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Fade Away! US Commercial Real Estate (CRE) Falls To 5% Of Entire S&P 500 Index From 14% In 2008, The Flaw With The 30 Year Fixed-rate Mortgage
Confounded Interest ^ | 11/20/2023 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 11/20/2023 6:55:52 AM PST by Kaiser8408a

Commercial real estate (CRE) is fading away as a component of the S&P 500.

The S&P 500 real estate sector is now just 5% of the entire S&P 500.

Even at the 2008 low, in the worst real estate crisis of all time, this percentage barely dropped below 6%. Meanwhile, demand for commercial real estate (CRE) loans is now at 2008 levels.

Office building prices are down ~30% over the last year and apartments are down ~15%.

Also, Delinquent commercial real estate loans at US banks have hit their highest level in a decade.

The strength of the housing market is masking the weakness of CRE.

Speaking of the housing market, the US is overly dependent on the lopsided 30-year fixed-rate mortgage. Where under inflation and rising rate, the lender (investor) loses. If inflation cools and rates fall, the borrower refinances.

Here is my US House of Representatives testimony of 30 year mortgages. Here is the actual paper by Michael Lea and me.

Another major reason for the FRM’s dominance is government support and regulatory favoritism. The FRM is subsidized through the securitization activities of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae.

One of the lingering questions about government loan modification programs is why borrowers are refinanced into longer-term FRMs rather than less expensive ARMs, such as a 5/1 ARM.

ARMs allow protection for lenders (investors) from inflation and interest rate increases. Consider this another entitlement that elected officials give away and refuse to cut. After all, unfunded entitlements are already at $211.65 TRILLION.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: economy

1 posted on 11/20/2023 6:55:52 AM PST by Kaiser8408a
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To: Kaiser8408a; All

My Real Estate Advice:

Work hard & have a good Employment Record. Get pre-qualified for a 15-year loan at your income level. Buy LESS house than you can afford. Have a BIG cash down-payment. Work like H#ll to pay it off as soon as you can. Sell house. Plow the proceeds into a nicer house. Repeat until retirement.


2 posted on 11/20/2023 7:00:08 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Kaiser8408a

“is why borrowers are refinanced into longer-term FRMs rather than less expensive ARMs, such as a 5/1 ARM“

Because they got sodomized in 2008 with those.


3 posted on 11/20/2023 7:07:03 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
ARMs allow protection for lenders (investors) from inflation and interest rate increases.

The lenders have to caveat emptor as much as the borrowers do. If they don’t play stupid games, they’ll do fine. Most sell the mortgages to very large investors who are hedged in many directions almost immediately.
4 posted on 11/20/2023 7:17:54 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: DesertRhino

Everyone’s situation is different of course.

Personally I avoided adjustable rate mortgages , because you don’t know what the adjustment is going to be a number of years down the road.

Adjustables can make sense for some people. If you get a low initial interest rate that adjusts after 5 years, but you know you’re not going to be in that property for 5 years, then maybe then it would make sense to do the adjustable. Maybe it makes sense if an adjustable is the only mortgage that you can qualify for.


5 posted on 11/20/2023 7:18:14 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
My real estate advice:

1. Buy less house than you can afford.

2. Buy it with a 30-year fixed rate mortgage.

3. If you want to prepay the mortgage, DON'T. Instead, put any excess payments you were considering aside in a mix of investments that is somewhat conservative but has some growth-oriented assets.

4. Refinance the mortgage if rates fall. Enjoy a rare opportunity to screw the bankers/investors if rates rise.

5. Item #3 is critical. Prepaying the mortgage ignores a very important element of personal finance: liquidity. It also works against another important element of personal finance: diversification. If you pre-pay a mortgage, you end up with a huge asset on your hands but you reduce your cash reserves and increase your odds of being in a position where you must sell your home to meet your need for cash in the event of unforeseen circumstances.

Speaking of the housing market, the US is overly dependent on the lopsided 30-year fixed-rate mortgage. Where under inflation and rising rate, the lender (investor) loses. If inflation cools and rates fall, the borrower refinances.

The author is really late to the game on this one. I've been saying it for years. Retail banking is one of the few sectors where the industry gets screwed at the expense of the customer. Under current banking laws in the U.S. there is no such thing as a fixed-rate mortgage. It's only "fixed" for as long as the borrower wants to keep it fixed. The borrower always has the option of refinancing it, but the lender does not.

6 posted on 11/20/2023 7:23:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“My Real Estate Advice:

Work hard & have a good Employment Record. Get pre-qualified for a 15-year loan at your income level. Buy LESS house than you can afford. Have a BIG cash down-payment. Work like H#ll to pay it off as soon as you can. Sell house. Plow the proceeds into a nicer house. Repeat until retirement.”

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^^What She said^^


7 posted on 11/20/2023 8:03:34 AM PST by fatboy (')
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To: Kaiser8408a
Where are the mobs with pitchforks and torches? This guy is basically arguing for the wealthy to be protected from the middle class.

Poor baby bankers. They gave a 3% fixed mortgage to some poor bastard who can just barely afford his mortgage because of rising food, gas, and electricity prices. Now the interest rates are 8% and they can't force that poor homeowner to pay more.

Darn those fixed mortgages!

8 posted on 11/20/2023 8:43:44 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Why would I pay my loan off as soon as I can?

It takes “X” dollars to pay my loan off.

I have “X” dollars in a 5% CD. My loan is a 3% loan.


9 posted on 11/20/2023 9:49:11 AM PST by brianl703
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To: brianl703

There are exceptions to every rule. Being debt free was always the goal for me and allowed me to retire at age 56.

I’ve owned four homes through the years. Not all at the same time; kept fixing them up, paying them off quickly and investing in the next one. This is the toughest market to do that in now, of course. It was easier in the late 80’s when I bought my first house (800 square feet!) through about 2005.

I’ve always made $50K or more on the sale of the houses.

YMMV. It depends on how you want to live your life. :)


10 posted on 11/20/2023 11:55:34 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Alberta's Child

Also good advice. See my Post #10. I explained why I did what I did as far as real estate goes.


11 posted on 11/20/2023 11:57:06 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: brianl703

brian1703 axes a question: “Why would I pay my loan off as soon as I can?”

Answer #1: Because you live paycheck to paycheck and have too much credit card and HELOC debt.

Answer #2: Because you love co-owning your home with a bank.

Answer #3: see answers #1 and #2


12 posted on 11/20/2023 3:00:53 PM PST by fatboy (')
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To: fatboy

Did you miss the part where my loan is a 3% loan and I have enough money to pay it off earning 5% in a CD?

Yes, that’s right, that money is earning MORE than my monthly interest payment on my loan.

Again, why would I pay it off, given that?


13 posted on 11/20/2023 5:21:37 PM PST by brianl703
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To: brianl703

Answer #4: because you are smarter than the average bear.


14 posted on 11/20/2023 8:30:32 PM PST by fatboy (')
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