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Vantage points of various shooters
Googlemaps | 7/19/2024 | RX

Posted on 07/19/2024 10:00:15 PM PDT by rx

In mapping what the two main counter-sniper positions would have seen as they looked toward Crooks, it became apparent that the counter-snipers closer to Crooks probably were unable to see Crooks because a large tree was in the way.

Too clever, Crooks! Or did you have help to have learned those subtleties? Hence, neither of the two northerly counter-snipers likely liquidated Crooks.

The southerly countersniper position was able to see Crooks AS HE FIRED, but BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE OF THE ROOF (hmmm!), they probably didn't see him until he fired, as Crooks exposed more than his scope's lens.


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The theory is that the first three shots were from a higher-powered gun than that of Crooks, to Crooks' right, either behind him, or possible from a ground floor window in the same building he was on. Crooks Homeland Security Investigator handler (?) probably told him to fire off several rounds as soon as he heard gunfire (from behind or below him). He did as told, the theory goes.


1 posted on 07/19/2024 10:00:15 PM PDT by rx
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I don’t think the tree is far enough to the left in your picture... take a look at the aerial view of the property where it seems that it blocks almost half of the roof that Crooks was on....

https://www.google.ca/maps/search/agr+butler+field+butler+pa/@40.857658,-79.9704938,173m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu


2 posted on 07/19/2024 10:14:37 PM PDT by hecticskeptic ( )
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To: rx

I think this has pretty much been established. Appears the snipers further away from the shooter and an unobstructed view to the suspect.


3 posted on 07/19/2024 10:21:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rx

Seeing the windows of the building makes me think... this entire operation was either so sloppy or so obviously done by someone other than just Crooks that one wonders... was the entire property and immediate area secured after the bullets stopped flying? Were each of those building searched thoroughly immediately after?


4 posted on 07/19/2024 10:23:10 PM PDT by hecticskeptic ( )
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To: rx

Then again who knows. In this case the entire security operation is dumpster fire at best, or it was simply a setup to eliminate Trump once and for all.

It’s been said many times in the past they’ve done everything but assassinate Trump. Here we are.


5 posted on 07/19/2024 10:25:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rx
Nice street view of the nearby water tower.


6 posted on 07/19/2024 10:30:58 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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>> I think this has pretty much been established. Appears the snipers further away from the shooter and an unobstructed view to the suspect.

It’s fine that they’re further away, because they’re, like, professional SNIPERS.

But why the HELL did they wait so long to snipe?

That and other questions are way more important than insignificant details about the field of view of the various sniper teams.


7 posted on 07/19/2024 10:33:49 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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“Secret Service spotted Trump rally shooter on roof 20 minutes before gunfire erupted”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4252197/posts


8 posted on 07/19/2024 10:35:12 PM PDT by Ken H (Trump 2024)
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Also, now they are saying the ladder was not used and earlier ladder theories were false. What about buying one? False, too?

Maybe he spent his money on the drone (which the good guys didn’t even have to watch for creeps like him).


9 posted on 07/19/2024 10:35:30 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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Or Crooks the patsy after being seen by the local policeman who had climbed up over the edge of the roof, realizes he has to take his shot at the President before the officer returns. The real professional assassin in the same building as the 2nd counter snipper team, then has to hurry his shot, but by now Trump is on the ground. The snipper positioned behind Trump shoots the patsy and the professional makes his escape. I have no idea if the angle work out, but this might explain why a second professional shooter failed in his mission.


10 posted on 07/19/2024 10:36:23 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America)
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>> ... they’ve done everything but assassinate Trump. Here we are.

They shot at the king and missed. They did NOT factor missing into their plans. The deep state vermin responsible for this attempted murder now must regroup and make other plans.

Will they try again? I would hope not but I wouldn’t bet against it.


11 posted on 07/19/2024 10:38:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: hecticskeptic
Thanks. It wasn't my placement. They're both reduced from googlemaps, as I understand it. One's an image, another a polygonal nature element reduction.

A doc I watched noted that the southerly counter-sniper position delivering the roughly 15-second-later headshot very strangely had no blood spray to speak of! Forensically, that very likely means Crooks's heart was not pumping at the time. That opens up the strong possibility that Crooks was dead by within about 10 seconds after the first shot, and that the kill shot might not have been a head shot.

What's that flap-like thing on the back of the dead Crooks's neck? When Crooks would ahave been shooting, that area of his upper torso or neck was exposed to that 2nd-floor window behind him. There was apparently heavy blood flow around Crooks's neck, but no big exit-wound spray, as is much more typical, the doc says.

Here's an update.


12 posted on 07/19/2024 10:51:07 PM PDT by rx
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The earlier discussion of a ten-foot ladder confused the situation, I believe. He didn't supposedly use that one.

I understand Crooks bought a five-foot ladder and placed it atop the gray cabinet in the picture below, using it to climb onto that dangerously-sloped roof, then moved to his left and across the connector, to the more southerly AGR International Building (owned by a BlackRock subsidiary and managed by former Pfizer executives).


13 posted on 07/19/2024 10:59:35 PM PDT by rx
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Trump turned his body, head, and eyes to look at the graphic behind him. He can only turn so much and stay comfortable. For his temple and ear to line up with the path of what hit him, a window shooter position as shown is a little more probable than turning even more to line up with the bear crawler's position.

Apparently there was a camera up above in the flag suspension rigging. Maybe that will show Trump's orientation when hit, and therefore point to the origin of that shot.

14 posted on 07/19/2024 11:02:08 PM PDT by Tellurian (Any cleverness from a democrat is quickly invested in deception)
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Were each of those building searched thoroughly immediately after?

You mean... like by the FBI or the gaggle of khaki-clad Homeland Security Investigators? (Ha ha.)

How many years will it be before we see crucial evidence, after they've hidden such things for that long, saying they couldn't release anything because it's been part of an active investigation, despite their claimed lone gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald being dead, along with everyone else on the grassy knoll?

15 posted on 07/19/2024 11:08:01 PM PDT by rx
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To: Tellurian

Very good points!


16 posted on 07/19/2024 11:13:52 PM PDT by rx
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To: \/\/ayne

NOTA BENE: The ladder is opposite where PDJT’s podium was, for maximum shielding from view.


17 posted on 07/19/2024 11:21:25 PM PDT by rx
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Trump was shot from a window behind the patsy

It has a 12ft elevation and unobstructed view


18 posted on 07/20/2024 1:09:42 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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looks to me he had the left side of his head blown off (kill shot entered just above the left eyebrow) and the flap-like thing on his neck was either shattered neck vertebrae or detached scalp skin, given that the round used to kill him would have hit like a mac truck. I’m not buying the ‘no blood spray’ stuff, first of all because his left side is hidden, second his head was close to the roof to begin with, third because some is actually visible on his right from his hairline to his nose and fourth, because his hair is bloodsoaked. A witness exclaimed he saw the hair on the head jerk back as he was hit, so that makes him alive at the time he was hit. He’s obviously drenched in blood, and brain matter (yellow) and blown out teeth are very noticeable.


19 posted on 07/20/2024 2:10:52 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: rx

Somewhere in all the vids, there is one taken a location from near Crook’s position in which the 2nd group of 5(?) shots is MUCH louder than the 1st 3 shots. The 2nd group is also more rapid and has a much different acoustic “signature”.

Where does that location the vid was shot from fit on these images?


20 posted on 07/20/2024 3:24:08 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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