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1 posted on 01/19/2024 7:22:02 AM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 01/19/2024 7:22:17 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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Given that Obama already violated this, why does the author believe it will be enforced in the future?


4 posted on 01/19/2024 7:31:05 AM PST by G Larry ("XFKAT" We can't keep spelling out "X Formerly Known As Twitter"!)
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Probably technically correct. Will not go anywhere. Let’s not waste our time on this.


5 posted on 01/19/2024 7:31:29 AM PST by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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If it was an issue I’m sure DJT and others woulda brought it up by now.


7 posted on 01/19/2024 7:33:30 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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Bring a valid lawsuit that the Supreme Court will have to eventually hear.


8 posted on 01/19/2024 7:34:23 AM PST by Oystir
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Nikki Haley is

Barack Hussein Obama in a skirt


9 posted on 01/19/2024 7:34:48 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, y bought, they sold ......)
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Kamala’s parents were not citizens when she was born here…..yet not a peep.

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12 posted on 01/19/2024 7:40:58 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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No British subject born Obama?


13 posted on 01/19/2024 7:43:17 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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We are so far from the precepts of the Constitution today that any violation of it is a “meh” moment.


15 posted on 01/19/2024 7:48:09 AM PST by fwdude (.When unarmed Americans are locked up for protesting a stolen election, you know it was stolen.)
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The National Archives should take it out of its nuke proof case and use it as a door mat. It would be more honest.


16 posted on 01/19/2024 7:49:38 AM PST by Theophilus (It's far easier to rig a jury than an electionhe )
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No, The Constitution Does Not Allow Children Born Of Non-Citizens To Become President Of The United States

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What a silly statement. The Constitution has nothing to do with it.


24 posted on 01/19/2024 8:06:39 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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Like Trump said; Haley just doesn’t have what it takes besides ignoring the Constitution. Typical noncitizen. Go with Stefanik, MTG, Lori Lake, Alina Happa.


27 posted on 01/19/2024 8:13:05 AM PST by chopperk (e )
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The Constitution does not give the meaning of “natural born citizen”, so who knows about the eligibility of Nikki and others.


29 posted on 01/19/2024 8:28:07 AM PST by cymbeline
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The Constitution does not define ‘Natural Born Citizen’, so there is not much to go on from that aspect.

The Constitution says this about citizenship:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The phrase ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ rules out citizenship for children of diplomats for example. For almost all others, anyone born on U.S. soil automatically becomes a citizen.

Can anyone cut and paste language from specific judicial decisions that rules out someone like Haley becoming President? Something in black and white?

The whole house of cards relying on vague interpretations of various court rulings stacked on top of each other don’t count for much IMO. Just post some clear court ruling that specifically rules out Haley being eligible.


31 posted on 01/19/2024 8:39:51 AM PST by Roadrunner383 (m)
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What a crock of crap! There is NO DIFFERENCE between a 14th Amendment citizen and a Natural Born Citizen. If Haley, who I think is a warmongering twit, was a citizen at birth, she is eligible.

There was SCOTUS case, Wong Kim Ark, which held that the 14th Amendment was simply the embodiment of older law on natural born citizenship.

This ain’t hard. My BFF explained it in simple English:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/a-place-to-get-the-really-right-answers-about-natural-born-citizenship/


32 posted on 01/19/2024 8:40:12 AM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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Neither George Washington’s nor John Adams’ nor Thomas Jefferson’s nor James Madison’s nor James Monroe’s nor John Q. Adams nor Andy Jackson’s parents were citizens of the United States.


36 posted on 01/19/2024 10:47:57 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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Some here might remember the “sovereign citizen” debates. Thread after thread of endless arguing. Any time some fool tried to assert his “sovereign citizenship” to avoid paying his income taxes he went to jail, whether the judge’s courtroom flag had a gold fringe on it or not. Yet the “experts” assured everyone that sovereign citizenship was sound legal ground. They still went to jail if they didn’t pay their taxes. Or probably ever.

This natural born citizenship issue will achieve no better results. It will take a constitutional amendment to define citizenship. Until then anyone born here can run. No such amendment is getting passed by November 2024.


41 posted on 01/19/2024 11:23:36 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Whether it does or not directly, the SCOTUS has said they do. If you disagree with them, then fix that rather than going bonkers on each individual who comes up whether the principle in place applies or not.


52 posted on 01/19/2024 2:55:41 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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bookmark


53 posted on 01/19/2024 4:00:33 PM PST by Godebert
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