Posted on 12/10/2023 7:40:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Abu Obeida, the masked spokesman for Hamas’ military wing, threatened on Sunday to kill all the remaining hostages taken during the Oct. 7 attacks unless Israel cedes to demands for more aid and prisoner exchanges.
Speaking on a recorded broadcast reviewed by the Times of Israel, Obeida called Israel "fascist" and "arrogant":
Neither the fascist enemy and its arrogant leadership… nor its supporters… can take their prisoners alive without an exchange and negotiation and meeting the demands of the resistance.
Despite the fact that Israel Defense Forces is rapidly gaining ground in Gaza and large numbers of Hamas fighters have been surrendering, the terror leader vowed to continue the fight:
"We have no choice but to fight this barbaric occupier in every neighbourhood, street and alley," he said.
"The enemy's holocaust aims to break the strength of our resistance... but we are fighting on our land in a holy battle."
To give you a feel for what this guy's like, here's video of him trying to troll the IDF by claiming they wear diapers.
BREAKING: HAMAS LEADER ABU OBEDIA SAYS ISRAELI FORCES WEAR DIAPERS
Abu Obeida:
“The IOF is the only army in the world who wears diapers, more specifically pampers.” pic.twitter.com/EkeZdw2RNO— Sulaiman Ahmed (@ShaykhSulaiman) December 10, 2023
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had a different assessment of the status of the war than Obeida, saying Sunday that the conflict will not end well for Hamas:
“I say to the Hamas terrorists: It’s over,” Netanyahu said. “Don’t die for [Hamas leader Yahya] Sinwar. Surrender – now!”
Hostage-taking is evil and defies international law. Unfortunately, however, it’s also a very effective tool against civilized people and allows vastly outnumbered forces to have negotiating power that they otherwise wouldn’t have.
Hamas is even using the bodies of captives who died as a sick negotiating tactic. They have 20 corpses that they are refusing to return to Israel.
Sinwar is well aware of the emotional power of hostages, and taking them was always part of the plan:
Sinwar said that what Israel considers its strength—that most Israelis serve in the army and soldiers hold a special status in society—is a weakness that can be exploited, said Yuval Bitton, who spent time with Sinwar as the former head of the Israel Prison Service’s intelligence division.
The idea proved accurate in 2011 when Sinwar was one of 1,027 Palestinian prisoners freed for a single Israeli soldier.
Now, Sinwar is holding hostage 138 Israelis, including soldiers, and the Hamas leader is betting he can force the release of thousands of Palestinian prisoners and establish a permanent cease-fire. He’s relying on his judgment of Israeli society after two decades studying it in jail, learning Hebrew, watching the local news and getting inside the Israeli psyche.
Hamas knows that most people who aren't terrorists care deeply about their families and are sickened when a loved one is taken captive and will do almost anything to get them freed. It's psychological warfare, and while it may buy them some time in this conflict, it won't win the war. But it's creating agony among the families:
'The Woman in the Hamas Video Is My Daughter'—Heartbreaking Message From Mother of Israeli Hostage
Mom of Hostage Delivers Heart-Wrenching Speech at Pro-Israel Rally, Living in 'Slow-Motion Torment'
Author Alex Berenson points out that pro-Hamas supporters will ignore the group's cruelty:
Death cults gonna death cult.
But I’m sure every Hamas apologist will find a way to justify this.
pic.twitter.com/uEvPCuxb7z— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) December 10, 2023
As protesters take to the streets to applaud Hamas' inhumanity and call for a ceasefire, they keep ignoring an essential fact: a ceasefire could be negotiated very quickly if they would release the hostages and put down their arms. Instead, they want to continue to torture their captives and create more carnage in a war they started and stand little chance of winning.
If Israel had not given in to this type of demand in the past they would not be facing this choice today.
Giving Hamas what they want today only guarantees that they will take hostages again at some point in the future.
...boomb the f*** out of Gaza.
Get rid of the Palestinian chants from the river to the sea, flip the coin, it’s fair play.
Then get rid of the hosts of death to little Satan, death to the big Satan.
Until this is done, the sore called Islam will continue to fester.
The barbaric Islam has no place in the modern, civilized world
Abu Obedia can order the hostages to be killed, but there is slight chance of it being carried out, because those holding the hosytages will trade them for their own lives and freedom.
Nethanyahu needs to pick up the pace even faster.
There are different “goals” for
1. Hamas leadership
2. Hamas ordinary members (in Gaza)
3. Ordinary Gazans who aren’t explicitly anti-Hamas
1. Hamas leadership - their goals are:
1.1. To stop the Arab rapprochement with Israel - this is a success
1.2. To get world attention and opinion on them - this is mixed. They have got more attention, but have turned some moderate pro-P people into anti-P
2. Hamas rank and file - they are Mohammedan — their goal is to get their 72 grapes. They are happy enough with saying goodbye to this life
3. Ordinary gazans - they cheered October 7. Their goal is to procreate with their cousins so that they can overrun the rest of the world —> partial victory
I doubt any of these 3 see themselves as “losing” - only if G is completely restored to Israel will thei see it as a temporary loss
” Any blood of the hostages is on their hands no matter how it comes about.”
Now you are being logical and non-Islamic.
Izla says that if you don’t submit then that means that you are an enemy of Izlam and hence an attacker. Yes, that is their convoluted logic.
The hostages didn’t submit, so were actually attackers
I don’t think the majority are dead. Nor would they be maltreated.
They are useful alive for now.
Israel has not won the PR war. It hasn’t lost it, but it hasn’t won it yet.
I think they have. Calls for a ceasefire have been ignored.
1) Israel has shamed the world into believing that Hamas committed sex atrocities.
2) “From the river to the sea” has been defined as a call for genocide.
Exactly what I would expect from subhuman savage worms.
Israel has better hostages, All of Gaza. Hamas starts killing hostages and Israel reciprocates.
Time for Mossad to start taking out all the Hamas agents and leaders living in London and in Qater and anywhere else the cockroaches hide.
1. The Mohammedan world celebrates those crimes, while the non-m world’s leftists generally don’t believe it (I know, how stupid can people get? The answer is - unbelievably stupid)
2. it always was a call forgenocide. But non-M’s still repeat it.
Israel shoukd tell Ham-Ass they will kill twenty of their people for every dead hostage
They won’t give them the (remains of) the 20 bodies.
Because they butchered them.
Justice would be to send all of Hamas straight to Hell.
“But sadly they are in a position to kill the hostages.”
How many do you think are alive now?
Hamas lies about all things.
Israel will deal with this.
And soon.
My main gut feeling is this that the military operation will end and there will compromise in the future against the interests of the future of Israel.
Why get angry about the war when Washington is manipulating things towards a Moderate outcome in the end?
An emotional distraction goes on as one considers the warfare not ignoring the fact there are hostages.
The endgame is some deal with Saudi Arabia and a sellout of Jews who live in Judea and Samaria.
Be emotional about that if one must because that’s where my emotions are.
The Hamas military wing not going to be walking out of the tunnel system.
And still not a peep from our so called government regarding the status of aour American hostages.
Bibi is doing what he must.
The USA must “but out” this time.
Our State department is our nations own worst enemy.
Not all, but the leadership for sure.
Weenies, with no balls.
I’m not blindly supporting any politician especially those who end up going down the middle of the road.
Saudi Arabia is the spiritual heartland of Al Qaeda of 9/11 yet leaders want to deal with them Joe Biden, Donald Trump and even Bibi.
They all were in that camp before 10/7.
Biden and Bibi touting an impending deal with the Saudis.
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