Posted on 07/19/2024 10:00:15 PM PDT by rx
In mapping what the two main counter-sniper positions would have seen as they looked toward Crooks, it became apparent that the counter-snipers closer to Crooks probably were unable to see Crooks because a large tree was in the way.
Too clever, Crooks! Or did you have help to have learned those subtleties? Hence, neither of the two northerly counter-snipers likely liquidated Crooks.
The southerly countersniper position was able to see Crooks AS HE FIRED, but BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE OF THE ROOF (hmmm!), they probably didn't see him until he fired, as Crooks exposed more than his scope's lens.
I suspect the 2nd batch of shots took out Crooks. (See my post just above.) Then the last shots (2) were from the more distant counter-sniper. (Maybe Crooks slumped over the crest of the roof?)
Then that makes Crook’s only shots the 1st group of 3.
However, the damage done by those 3 seems like a lot: Trump’s ear, one dead firefighter, 2 more people seriously injured, and that hydraulic line hit. Granted that the bullet that went through Trump’s ear clearly could injure or kill someone else, and the one that hit the hydraulics could have ricocheted.
It is quite possible the group 2 shooter was an LEO who’d just made it to the window as Crooks set up to fire, or the LEO delayed due to innocents visible downrange, etc.
The issue of how LE near the AGR building knew in plenty of time that a likely assailant with a rifle was on the roof, and word didn’t go back to SS on stage to get Trump to safety, is incomprehensible. Fail safe / redundant comms to SS are a 1st order of SS responsibility.
“The southerly countersniper position was able to see Crooks AS HE FIRED,…”
Bull. You can’t line up a shot without being above the apex to some visible degree.
Yes, it would be my understanding that the first three shots with a consistent signature of .22sec delay (as recorded at the podium) would have been from the secondary shooter, 5 or so much higher pitched shots from Crooks, and the last, late shot from the southerly counter-snipers.
There seem to be signatures from (at least) three different weapons.
The northerly counter-snipers may never have seen Crooks or the 2nd-storey window shooter, so as to fire any shots.
I’m of course open to more and possibly different information, however.
bkmk
If this had been Biden who had been given short fat SS women to protect him those women’s names would be everywhere by now.
Condider this thread, if you would.
ThankQ.
1) Second story window looks like ideal vantage point to me ... incredible this location was left out of the security perimeter.
2) That shed is clearly not high enough to get to the roof without something ... maybe that’s where the 5’ ladder might have come into play but I thought the 5’ ladder was what was purported to have been used to get onto the top of the little shed. I’ve seen spec’s on the shed and am familiar with them; they’re sturdy enough to climb onto briefly etc. but look at the top of the door alongside, that’s 8’ and the roof is much higher ... I think the 10’/12’ ladder on other side is preferable.
Makes sense.
It depends a lot on exactly where this vid was taken as the shots go out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbsFf96VnNc
The new grassy knoll?
Pretty much agreed - the question is, where was the camera in the vid I referred to? Hard to say, as there’s a break in the vid away from the shooter and the camera points @ the stage (~0.43). This looks like a “cut” (camera paused), then after being pointed @ the stage for several seconds the camera swings around wildly and shots begin ~0.57.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbsFf96VnNc
It seems to me the 5’ ladder would have been a two-stage process. First, to get atop the shed from the front—as that’s a scary slope on top of it! (Ha ha.) Secondly, Crooks would have lifted the ladder to climb to the roof with the ladder flattened atop the gray shed, with it facing the building’s side. (The shed top sloping away from the building would have made an open, sideways approach even less stable, IMHO.) His slim frame climbing the flattened ladder to the roof would nonetheless have made it far more readily than my heavier frame.
Cheatle’s slope comment must have originated from use in her presence by someone whose input she trusted. She seems to have wielded that comment as if to sound smart, when she clearly isn’t bright about such things.
I agree the 10’ ladder seems preferable. (Do we know when Crooks bought the 5’ ladder?) Might he have tried it out on an earlier late evening and found it difficult, nigh unto precarious, almost a threat to the plan? That the 10’ is also there—so opportunely—leaves one to question who would have put it there and when. Crooks might have made complaint to a handler, who then saw to its placement “for the big day.”
If Crooks didn’t leave the 5’ ladder in his van, it seems likely he should have preferred to leave it on the roof, rather than on the shed to be seen by others. There was talk of the sheriff department’s people encircling the building after Crooks was pointed out by crowd members.
How could deputies have missed using the 10’ ladder, even so as to afford easily using a sidearm for the reported, rifle-armed, bear-crawling guy on the roof?
I’d think there would have been some civilians near enough to that window to notice shots coming from that direction....
I'm "liking" that the window-shooter would have set up perhaps 10-15' inside the room to hide the report. Nonetheless, his three shots had the supersonic signature and one of the first two--likely the first--hit PDJT. He was the pro and wouldn't have missed, but for God's slightly adjusting PDJT's head angle.
I favor the right side of PDJT's head at the moment he was hit as defining a line that points directly to that window.
A crowd member reported seeing someone with an apparently-tattooed arm moving in that open window.
...and the point of this exercise?
A Crooks trajectory that would’ve hit PDJT’s ear would also have clearly blown away the back part of his brain.
Do we know when in the sequence the hydraulic line was hit? I’m not finding that vid, now.
Similarly, assuming the red-white-and-blue bunting to the Comperatore family’s right has been forensically preserved and if there is a single hole that might account for a bullet causing his wound can be located, it may be possible to prefer Crooks as the killer. Alternately, such a hole could, in theory, narrow the indication toward the presumed second-storey window location.
I imagine it would be in line with a Crooks trajectory, as the person at the second storey window location is surely a pro and would not have spent a stray moment on a shot anywhere except in completion of his assassination mission.
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