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Russia’s Su-57 Stealth Fighter Is Now A Giant Disappointment
National Security Journal ^ | 7/21/2024 | Brent M. Eastwood

Posted on 07/21/2024 8:05:24 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111

Russia’s Su-57 Felon Next-generation Fighter Has Its Wings Clipped: It hasn’t been a good summer for the Russian Air Force, and now the Ukrainians are adding insult to injury. One of Russia’s most vaunted warbirds – the Sukhoi Su-57 Felon – was destroyed by a Ukrainian drone strike in June. The resilient and intrepid Ukrainians have raised the stakes in the war against Russia by using drones in deep attack mode. The destruction of the single-seat twin-engine Su-57 Felon must have created another headache for air force leaders in Moscow because it is one of the jewels in the Russian crown.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: airforce; brentmeastwood; defense; military; russia; soisputin
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

If the Russians actually have any… There weren’t very many of them and I suspect they do not have the capability of building more given that they are dealing with sanctions from the west.


21 posted on 07/21/2024 9:26:24 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Lazamataz
I hate Russia, and I hate Ukraine.

I cannot stand the constant propaganda.

I too hate the constant propaganda. What the constant lies and propaganda from the DC deep state, DNC, and never-Trump RINOs has taught me - not to hate Russia, and not to love Ukraine.

In fact, the USA should apologize to both, on behalf of DC's cabal of filthy neocons, who pushed both sides into war.

22 posted on 07/21/2024 9:26:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Lazamataz

I hate our US politicians more than Russia or Ukraine. The politicians have BORROWED $200,000,000,000 to protect borders of most corrupt country in Europe, Ukraine. The national debt has grown by $200 Billion. Since federal budget is in chronic deficits by Trillions every year, guess who will bear the debt burden? That is right, our children and grand children.

The real bad news is those same politicians will not spend just a few Billions to protect our own borders.


23 posted on 07/21/2024 9:29:21 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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24 posted on 07/21/2024 9:36:05 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Bobbyvotes

“debt burden”

Biden-style inflation can slash the real burden of debt by 30% to 50% with every application.

The people with dollar-denominated savings and pensions are the ones paying the higher prices with every trip to Walmart or Home Depot.

Many houses cost over 50 times more than they did in the 1950s.

Houses cost about seven to ten times as much as when off to college.

My Democratic neighbors with over $100,000/year in indexed government pension income have lost about $10,000/year in buying power because of Biden and his accomplices.


25 posted on 07/21/2024 9:43:39 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: Bobbyvotes

“Building a wall is a red herring”

“No wall is needed to fix this situation. Border Patrol is being instructed to facilitate illegal entry at scale into the United States.”

“The fundamental problem is that anyone can claim asylum with zero proof, which means all of Earth can come to America.”

Elon Musk


26 posted on 07/21/2024 9:44:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: whyilovetexas111

They do kind of cool paint jobs on it.


27 posted on 07/21/2024 10:05:41 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Brian Griffin
“The fundamental problem is that anyone can claim asylum with zero proof, which means all of Earth can come to America.”

Where will we claim asylum ?

28 posted on 07/21/2024 10:09:11 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: whyilovetexas111

This journal is “student edited”.... Woke. They use “disappointing” in many of their articles.

From the last paragraph of the article... The Su-57 could be overrated.

The guy knows nothing about the SU-57 according to the article. What a waste of propoganda use.


29 posted on 07/21/2024 10:09:45 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Lazamataz
You should despise the globalist forces behind the proxy war in Ukraine FAR more than either.

Lindsey Graham and politicians like him are far more of a danger to this country than Russia.

30 posted on 07/21/2024 10:11:18 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: delta7

Pre ww2 older generation escaped the commies in the east during the glorious red revolution commie invasion. My very young grandfather, at the time, escaped the commies, made it to Italy, and got a boat to America.. He joined the US Navy when he was old enough. He was wounded during the attack on Pearl Harbor and served the rest of the war as a Corpsman on the USS Solace.

The ones who stayed were near the Ukraine border and survived the Ukrainian genocide against the Poles. After the war, They, along with countless others who survived the Nazis, Ukrainians, and the Soviets, made it to Hoboken NJ and Chicago where extended family still lives. I only know a few of that generation as my grandfather’s side all moved to California and his relatives stayed on the east coast.

So, like I said, no love for either.


31 posted on 07/21/2024 10:16:23 AM PDT by Organic Panic (SDemocrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Kazan
You should despise the globalist forces behind the proxy war in Ukraine FAR more than either. Lindsey Graham and politicians like him are far more of a danger to this country than Russia.

I offer a compromise: I agree to hate all three entities.


32 posted on 07/21/2024 10:22:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: BobL; whyilovetexas111
So did a lot of pro-Russian accounts. There are accounts that haven't posted in years that ramped up their posting shortly before and soon after Russia invaded, on both sides of the issue.

People join FR when big events happen. It is business as usual here.

33 posted on 07/21/2024 10:27:01 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇸 Trump 2024 🇺🇸)
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To: BobL

What’s also interesting is that the camp I’ve been working from is staffed with Ukrainians here in Alberta. Every single one I’ve talked to has said they blame zelensky (ie the west). I’m over a hundred now between that camp and others I run into in town. 100% say the same thing. Not one varying opinion on that.

Interesting.


34 posted on 07/21/2024 10:38:34 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: McGruff; whyilovetexas111; Lazamataz; delta7
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Interesting, perhaps....

35 posted on 07/21/2024 10:49:49 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Brian Griffin

You missed my main point, which was we have spent MORE THAN 100 TIMES to protect corrupt Ukraine’s border than our own border. You had no comment on that point.

I bought my first new house in 1970. Last new house I bought was in 2019. There is simply no comparison between amenities present in 1970 houses compared to houses of today. That difference must be factored in to compare truthful change in prices.


36 posted on 07/21/2024 11:10:18 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: usurper
I'm sure the Russians are only 'disappointed' at loosing an expensive aircraft.

I think you meant "losing".

37 posted on 07/21/2024 11:23:06 AM PDT by ytrebil
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To: ytrebil
I think you meant "losing".

Damn, the FR spelling police never sleep. LOL

38 posted on 07/21/2024 11:36:25 AM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: whyilovetexas111
Russia is a joke. Why can't Europe deter these guys? Oh, I get it, they don't spend a lot on defense but a lot on their welfare states. Ok...

They are Master Blaster. They've been putting the big dumb guy across the pond in action every time they need him to do Britain's dirty work.

39 posted on 07/21/2024 11:47:04 AM PDT by Stentor ( )
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To: usurper

I agree. It might be interesting to see how the SU-57 does once it gets off the ground.

I suspect better than an Su 27, but F-15? F-22? F-35? Probably some where in that equation.

It should not be underestimated since such a large part of our military doctrine requires air superiority.


40 posted on 07/21/2024 11:54:41 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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