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Thought this was interesting. Add this to Cannon's decision that the jury must be shown the documents in question, not just Smith waving around a manila envelope.
1 posted on 03/19/2024 5:33:34 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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“Article II
....
SECTION 2. The President...may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices...”

Obviously, the President often needs to retain such writings after leaving office since backbiting by underlings is very likely after a President’s term in office ends.


2 posted on 03/19/2024 5:37:47 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Oh no Surrender Monkeys you’d better start accusing Judge Cannon of being a secret plant by Soros - this could get out of hand/s/.


3 posted on 03/19/2024 5:39:29 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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Judge Cannon Is brilliant! She is forcing Jack Smith to either eliminate his case or the jury do it for him. Her hands will be clean.


4 posted on 03/19/2024 5:42:32 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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The funny thing will be if the classified docs they are charging him on are Crossfire Hurricane docs.

If that’s the case, no jury is going to convict a man for retaining documents on his enemies’ illegal behavior.


6 posted on 03/19/2024 5:46:36 AM PDT by struggle
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bttt


7 posted on 03/19/2024 5:47:24 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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The law is quite different for a President vs a VP….


8 posted on 03/19/2024 5:53:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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“unauthorized possession” Why JOe Biden did not do that?

Tick, tick,

the classified documents seized may show that the DOJ, FBI, CIA, HOmeland Security,Pelosi, McConnell and the Washington Capitol police participated in a couter espionage operation designed to culminate in the assassination of President Trump on January 6th. ( The Secret Service giot wind of the plot through the presidents NSA assets and they avoided going to the Capitol with Trump even after they requested it.)

Cannon knows that these assassination proof documents are in the hands of a DOJ approved special master, and she will do all she can to get the to the jury.


9 posted on 03/19/2024 6:01:09 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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If Jack Smith reveals the documents to the Jury, isn’t he GUILTY of Espionage for Illegally disclosing Top Secret Classified Information unless Biden grants him that authority through the Proper Channels???


10 posted on 03/19/2024 6:02:35 AM PDT by eyeamok
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“...explain which official and/or agency determines “unauthorized possession” of a document.”

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I’m confused.
The judge wants to know, or find, which un-elected bureaucrats do (or should) have the power to determine who broke a law?

Isn’t that what judges and juries do?

If it’s not a clear law, then why would this power be given to some desk jockey somewhere?


11 posted on 03/19/2024 6:04:08 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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BTTT


12 posted on 03/19/2024 6:05:39 AM PDT by nopardons
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From the article:

“Keep in mind as she mentions Presidential Records Act—she has not yet ruled on Trump’s motion to dismiss based on protections of the PRA.”

Hopefully another bullet in the gun pointed at Jackov Smith


13 posted on 03/19/2024 6:06:58 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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A president has sole authority under PRA [Presidential Records Act] to categorize records as personal or presidential during his/her presidency. Neither a court nor a jury is permitted to make or review such a categorization decision. Although there is no formal means in the PRA by which a president is to make that categorization, an outgoing president’s decision to excluded what he/she considers to be personal records from presidential records transmitted to the National Archives and Records Administration constitute a president’s categorization of those records under the PRA

How can this case go further with this ruling?

15 posted on 03/19/2024 6:09:26 AM PDT by Petrosius
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‘explain which official and/or agency determines “unauthorized possession” of a document’

They can’t explain, because the ultimate answer is that the President makes that determination, or the President can overrule any of his subordinates who make similar decisions.


16 posted on 03/19/2024 6:12:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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I hate this case, too much banana republic crap for me.


18 posted on 03/19/2024 6:18:11 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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If Smith is waving the documents around in a manila envelope, then they are probably declassified, in which case what’s his case about. Also, does Smith have a clearance?


23 posted on 03/19/2024 6:31:57 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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Julie Kelly on X is one of the best for multiple daily exposure on this.


28 posted on 03/19/2024 6:37:53 AM PDT by KC Burke
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The elephant in the room is whether the elected government (President and Vice President) are answerable to the bureaucracy or whether the bureaucracy is answerable to the elected government.

Even if the Congress specifies procedures for classification and declassification and procedures for clearances, are the President and VP subject to such procedures? Isn't that a violation of the separation of powers? The absurdity is manifest: this would imply the bureaucrats could deny a President a clearance and therefore deny him the ability to know what executive departments nominally under his authority are doing.

Smith has to argue that as soon as Trump left office with docs he just read, he violated the law, something for which there is no precedent and which stinks like selective prosecution.

30 posted on 03/19/2024 7:32:42 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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IMHO. There can be no such “unauthorized possession” in reference to a president or ex president.


34 posted on 03/19/2024 9:56:17 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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We have active precedent, with Hillary’s private server and emails, the Clinton sock drawer, Joe’s stash in seven places, Sandy Burglar’s underpants.


35 posted on 03/19/2024 10:02:18 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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