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This is bull! Al Gore questioned the election against Bush and wasn't indicted. This is a 1st Amendment issue.
1 posted on 06/30/2023 10:03:53 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

WHAT?! A differing view or dissenting view is now criminal?

This is an out of control tyrannical regime in action....


33 posted on 06/30/2023 10:23:44 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good By Ellen)
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What about Hillary and the left, the entire time after Trump was elected in 2016? All they talked about was him being an “illegitimate president”.


34 posted on 06/30/2023 10:24:29 AM PDT by Joann37
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All they have to do is put up the numbers. 81 million for Biden, 77 million for Trump and the total registered voters are around 130 million.


39 posted on 06/30/2023 10:26:22 AM PDT by SkyDancer (My Talents Are So Hidden That Even I Can't Find Them ...)
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Rudy is THE main one who uncovered Hunter’s criminality.

This is communist tactics.


40 posted on 06/30/2023 10:27:29 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Well we already know the Democrat party is the Communist Party so none of this surprises me..the Dem party are sick twisted pieces of crap and the GOP just sits back and does NOTHING


44 posted on 06/30/2023 10:28:52 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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These democrats don’t ever plan on losing another election with this as a precedent.


47 posted on 06/30/2023 10:31:01 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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Jack “Boot” Smith going full fascist, criminalizing speech?


49 posted on 06/30/2023 10:32:07 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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Just say no to fascists


50 posted on 06/30/2023 10:32:13 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Under what legitimate LAW is this being proposed? Since when is questioning the conduct of an election a federal offense? It isn’t, the First Amendment was put in place to stop this banana republic BS from happening.


51 posted on 06/30/2023 10:32:26 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: Macho MAGA Man; riri; Noumenon; Travis McGee

“Just In: Jack Smith and Biden’s DOJ to Indict Rudy Giuliani and Fellow Trump Attorneys for Questioning Stolen 2020 Election”

Look, this is all very simple.

First: There is no “presidential election” in the US Constitution, not the way people usually use the phrase.

Second: The President (and the VP) are chosen by 538 people appointed by 51 political jurisdictions. The Constitution gives 50 sovereign entities jurisdiction over their own appointments, the States unwisely chose in 1960 to grant Congress a co-equal power to appoint 3 electors.

Third: “Questioning” is a crime in dictatorships. It is not a crime in the United States, in fact, it is protected political speech. It would be a crime to assassinate an Elector, or to impede his travel to his State capital to cast his vote.

Fourth: The attempts to “overturn” the “election” of 2020 were marked by incompetence, Constitutional science fiction, buffoonery, and acts verging on fraud. With regard to the patriotic pageant on November 3, each State Legislature was fully empowered to do anything they wanted about appointing Electors. “Alternate Electors” did not exist, could not exist.

Fifth: Congress was within its OWN rights to conduct the enumeration of Electoral votes however it chose to do so.

Of course, charging Rudy and his pack of incompetents with CRIMES over their actions is the behavior of a despot. But lets call a spade a spade: We are governed by a bipartisan cabal of anti-constitional villains who have no intention of allowing self-rule to the people, in fact, they are horrified at the prospect of it, and there is no turning back as long as they occupy our capital.


52 posted on 06/30/2023 10:32:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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The Witch continues to claim that the 2016 election was stolen from her, with Russian help.

It's getting about time for the pitchforks, torches and a peasant uprising.

53 posted on 06/30/2023 10:32:52 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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And dozens more counts against Trump will be coming


55 posted on 06/30/2023 10:33:47 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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Turn off their taxpayer funds


56 posted on 06/30/2023 10:36:18 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Who says they should not be arrested for denying a stolen election?


58 posted on 06/30/2023 10:39:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Well, if McCarthy get act together, there are lots of Biden, DOJ, and FBI to impeach. Fair is fair.


62 posted on 06/30/2023 10:50:10 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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Biden/Obama/DOJ/FBI stole the 2020 election. Period. Wake-up America!
63 posted on 06/30/2023 10:50:26 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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Disturbing full story - and comments — from The Independent:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-giuliani-more-charges-b2366597.html


68 posted on 06/30/2023 10:55:13 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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Thank you for referencing that article Macho MAGA Man.

"Just In: Jack Smith and Biden's DOJ to Indict Rudy Giuliani and Fellow Trump Attorneys for Questioning [??? emphasis added] Stolen 2020 Election"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Regarding questioning an election, it's the constitutional duty of state and federal governments to not only guarantee each state a republican form of government, but also to investigate allegations of vote-counting fraud, evidenced by the Constitution's Article IV, Section 4 and Section 2 of the 14th Amendment respectively, which the states and feds refused to do in 2020 elections imo, wrongly arguing state sovereignty.

Also consider that the corrupt feds have been wrongly ignoring bully political party non-compliance with 12th Amendment electoral vote procedures for the longest time.

Excerpted from 12A:

"The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added], ..."

For example, consider that the states surrendered their power to make politically correct "winner take all" laws for electoral votes when they ratified that amendment imo.

In fact, Justice Joseph Story had later explained that when political parties divide a state's electoral votes, doing so weakens (obviously) a state's electoral votes for each candidate.

"In case of any party divisions in a state, it may neutralize its whole vote [emphasis added], while all the other states give an unbroken electoral vote." —Justice Joseph Story, Article 2, Section 1, Clauses 2 and 3, Commentaries on the Constitution 3, 1833."

After all, a state's federal senators voting yes and no on a given issue likewise neutralizes that state's votes for that issue.

Consider that ordinary qualified citizen voters don't question state "winner take all" laws because they've grown up with this corruption and simply accept that such rules are somehow constitutional.

Also consider that the states have never expressly constitutionally given citizens the power to vote for POTUS like citizens have for members of Congress.

In other words, citizen power to vote for POTUS is arguably an abuse of 10th Amendment state powers, activist states giving voters the wrong impression that they are in control of who is in the Oval Office.

Regarding 2024 elections, it's up to Democratic and Republican patriots to initiate the final stage of Trump 47's second term mission to finish draining the swamp by primarying as many of our beloved state and federal lawmakers and executives as we can.

After all, evidenced by the Senate's passing an unconstitutional gut control bill, lawmakers and executives continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.

In fact, given that one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the unconstitutionally big federal government to dictate domestic policy is to run the Mail Service (most federal domestic policy actually based on stolen state powers), the worst problem that the peacetime country would otherwise be looking at with a new Congress of freshman lawmakers is a delay with mail delivery.

"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"

Trump can endorse candidates that Constitution-savvy patriots recommend as long as candidates are not incumbents, candidates also promising to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments after they win office.

The definition of insanity is reelecting your beloved career state and federal lawmakers and executives over and over again, expecting those same politicians to find remedies for unconstitutional government policies every time.

77 posted on 06/30/2023 11:05:51 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Sue them and the it to the SC.


78 posted on 06/30/2023 11:09:26 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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What’s bull is getting your panties in a bunch over a story that provides zero details.

The wording is intentionally inflammatory and design to evoke a reaction, rather than convey information. It is clear you are reacting.


80 posted on 06/30/2023 11:10:09 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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