Putin Shows NO SIGN of Wanting Peace

Old School Media ^ | 3/19/25 | Patrick Rooney

[rebuildus]

Everybody knows that President Trump wants to broker a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. But yesterday’s phone conversation between Trump and Putin appears to demonstrate that Vladimir is not serious about peace.

Putin kept Trump waiting over an hour, according to reports, as Putin was addressing the annual congress of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs in Moscow before he laughed off a warning that he was leaving it late for his call to Trump.

During the call, Putin rejected Trump’s proposal for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine, instead agreeing to a 30-day pause in attacks on energy and infrastructure. Yet, just hours after the call, Putin’s forces conducted an airstrike on the energy infrastructure of Slovyansk, a city of 100,000 people in the Donetsk region, according to local reports, leaving part of the city without electricity...

[alexander_busek]

You'll see that Zelensky is being propped up and encouraged to keep fighting by the neocons that use to predominate in America and STILL predominate in Europe.

Putin should be really clever and spoil his fun by withdrawing all of his invading troops and ceasing his rocket-bombing of civilian centers!

Zelensky would then have absolutely no reason to continue fighting!

That'll show him!

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

If I have to pick between the Euro weenies vs. the Russians allied with the North Koreans and Iranians, as it now stands, I’ll go with the Euro weenies every time.

Aww, but Kim Jong Un is such a paragon of virtue! And Ali Khamenei is a true philanthropist and stalwart pacifist!

Seriously: How could any decent human being side with that scum! Let alone ask for their assistance in invading a European country!

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

You must want to be a delusional dunmy like I just mentioned. I never said “NATO” troops. I said NATO.

Which makes your statement virtually unfalsifiable and thus worthless.

Your "a color revolution spurred on by" just doesn't pass muster. Might just as well blame the Knights of Malta or the Daughters of the American Revolution for instigating a regime-change.

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

No NATO, no war.

I'll see your "No NATO," and raise you a "No Russian Federation."

See how inane such a statement is?

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

If the Yemenis get lucky and hit or sink a US carrier—the war will go south to Iran and no one will talk about Ukraine.

If a real conflict erupts with Iran, the U.S. (under President Trump) will respond with devastating force.

The threshold will have been crossed, the "Giant will have been awakened and filled with a terrible resolve" (paraphrasing Yamamoto) and Putin and Kim will be as "shocked and awed" as the mullahs. This would only strengthen the negotiating position of the U.S. regarding Putin's criminal invasion of Europe.

Once the genie is out of the bottle, Trump will have a free hand to do some general "housekeeping" - in Europe, too.

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

Mexico never tried to join any military military pact against United States.

Always with these absurd comparisons with Mexico!

The U.S. and Mexico have had friendly relations for nearly two centuries. (Minor incursions like Vera Cruz in 1914 notwithstanding.)

The United States is a peaceful country with a long-standing love of Democracy. The U.S. had no "designs" on Mexican territory.

Russia, on the other hand...

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

The worst part is all this “Putin bad” nonsense.

Yeah, Putin - and his new "best friends" Kim and Khamenei - are peace-loving democrats!

Russia doesn't have any nuclear-tipped missiles aimed at America's heartland! Iran doesn't call the U.S. "The Great Satan" and call for its destruction! Kim isn't a little tin-pot dictator who has enslaved the entire population of N. Korea and is now threatening other nations with nukes!

Nonsense!

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

A lot of dead Russians to account for, back home. He has to come out with something....

10 grams of lead in the back of Putin's head seems like a reasonable offer!

Regards,

[stig]

If you have not noticed, it is Russia that has invaded a neighboring country, not NATO.

who cares.

The Russians have about a 1/3rd of the territory now. How many more Ukrainians would you like to see dead before you are ready for a peace deal?

It's a peace deal. NOT a lets give Ukraine justice deal.

[alexander_busek]

Yes, because stupid Ukraine did not learn from smart Mexico how to live with a much bigger neighbor.

The same way that "stupid" Poland didn't learn how to live with much bigger neighbors like Germany and the Soviet Union.

If only Poland had done what Hitler and Stalin wanted, they would never have been "forced" to invade and annex it!

Regards,

[Petrosius]

How many more Ukrainians would you like to see dead before you are ready for a peace deal?

This is not up to you or me; it is up to the Ukrainians. As long as they are willing to fight for their freedom we should support them. You are also ignoring Russia's stated war aims. It is not just about NATO expansion or even holding on to the territory that it has already captured. In addition, it includes:

1. Ukraine ceding the rest of the oblasts that Russia has yet captured. This would include the major cities of Kherson and Zaporizhzhi.
2. Reduction of the army to a token force that would be unable to defend itself.
3. Beyond no NATO, no alliances of any kind and no security guarantees in case of further Russian invasions.
4. Imposition of an unelected pro-Russian government. (So much for all that wailing about a coup against the elected president.)
5. Suppression of Ukrainian nationalism. And,
6. Promotion of the Russian language and Russian culture.

These are goals that Putin has not backed down on with his negotiation with Trump. This would reduce Ukraine to a puppet state bound to Russia. It would also only be the precursor to the ultimate goal of reabsorbing Ukraine back into Russia. And do not think that this is just some sort of paranoid fear-mongering. It the foreign policy doctrine that is taught in Russian military academies. Russia has successfully use the animosity of conservatives towards the globalist to hide their objectives behind the mask of "they were provoked by the threat of NATO expansion." Unfortunately, too many people, in their blind rage at the left and the globalists have bought into the lie. If Russia was provoked by anything, it was by NATO weakness which Putin thought would give him an easy victory.

[Bobbyvotes]

Hitler was not same as Putin.
I feel sorry for all to the Ukrainian women here in Florida forced to sell their bodies to survive.

[Bobbyvotes]

Can you tell me what Ukraine has gained by asking NATO membership?

[alexander_busek]

Can you tell me what Ukraine has gained by asking NATO membership?

Irrelevant!

Ukraine can ask to join the Girl Scouts of America, as far as anyone else is concerned. It's none of their business.

Ukraine does not have to ask anyone else's permission to do so.

Regards,

[rebuildus]

Thanks. I don’t trust Putin, Zelenskyy, or almost ANY politician. Even with Trump, I “trust” but verify!

[rebuildus]

Agreed.

[rebuildus]

Very good points.

[Bobbyvotes]

Thousands of Ukrainian dead, millions became refugees, Ukrainian women forced to sell their bodies in foreign lands, residential & commercial buildings destroyed, infra structure destroyed, and that is irrelevant to you? Are you that cold hearted or just have low IQ?

[stig]

As long as they are willing to fight for their freedom we should support them.

They can't fight if we don't pay. This American has had enough of paying for this war. I certainly don't want to pay to rebuild Ukraine.

Since no one wants a cease fire as you say. Let's cut off all American funding and equipment shipments. Let Europe fund and supply if they are so inclined. Then Europe can pay to rebuild what ever is left over in Ukraine.

[Petrosius]

So you are OK with the subjugation of Ukraine by Russia?