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The rebellion in Russia is really happening (Update: Putin calls it treason)
Hot Air ^ | June 24, 2013 | JOHN SEXTON

Posted on 06/24/2023 6:11:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Normally I don’t work this late but there are potentially world-changing events happening tonight. For those that need a quick primer, you can go back and read these four posts for the longer version. This has been building up for months:

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So now let’s catch up on events of the past few hours. Prigozhin’s troops have been fighting with the army in and around the Russian town of Rostov.

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They attacked the headquarters of the defense ministry in Rostov.

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They apparently have taken control of the city.

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Prigozhin’s forces are already headed to Voronezh which is about halfway to Moscow.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: prigozhin; putin; ramzankadyrov; russia; sergeyshoigu; wagner; wagnergroup; yevgenyprigozhin
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To: Magnum44

Bush had the press against him. Biden will get hailed 24/7 by the press.


21 posted on 06/24/2023 6:42:22 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Midwesterner53

> Now is the time for Ukraine to hit Crimea hard… <

That would probably be a major mistake. An attack on “Mother Russia” would turn many anti-Putin Russians into pro-Putin Russians. Rally ‘round the flag, and all that.

And yes, I know Crimea is not part of Mother Russia. But most Russians don’t see it that way.


22 posted on 06/24/2023 6:42:29 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: marktwain

Putin has wisely not used tactical nukes on the Ukraine as this could lead to a nuclear war nobody wants. However, the Wagner group marching toward Moscow is entirely different. This truly is an internal matter of Russia. Putin might use nukes on Wagner?


23 posted on 06/24/2023 6:42:37 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, consultant, pilot, almost chemist, pharmacist)
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To: Timber Rattler
Putin's Chechens are on their way to Rostov to fight Wagner. The fighting could start in 2 hours.


24 posted on 06/24/2023 6:44:21 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Justa

The Ukes have merely punched through the weak front line which serves more as a recon force. Behind that are the real hardened Russian defenses. The Ukes haven’t been able to punch through that.


25 posted on 06/24/2023 6:45:14 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969

So what’s new? Events in Russia don’t change our leftist MSM


26 posted on 06/24/2023 6:45:31 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: cpdiii
Putin might use nukes on Wagner?

Maybe. I have wondered about that. He may not have the ability to do so.

It would have to be tactical nukes. Who controls them, and are there any available for his use, in the right place?

He has air assets available, and they probably have some tactical nukes. But nuking Russians on Russian soil seems pretty risky...

27 posted on 06/24/2023 6:46:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marcusmaximus

Putin was getting uncomfortable with how things were going, and demanded the mercenary groups sign contracts binding them to Russian. The Chechens did, and Wagner refused.


28 posted on 06/24/2023 6:46:44 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969
For all I know the west may have bombed the Wagner forces to increase the conflict.

Crazy


29 posted on 06/24/2023 6:46:56 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Fido969

Get stuffed, Glowie.


30 posted on 06/24/2023 6:47:17 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Fido969
if Putin is overthrown Biden will seem like a genius

Perhaps, but that depends on Putin being over thrown and just who replaces Putin. Putin makes a lot of the other Russians look like a moderate Democrat.

31 posted on 06/24/2023 6:47:46 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: jimwatx

32 posted on 06/24/2023 6:47:55 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: marcusmaximus

War Monitor
@WarMonitors
⚡️Russian airforce targeting a convoy of Wagner equipment on the M-4 highway in Voronezh region this morning
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1672554846807834625


33 posted on 06/24/2023 6:48:24 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL!


34 posted on 06/24/2023 6:49:03 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Fido969
In any case, you can bet the American intelligence community was up to their eyeballs in the thing.

...what's the flight time for a sub-launched Russian ICBM from just off the East Coast, again?

35 posted on 06/24/2023 6:49:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: AnglePark; Brellium

“The pro-Putin propaganda club...”

They don’t know who their boss will be on Monday.

It would be awkward spending the weekend attacking Wagner if Putin is currently loading a plane with his billions and thinking of a flight to Cuba.


36 posted on 06/24/2023 6:49:50 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: Fido969

“If Putin is overthrown Biden will seem like a genius and there will be no stopping him in 2024.”

A civil war in Russia with thousands of loose nukes would be the largest global crisis since WWII.

At that point even the most bedrock Dem will realize it is not the time for a senile old man to be in charge.


37 posted on 06/24/2023 6:52:00 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: grey_whiskers; jimwatx; Fido969

38 posted on 06/24/2023 6:53:12 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Dems loot & riot -called "protesting" by media. Repub's protest -called "looting & rioting" by media)
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To: marktwain

If I were the Ukrainians I would regroup and see how this plays out because the biggest threat to Putin has always been his “inner circle”.

If the Chef has convinced his military that Putin and the Russian General Staff intends to kill them or incarcerate them again they will be quite motivated and if that was NOT the perception before it is now because they killed a bunch of them with an artillery strike.

If we believe the media coverage.....


39 posted on 06/24/2023 6:54:39 AM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: marktwain
At this point the Russian MOD southern district headquarters is under Wagner control. At this point Wagner may have access to any tactical nuclear weapons in the area.

The use of nuclear weapons inside Russia is unlikely. Nobody in Moscow is going to nuke one of their own cities, or risk further alienating Russian military members who are thinking about which side they want to be on.

40 posted on 06/24/2023 6:56:38 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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