. Recruiting for service against United States. 2390. Enlistment to serve against United States.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Politics
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To: nikos1121

Two assassins perhaps? The coverup puts the left in a bad position.


81 posted on 07/20/2025 12:57:59 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

This just a distraction. IMO, nothing will come of it. We know plenty of crimes were committed. Only a handful of federal crimes have a statute of limitations beyond 5 years. Even with conspiracies, the statute ends 5 years after the last overt act to further the conspiracy. Any hope of justice for what amounted to a coup, was lost when Biden “won” in 2020. In fact, that was the reason the Dems pulled out the stops in AZ, GA, PA and MI.


82 posted on 07/20/2025 1:02:33 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: AAABEST

all of what you say is probably true ... but i read all the documents posted by the DNI on dni.gov and there was nothing in them but the fact that obama and co. lied about the contents of the intelligence report they received from their own intelligence agencies ... and there’s no law against lying ... if you’ve seen OTHER DNI.gov documents that PROVE the things you listed, i’d be more than happy to read them ...


83 posted on 07/20/2025 1:11:15 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: WildHighlander57

See unlearner’s post about legal definition of force:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4329762/posts?page=20#20

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thanx WH57. I was busy posting my reply at same time unlearner was posting their reply.

I do agree that unlearner’s post with definition of force is clear concise, easily understood & applies in this case.


84 posted on 07/20/2025 1:14:21 PM PDT by thinden (Buckle Up!)
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To: volare737

Exactly.


85 posted on 07/20/2025 1:15:32 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Will any of them roll over and testify against Obama here?


86 posted on 07/20/2025 1:15:33 PM PDT by desertsolitaire
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Define force. I argue that they did what they did by force. The word doesn’t necessarily describe violence or someone holding a gun to someone’s head.


87 posted on 07/20/2025 1:21:07 PM PDT by Smellin Salt (AT A POLITICAL )
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To: Joann37

I’m not sure about jurisdiction here, but I do fear that if any of this goes before a DC jury, they will never vote to convict.
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I wonder if a military tribunals could be set up to try the treasonous conduct? National security cases should be covered as is terrorism. Both seem like they are comparable and share national security.


88 posted on 07/20/2025 1:26:26 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: catnipman
and there’s no law against lying

But there are laws against falsifying government documents, as well as various forms of misprision.

-PJ

89 posted on 07/20/2025 1:27:14 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: butterdezillion

Make no doubt that these people took action. They didn’t conspire, they took action.


90 posted on 07/20/2025 1:31:15 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121
I wonder if they had anyone high up in the military who at some point was going to step in and part of the plan. Miley perhaps?

I'd be willing to bet that the Chicoms were in the loop.

91 posted on 07/20/2025 1:31:23 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: Lockbox
Re: post 18

I see this a trying to overthrow the government Under Color Of Law.

92 posted on 07/20/2025 1:50:29 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Reily

“Falsifying government documents is against the law.”

indeed ... and they knew that, so they simply orally lied about what was in classified documents, which Presidents do all the time for strategic reasons related to legitimate national security issues, such as foreign enemies ... no falsified documents were released according to the documents posted by the DNI on dni.gov ... what they did was reprehensible, but not illegal, which is SOP for Democrats in general, though a few of the stupider ones step over the line once in a while and become out and out criminals ...


93 posted on 07/20/2025 1:51:30 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: AAABEST
"Also follow up with plenty of lawsuits. Keep them in court until the day they die."

Unlike trying to jail them, yours is a realistic options. Charge them relentlessly, even if the charges are weak. Civil court. Criminal court, whatever. Pile up charges and lawsuits, one on top of the other - a never-ending stream of litigation. If done properly and relentlessly their lawyer fees will utterly destroy them - and in short order too.

Do to them what they did to Mike Flynn, Trump, Bannon, Stone, the J-sixers and many others. Only do it far more severely and do not stop until they are penniless, wrecked, destitute and physically and emotionally broken. Then turn the heat up even further. They deserve nothing less.

94 posted on 07/20/2025 1:54:58 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: PghBaldy; Macho MAGA Man
... conspire to overthrow, put down, OR to destroy by force ...

I believe you've nailed the distinction the OP was asking about.

"Conspire to overthrow" would be the operative phrase in the prosecution of these hounds from hell.

95 posted on 07/20/2025 1:59:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Golden Age of MAGA is upon us!)
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To: nikos1121

I’d leave Obama out of it. Having him involved would just slow the process down and potentially screw the case up, nobody else has the same protections. Let them all go to jail and watch their boy walk free.


96 posted on 07/20/2025 2:16:25 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I do not think Obama can be charged for anything done as POTUS. As POTUS He cannot really be seditious or treasonous as it is his government.

Everyone else is fair game, Including Biden.


97 posted on 07/20/2025 2:28:51 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Execute Order 66....)
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To: nikos1121
From Black’s Law Dictionary 6th Edition

“Force. Power, violence, compulsion, or constraint exerted upon or against a person or thing. Landry v. Daley, D.C.Ill.,280 F Supp. 983, 954. Pose dynamically considered, that is, in motion or in action; constraining power, compulsion; strength directed to an end. Commonly the word occurs in such connections as to show that unlawful or wrongful action is meant; e.g. forced entry.

Power statically considered; that is at rest, or latent, but capable of being called into activity upon occasion for its exercise. Efficacy; legal validity. This is the meaning when we say that a statute or a contract is “in force.” “…

98 posted on 07/20/2025 2:32:30 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Deaf Smith

I think post and from some others here make a great case that these dirt bags can be indicted for seditious conspiracy against the United States.

The words “by force” can be used to refer to any action physical or mental that intends to produce a change.

When the law was written, you changed governments physically. You didn’t have the capability for a cyber attack, which one can argue this was.

In fact, “by force” can surely apply to Cyber attack.


99 posted on 07/20/2025 2:41:54 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I seem to Remember Trump said he won’t
Prosecute a President.
IIRC


100 posted on 07/20/2025 2:48:11 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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